Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the rad
that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here done any
bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S

Spamlet wrote:
Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the rad
that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here done any
bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S


friends had one bent round a bay window like yours, a normal sheet metal
workshop did it, not sure of the price but all they needed was the
radius of the bend allowing for the brackets
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Spamlet wrote:

Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing
the rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has
anyone here done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S

The only radiatior I ever bent was one which I folded in half to take to the
scrappy. But I did cut through the top and bottom tanks with an angle
grinder first, to make it easier to fold - so wouldn't recommend that in
your case! g

Have you considered using 3 short straight radiators, joined with short
lengths of bent pipe? You can go straight from one to the next without any
intermediate valves. Even better if they have top and bottom tappings - then
you can fit two pipes between each pair.
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"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the
rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here
done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S


Pray do tell how you think you might be able to bend a rad? unless you have
a steel press somewere in the house?

Bending a rad is a no no and even if you did manage a bending teqnique it'll
close the waterways of the internal skirt.

Thats why they make rads for bay window areas.

However all is not lost ie 2 single rads on the outer bay walls can suffice
or even 3 singles,one on each wall.

George wrote:
"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the
rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here
done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S


Pray do tell how you think you might be able to bend a rad? unless you have
a steel press somewere in the house?

Bending a rad is a no no and even if you did manage a bending teqnique it'll
close the waterways of the internal skirt.


it can be done but you need more than your knee :-)
Thats why they make rads for bay window areas.

However all is not lost ie 2 single rads on the outer bay walls can suffice
or even 3 singles,one on each wall.




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Reply address works

"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the
rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here
done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S



I had one bent couple of years ago for curved bay, approx 8' rad. Template
from roll of lining paper, local firm bent rad, and resprayed it, back in
couple of days, Firm in n london area. Cost abt £50. perfect job. Try
google - bending radiators.

Alho

"George" wrote in message
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"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the
rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here
done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S


Pray do tell how you think you might be able to bend a rad?

I'd expect a three-roll bending machine to work for gentle radii; something
most sheet metal workshops will have.

Colin Bignell

In article ,
Spamlet wrote:
I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the
rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here
done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

You go to a specialist radiator bender - it's not so expensive as you
might think. Bending anything hollow tends to be a pretty special task to
make a neat job of.

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"George" wrote in message
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"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the
rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here
done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S

Pray do tell how you think you might be able to bend a rad?

I'd expect a three-roll bending machine to work for gentle radii; something
most sheet metal workshops will have.

Colin Bignell



http://www.radiatorfactory.net/quotation.php


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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:07:08 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Plowman
(News)" wrote this:-

You go to a specialist radiator bender - it's not so expensive as you
might think. Bending anything hollow tends to be a pretty special task to
make a neat job of.

Indeed. I have been in houses with curved and angled radiators in
bay windows, they look far better than some standard radiator(s)
bodged into position.

The angled radiator was a double one and looked, from above, like:


---------------------------
/ \
/ \


It was a neat piece of work. While one could see the joins they had
been done very well and the joins were only visible on close
inspection.



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"George" wrote in message
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"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the
rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here
done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S


Pray do tell how you think you might be able to bend a rad?

I'd expect a three-roll bending machine to work for gentle radii;
something most sheet metal workshops will have.

Colin Bignell


Of course but how any people do you know with one in their home? ie he's
asking anyone done any bending of them on here

Gerald wrote:
"nightjar .me.uk" cpb@insert my surname here wrote in message
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"George" wrote in message
om...
"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the
rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here
done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S

Pray do tell how you think you might be able to bend a rad?
I'd expect a three-roll bending machine to work for gentle radii;
something most sheet metal workshops will have.

Colin Bignell


Of course but how any people do you know with one in their home? ie he's
asking anyone done any bending of them on here


I have seen it done by a proper metal workshop I don't believe any one
on here could do it at home

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I have seen it done by a proper metal workshop I don't believe any one on
here could do it at home

I expect there are a few that could bend a single rad, not so many that
could do a double.

"George" wrote in message
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"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the
rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here
done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S


Pray do tell how you think you might be able to bend a rad? unless you
have
a steel press somewere in the house?

Bending a rad is a no no and even if you did manage a bending teqnique
it'll
close the waterways of the internal skirt.

Thats why they make rads for bay window areas.

However all is not lost ie 2 single rads on the outer bay walls can
suffice or even 3 singles,one on each wall.


Horrible!

My mum has just had a perfectly good bent one replaced with individuals just
because they were 'getting old'. Thankfully the nasty new ones are behind
her dresser!

I wish she had told me she was getting rid of the other one!

S

"Kevin" wrote in message
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George wrote:
"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the
rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here
done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S


Pray do tell how you think you might be able to bend a rad? unless you
have
a steel press somewere in the house?

Bending a rad is a no no and even if you did manage a bending teqnique
it'll
close the waterways of the internal skirt.


it can be done but you need more than your knee :-)
Thats why they make rads for bay window areas.

However all is not lost ie 2 single rads on the outer bay walls can
suffice or even 3 singles,one on each wall.
--
Kevin R

I was thinking in terms of jacks and fence post braces - a combination which
I have found numerous uses for. I was just wondering what the leak tendency
might be as a result of the bending - are the seams good enough?

