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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"

Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's

And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
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(I gave up at that point)

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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!

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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"

Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's

And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
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Why would you want to boggle a mine? :-)

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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"

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"mine" not mind? Very DIY U R!!

Go away please!
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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!

NT


I NOW live here, you lot post crap!

And I can eat you all ( DIY).

No problem!

A gift link it was?
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I feel you want more, comming up (as dick breath would
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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"


Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's


And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the
end of a pencil.


(I gave up at that point)


You missed a good one: 'for security screws drill out the cross after
driving'. You'll need quite a drill for modern wood screws...

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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"
Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the
end of a pencil.
(I gave up at that point)


You missed a good one: 'for security screws drill out the cross after
driving'. You'll need quite a drill for modern wood screws...

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Clever? You think?

Hang around you will I'm sure.

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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"

Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's

And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.

(I gave up at that point)

tim


To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.

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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"
Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's
And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the
end of a pencil.
(I gave up at that point)


You missed a good one: 'for security screws drill out the cross after
driving'. You'll need quite a drill for modern wood screws...

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An example, ever tried dry-wall screws? Does it not LOOK like a cross
from above once home??

AND if you drilled off the cross - would it be impossible to remove?

Hence, cheap security (screw)?

You can go away also!

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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!


NT


I NOW live here, you lot post crap!


And I can eat you all ( DIY).


Wishful thinking.
And as to the "drilling of screw heads", this is as old as Barry
Bucknell. You can also guarantee that minutes after drilling, you will
want to remove the screws yourself.


Then wy drill? However......

Please let:-

Dave Plowman (News)

Know?
Ta.

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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!


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I NOW live here, you lot post crap!


And I can eat you all ( DIY).


Wishful thinking.
And as to the "drilling of screw heads", this is as old as Barry
Bucknell. You can also guarantee that minutes after drilling, you will
want to remove the screws yourself.


If you wish to remove a screw 'with no head', what you do?

I of course know, and for you lot to work out and probably tell the
World (nice one)? GOOD move I say!

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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!


NT


I NOW live here, you lot post crap!


And I can eat you all ( DIY).


Wishful thinking.
And as to the "drilling of screw heads", this is as old as Barry
Bucknell. You can also guarantee that minutes after drilling, you will
want to remove the screws yourself.


If you wish to remove a screw 'with no head', what you do?

I of course know, and for you lot to work out and probably tell the
World (nice one)? GOOD move I say!

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Here's our take on it:
http://www.wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index...._Damaged_Screw


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Pencil Saver
Wrap a piece of soldering wire around the un-sharpened end


whats that meant to do?


Divide Any Flat Material Into Equal Amounts
Turn rule at an angle across stock and tick off where required


what do you mean?

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And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.


To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.


Simpler answers:

chewing the pencil - just don't do it
finding solder - it's where you left it

Most people don't have any problem with those things, AFAIK.

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What's a: "metel 'G' cramp"

Why is there an apostrophe in: Alway's

And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.

(I gave up at that point)


Well, the one thing that 'BrainsHere' can be certain about is that he won't
ever be taken seriously. He can also be pretty certain that he'll quickly
finish up in quite a few KFs.

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You missed a good one: 'for security screws drill out the cross after
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AND if you drilled off the cross - would it be impossible to remove?

Hence, cheap security (screw)?..


The point being made is that many modern screws are made from hardened
steel, which will destroy the drill tip first.

Colin Bignell.


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You missed a good one: 'for security screws drill out the cross after
driving'. You'll need quite a drill for modern wood screws...

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AND if you drilled off the cross - would it be impossible to remove?

Hence, cheap security (screw)?..


The point being made is that many modern screws are made from hardened
steel, which will destroy the drill tip first.


Indeed. Should have been obvious to lack of brains if he'd ever tried any
of his 'tips'.

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You missed a good one: 'for security screws drill out the cross after
driving'. You'll need quite a drill for modern wood screws...

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AND if you drilled off the cross - would it be impossible to remove?

Hence, cheap security (screw)?..


The point being made is that many modern screws are made from hardened
steel, which will destroy the drill tip first.


Funny you should say that, I was mounting a hose reel a couple of days ago,
screws supplied. Th'only problem was they seemed to be made of an aluminium
alloy. Quickly replaced with decent screws once one of them started to turn
out.......


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On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:10:36 -0700, BrainsHere wrote:

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Some useful stuff, some I'm sure as old as the hills, and some ******** :-)

"Plumber's Always Use Grips To Tighten Compression Fittings
Show me one with a proper fitting spanner, 15/16" for the 15mm"

A fixed-size spanner for compression nuts doesn't work because not all
compresssion nuts are the same size. I use a good-quality adjustable
(Bahco). I hardly ever use grips. But would you expect a carpenter and
joiner (however skilled) to be an authority on plumbing? :-)

I'm not sure 'As featured in PRIMA magazine" is the highest recommendation
I would aim for for a trade and skilled-DIYer-orineted website, and if I
were wanting the website to promote my business I'd get the spelling,
punctuation and capitalisation right. But then I don't know what a
tradesperson's website is doing under a hotel site anyway.

