I am trying to put up some fittings in the bathroom. It came with wall plugs
and screws but as I have a house made of plasterboard I have bought some
medium strength plasterboard screws. They are the thick fat type that screw
into the pb you then put a screw into the centre of it, like this
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/P..._3/FXPBS35.JPG

Thing is the first one went in no trouble, the second one just kept spinning
around it would not and could not get a grip. Can anyone help me here
please.

Thanks sam

"Samantha Booth" wrote in message
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I am trying to put up some fittings in the bathroom. It came with wall
plugs
and screws but as I have a house made of plasterboard I have bought some
medium strength plasterboard screws. They are the thick fat type that
screw
into the pb you then put a screw into the centre of it, like this
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/P..._3/FXPBS35.JPG

Thing is the first one went in no trouble, the second one just kept
spinning
around it would not and could not get a grip. Can anyone help me here
please.

Thanks sam



Got any no-nails Sammy? squeeze a load into the hole and a load round the
screw insert then shove it into the hole and leave to set for 24 hours.

"George" wrote in message
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"Samantha Booth" wrote in message
...
I am trying to put up some fittings in the bathroom. It came with wall
plugs
and screws but as I have a house made of plasterboard I have bought some
medium strength plasterboard screws. They are the thick fat type that
screw
into the pb you then put a screw into the centre of it, like this
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/P..._3/FXPBS35.JPG

Thing is the first one went in no trouble, the second one just kept
spinning
around it would not and could not get a grip. Can anyone help me here
please.

Thanks sam



Got any no-nails Sammy? squeeze a load into the hole and a load round the
screw insert then shove it into the hole and leave to set for 24 hours.




I have George I will give it a try. THANKS again George you're a lifesaver.

Samantha Booth wrote:

I am trying to put up some fittings in the bathroom. It came with wall plugs
and screws but as I have a house made of plasterboard I have bought some
medium strength plasterboard screws. They are the thick fat type that screw
into the pb you then put a screw into the centre of it, like this
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/P..._3/FXPBS35.JPG

They are crap.
The only ones I have found to be stable are the type that you push in
after drilling a hole, then screw a set screw in, which expands the back
out in 4 sections.Re-usable and strong.
Screwfix and most other DIY places sell them:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/18266/...s/Hollow-Wall-
Anchor-5-x-43mm-6-13mm-Pack-of-10

Alan.
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Samantha Booth wrote:
I am trying to put up some fittings in the bathroom. It came with
wall plugs and screws but as I have a house made of plasterboard I
have bought some medium strength plasterboard screws. They are the
thick fat type that screw into the pb you then put a screw into the
centre of it, like this
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/P..._3/FXPBS35.JPG
Thing is the first one went in no trouble, the second one just kept
spinning around it would not and could not get a grip. Can anyone
help me here please.

Hi Sam

I use these all the time and occasionally get the same problem.

If its a plasterboard partition wall, e.g completely hollow (internal) and
you pre drill a 6mm hole in the pb then they are 100% successful. The pilot
hole is essential IME.

If its an external pb covered wall its likely to be dot & dab so you may
well have blockwork behind the pb with a small gap. What happens in this
case is that the point of the fixing hits the block & stops the fixing
getting a grip on the pb.

For internal pb walls I use Fischer Universal Plugs
https://www.screwfix.com/prods/72709...mm-Pack-of-100

Or Rawlplug Uno Plugs
https://www.screwfix.com/prods/89492...5mm-Pack-of-96

These will work in literally any wall whatever the construction. I getting
to prefer the Rawlplugs.

Get a Bosch Multi Material drill bit 150mm long & drill in the length of the
plug + about 20%

https://www.screwfix.com/prods/43875...-Bit-6-x-150mm

This is now my standard external wall technique & I've never had a problem.

I use the self drilling anchors you mention only on internal hollow walls.

HTH


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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Samantha Booth wrote:
I am trying to put up some fittings in the bathroom. It came with
wall plugs and screws but as I have a house made of plasterboard I
have bought some medium strength plasterboard screws. They are the
thick fat type that screw into the pb you then put a screw into the
centre of it, like this
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/P..._3/FXPBS35.JPG
Thing is the first one went in no trouble, the second one just kept
spinning around it would not and could not get a grip. Can anyone
help me here please.

Hi Sam

I use these all the time and occasionally get the same problem.

If its a plasterboard partition wall, e.g completely hollow (internal) and
you pre drill a 6mm hole in the pb then they are 100% successful. The pilot
hole is essential IME.

If its an external pb covered wall its likely to be dot & dab so you may
well have blockwork behind the pb with a small gap. What happens in this
case is that the point of the fixing hits the block & stops the fixing
getting a grip on the pb.

For internal pb walls I use Fischer Universal Plugs
https://www.screwfix.com/prods/72709...mm-Pack-of-100

Or Rawlplug Uno Plugs
https://www.screwfix.com/prods/89492...5mm-Pack-of-96

These will work in literally any wall whatever the construction. I getting
to prefer the Rawlplugs.

Get a Bosch Multi Material drill bit 150mm long & drill in the length of the
plug + about 20%

https://www.screwfix.com/prods/43875...-Bit-6-x-150mm

This is now my standard external wall technique & I've never had a problem.

I use the self drilling anchors you mention only on internal hollow walls.

HTH



The OP might try just wrapping masking tape round the thread. This has
worked for me on the plastic toggle type plugs

Samantha Booth wrote:

I am trying to put up some fittings in the bathroom. It came with wall plugs
and screws but as I have a house made of plasterboard I have bought some
medium strength plasterboard screws. They are the thick fat type that screw
into the pb you then put a screw into the centre of it, like this
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/P..._3/FXPBS35.JPG

those are redidrivers, not plasterboard screws.


Thing is the first one went in no trouble, the second one just kept spinning
around it would not and could not get a grip. Can anyone help me here
please.

Thanks sam

Whatever fixing you use, its only ever going to be as strong as the
PB you fix to. And that isnt very strong. If you have the option to
fix to something more solid, such as an upright, then do.


NT

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:25:02 -0700, meow2222 wrote:

Samantha Booth wrote:

those are redidrivers, not plasterboard screws.

Thing is the first one went in no trouble, the second one just kept
spinning around it would not and could not get a grip. Can anyone help
me here please.

Redidrivas are quite touchy about the hole they are in - once you over
tighten them they will never grip as the plasterboard they need to grip
on to isn't there any more.

Your only option there if you want to still use redidrivas is to maybe
move the fitting enough left-right or up/down to get fresh plasterboard
and start again.

If you can't move it, then it depends what is behind the plasterboard. If
there's a stud nearby (a piece of wood screwed to the wall that the
plasterboard is then nailed to) you could attach the fitting to that. To
find it you'd need to use a 'studfinder' (best tool name ever) or tap the
wall to see when it sounds less hollow then prod a few test holes with a
scewdriver to find the stud. You may need to drill new holes in the
fitting so they line up. I'm assuming it's a bathroom cabinet or
something, so you can make new holes in the back and hide test holes
behind it...

If there is no stud (likely in a new house that's been dot-n-dabbed and
you have to have it where it is, either drill a new fixing hole and use a
redidriva again, or use much longer screws and normal rawlplugs into the
brick wall behind the plasterboard+cavity. If the wall behind the
plasterboard is more plasterboard, you can't do that.


Whatever fixing you use, its only ever going to be as strong as the PB
you fix to. And that isnt very strong. If you have the option to fix to
something more solid, such as an upright, then do.

Someone at work recently had a set of shelves fall down along with the
entire plasterboard sheet they were firmly attached to. He claims they
were already in the house when he bought it, though ;-)