Cheers,

S

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nightjar cpb@ wrote:
"George" wrote in message
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"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing
the rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone
here done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S

Pray do tell how you think you might be able to bend a rad?

I'd expect a three-roll bending machine to work for gentle radii;
something most sheet metal workshops will have.

Colin Bignell

http://www.radiatorfactory.net/quotation.php


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Kevin R


Cheers for the link.
S

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"George" wrote in message
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"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing
the rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone
here done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S

Pray do tell how you think you might be able to bend a rad?
I'd expect a three-roll bending machine to work for gentle radii;
something most sheet metal workshops will have.

Colin Bignell


Of course but how any people do you know with one in their home? ie he's
asking anyone done any bending of them on here
I have seen it done by a proper metal workshop I don't believe any one on
here could do it at home

--
Kevin R

Oh I'm pretty sure I could bend a single one, especially as this one won't
be very tall - they don't make them like they used to! Just interested in
leaks.

S

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"Spamlet" wrote in message
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Reminded by the rad speak below,

I'd like to free up a wall for placing a settee against, by changing the
rad that is there for a curved one under a bay window. Has anyone here
done any bending of rads; and do they have any tips?

Cheers,

S



I had one bent couple of years ago for curved bay, approx 8' rad. Template
from roll of lining paper, local firm bent rad, and resprayed it, back in
couple of days, Firm in n london area. Cost abt £50. perfect job. Try
google - bending radiators.

Alho

Cheers, for template idea.

S

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:51:24 +0100, "Spamlet"
wrote:


it can be done but you need more than your knee :-)
Thats why they make rads for bay window areas.

However all is not lost ie 2 single rads on the outer bay walls can
suffice or even 3 singles,one on each wall.
--
Kevin R

I was thinking in terms of jacks and fence post braces - a combination which
I have found numerous uses for. I was just wondering what the leak tendency
might be as a result of the bending - are the seams good enough?


To be honest I'd be more concerned about creasing it.

Though l leaking is also a possibility. I don't know how you could
forecast that - too many variables.

Derek

In article ,
Spamlet wrote:
I was thinking in terms of jacks and fence post braces - a combination
which I have found numerous uses for. I was just wondering what the
leak tendency might be as a result of the bending - are the seams good
enough?

Radiators are hollow - at least in places. To let the water circulate,
Bend anything hollow like this and it collapses. Unless you have
specialist bending equipment. Same principle as bending pipe. It *might*
be possible with some rads to cut them then weld - which I suppose could
be done at home.

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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:39:31 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

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I have seen it done by a proper metal workshop I don't believe any one
on here could do it at home

I expect there are a few that could bend a single rad, not so many that
could do a double.

Apparently the double ones are split, bent and rewelded back together
again.


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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:39:31 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

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I have seen it done by a proper metal workshop I don't believe any one
on here could do it at home

I expect there are a few that could bend a single rad, not so many that
could do a double.

Apparently the double ones are split, bent and rewelded back together
again.

That's what I thought.
Damn hard welding stuff that thin.
I haven't done anything with stuff like that for 35 years and that was a
car.

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:51:24 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:


Apparently the double ones are split, bent and rewelded back together
again.

That's what I thought.
Damn hard welding stuff that thin.
I haven't done anything with stuff like that for 35 years and that was a
car.

Erm, I took it that Ed meant that a double radiator was seperated into
2 x singles. Not that single radiators are separated into 2 x skins.

ICBW.

Derek

"Derek Geldard" wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:51:24 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:


Apparently the double ones are split, bent and rewelded back together
again.

That's what I thought.
Damn hard welding stuff that thin.
I haven't done anything with stuff like that for 35 years and that was a
car.

Erm, I took it that Ed meant that a double radiator was seperated into
2 x singles. Not that single radiators are separated into 2 x skins.

That is what he said.
I never mentioned separating the skins.
However you would have to re-weld the couplings and they are thick steel to
very thin steel which I believe can be rather hard.
Its easy in the factory when you can put a couple of thousands of amps
through a resistance welder but not with the more common DIY welder.

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:02:11 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

Erm, I took it that Ed meant that a double radiator was seperated into
2 x singles. Not that single radiators are separated into 2 x skins.

That is what he said.

He said:

"Apparently the double ones are split, bent and rewelded back together
again."

A tad ambiguous that.

I never mentioned separating the skins.

It was your mention of "Thin" you see ...

However you would have to re-weld the couplings and they are thick steel to
very thin steel which I believe can be rather hard.

Don't have any doubles here ATM but FWIR they are like 2 singles
coupled together with thickish metal struts about 60 cms long.

Wouldn't they just cut through these and re-join them afterwards. ?

IGWS they'd have to be able to get them through the bending machine,
but could that not be achieved without being able to avoid having to
weld directly onto the thin skin of the 2 single radiators that made
up the double ?

Its easy in the factory when you can put a couple of thousands of amps
through a resistance welder but not with the more common DIY welder.

And probably before the 2 skins are assembled to form a single panel
radiator, itself destined to be married with another to make a double.

BICBW

Derek

"Derek Geldard" wrote in message
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And probably before the 2 skins are assembled to form a single panel
radiator, itself destined to be married with another to make a double.

Not on the ones I was watching being welded.
Two singles, push in the joining pipes, put a few thousands amps through,
welded, takes a three or four seconds.