However if I were in the area and market for Mr Brains' services his
intemperate responses to regular uk.d-i-yers who've obviously bothered to
read and respond to his post and web page would make be decide against it
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And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.


To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.


Simpler answers:

chewing the pencil - just don't do it
finding solder - it's where you left it

Most people don't have any problem with those things, AFAIK.


That's odd, I thought pencil-chewing was incredibly common - so much
so that it forms a colloquial expression for a difficult problem.

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And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the
end of
a pencil.

To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.


Simpler answers:

chewing the pencil - just don't do it
finding solder - it's where you left it

Most people don't have any problem with those things, AFAIK.


That's odd, I thought pencil-chewing was incredibly common - so much
so that it forms a colloquial expression for a difficult problem.


I think the idea is to stop it rolling off the bench and breaking.
One of those little plastic animals is better.

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And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.

To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.


Simpler answers:

chewing the pencil - just don't do it
finding solder - it's where you left it

Most people don't have any problem with those things, AFAIK.


That's odd, I thought pencil-chewing was incredibly common - so much
so that it forms a colloquial expression for a difficult problem.


If you say so... first I've heard of it (the popularity of the habit,
and the colloquial expression, whatever it is).

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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!


NT


I NOW live here, you lot post crap!


And I can eat you all ( DIY).


Wishful thinking.
And as to the "drilling of screw heads", this is as old as Barry
Bucknell. You can also guarantee that minutes after drilling, you will
want to remove the screws yourself.


If you wish to remove a screw 'with no head', what you do?
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Divide Any Flat Material Into Equal Amounts
Turn rule at an angle across stock and tick off where required


what do you mean?


Its actually quite a useful technique, but you would be forgiven for not
understanding what was meant from the rather cryptic explanation given
there.

Say you want to divide a 10" board into three equal segments. Rather
than work out 10/3 and then mark off 3.3" sections, you pick some nice
round number points on your tape *- say 4, 8, & 12". Now measure
diagonally across the board such that the start of the tape is on one
edge, and the 12" point is on the other edge. Your 4" and 8" markings
will now be indicating *the exact thirds points.

In technical terms you are simply marking points on the hypotenuse
rather than the straight across line, the points will be in the same
position across the board, but you get to choose the length of the
hypotenuse by varying the angle, and hence can pick easy to divide numbers.



Ahh ty - neat idea.

I thought the suggestion to sew through emery board an especially bad
one. Not only would it shag the needle it would also soon shag the
machine.

Brain shere did have some good ideas among that lot, and if s/he gets
a bit more realistic could be a valuable contributor.


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And the mine boggles as to why I might want to wrap solder around the end of
a pencil.


To stop you from chewing it.
Plus, you always know where you can find a bit of solder when you need
it.


Simpler answers:

chewing the pencil - just don't do it
finding solder - it's where you left it

Most people don't have any problem with those things, AFAIK.

He could be getting mixed up with the way that some people coil solder
around a pencil and then feed the end through the middle



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And as to the "drilling of screw heads", this is as old as Barry
Bucknell. You can also guarantee that minutes after drilling, you will
want to remove the screws yourself.


If you wish to remove a screw 'with no head', what you do?
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drill out the rest of the head


Yes. The idea of making a security screw by drilling out the cross head is
stupid. All a thief needs to do is carry on drilling and remove the lock
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Unique? wonder why no-one else is suggesting them!

NT


Possibly because some of us have more than half a brain.

Anyone else shocked at some of the potentially dangerous suggestions...
(G-cramps instead of spanner, using an incorrectly sized spanner and a
coin shim, using an inappropriate sole-plate from an iron as an anvil,
scraper fashioned from a bulldog clip and a razor blade)

Maybe these are all ideas that we would consider in the safety and
privacy of our own homes, but to publish these (in that last bastion of
DIY literature, "Primacy magazine", no less) is asking for trouble.

Most of the other ideas are either plain daft, too specific, too obvious
or impracticable.

Hopefully Brainshere will get bored and bugger off elsewhere. Or read
the more useful and intelligent information generally on uk.d-i-y and
get a clue.
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DIY literature, "Primacy magazine", no less) is asking for trouble.


*"Prima"... my bad... spent all morning looking for tyres (Michelin),
hence brain-fade.


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Brain shere did have some good ideas among that lot, and if s/he gets
a bit more realistic could be a valuable contributor.

But was the list home grown, or simply a list they happened
across somewhere?


They're certainly not all original thought as I've read several elsewhere.
The quality of the prose and grammar suggests not just cut and paste
though. ;-)


Indeed. See he

http://gmrowland.com/general-diy-tips.htm

Seems to be TMH ain't the only one to get people ripping off his web
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I expect it was a collection of "stuff" to improve the search rankings
of his web site. He spammed it out to a few unrelated groups the other day.

Characteristically they usually hit and run after making some noise.


He has just appeared in uk.rec.gardening with the same crap.

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I read 'as featured in Prima magazine (October 2003)' as meaning that
was the source, rather than being an accolade for the site. The tips
certainly have the feel of things submitted by magazine readers.


You'd have hoped a magazine might have a proof reader though?

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