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On 2008-05-20 22:26:17 +0100, "George" said:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre saw.

Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.



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Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre saw.

Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.




I think you should go into the power tool trade and start selling high
quality groceries MrHall. ;-)


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On 2008-05-20 22:26:17 +0100, "George" said:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre saw.

Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.




I think you should go into the power tool trade and start selling high
quality groceries MrHall. ;-)


A good proposition.

It would be much easier for a quality tool store to offer vouchers for
a good moules-frites at a local brasserie than it is for a bulk
reseller of cheap, bulk wet potatoes to attempt to sell woodworking
machinery.

This is a 20:1 ratio on price vs. 5:1



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On 2008-05-20 22:26:17 +0100, "George" said:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.


All of course at 10 times the price of the Aldi machine.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre saw.


Tempting proposition for the average DIY guy. £500 for a Makita or £50 for
an Aldi. Hmmm. Wonder what the average bloke wanting to cut a few deck
boards would buy?

Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.


Is that why they won 8 quality food awards in 2007?


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On 2008-05-20 22:26:17 +0100, "George" said:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.


All of course at 10 times the price of the Aldi machine.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre
saw.


Tempting proposition for the average DIY guy. £500 for a Makita or £50
for an Aldi. Hmmm. Wonder what the average bloke wanting to cut a few
deck boards would buy?


The Aldi one is a bit pricy.
I have a PPro one that I paid £20 as a refurb that works quite well.


Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.


Is that why they won 8 quality food awards in 2007?


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The Aldi one is a bit pricy.
I have a PPro one that I paid £20 as a refurb that works quite well.


Magic! Dennis,now let us all know where we can get these refurb saws?


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The Aldi one is a bit pricy.
I have a PPro one that I paid £20 as a refurb that works quite well.


Magic! Dennis,now let us all know where we can get these refurb saws?



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proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.


All of course at 10 times the price of the Aldi machine.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre saw.


Tempting proposition for the average DIY guy. £500 for a Makita or £50 for
an Aldi. Hmmm. Wonder what the average bloke wanting to cut a few deck
boards would buy?


I got a nice LS1214 off eBay for PPPro money....

Very nice bit of kit it is too...


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Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-20 22:26:17 +0100, "George" said:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.


All of course at 10 times the price of the Aldi machine.


and ...


Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre saw.


Tempting proposition for the average DIY guy. £500 for a Makita or £50 for
an Aldi. Hmmm. Wonder what the average bloke wanting to cut a few deck
boards would buy?


That would depend on whether he wants to do a proper job or not.



Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.


Is that why they won 8 quality food awards in 2007?


Microsoft received awards for corporate citizenship.......




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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Hall
saying something like:

On 2008-05-20 22:26:17 +0100, "George" said:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre saw.

Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.


Ah, ffs, change the record.

Actually, these days - I think your laser's stuck.

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How much more suspenseful can you get?"
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Hall
saying something like:

On 2008-05-20 22:26:17 +0100, "George" said:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre saw.

Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.


Ah, ffs, change the record.

Actually, these days - I think your laser's stuck.


Solid state.....



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said:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Hall
saying something like:

On 2008-05-20 22:26:17 +0100, "George" said:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk

After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre
saw.

Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.


Ah, ffs, change the record.

Actually, these days - I think your laser's stuck.


Solid state.....


They still move and they still stick.

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On 2008-05-21 21:12:13 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
said:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Hall
saying something like:

On 2008-05-20 22:26:17 +0100, "George" said:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre saw.

Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.


Ah, ffs, change the record.

Actually, these days - I think your laser's stuck.


It's more reasonable to present the proper tool for doing a job than an
unsuitable one from an unsuitable supplier.


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It's more reasonable to present the proper tool for doing a job than an
unsuitable one from an unsuitable supplier.


Since you claim never to buy cheap tools on principle you have no idea
whether they are suitable or not. My findings are they are suitable for
many jobs I do. As, apparently, do others.

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On 2008-05-21 23:38:12 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
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In article 48349846@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
It's more reasonable to present the proper tool for doing a job than an
unsuitable one from an unsuitable supplier.


Since you claim never to buy cheap tools on principle you have no idea
whether they are suitable or not.


It's not an issue of not buying tools cheaply on principle. I don't
want to spend money needlessly. However, I do set certain basic
requirements:

- What are the set of tasks now and during the expected life of the
tool that I will have for it?
- Will it do those with the precision and ease of use that I require?
- Is the construction of good quality and likely to safe in use for the
expected lifetime of the tool?
- Does it use industry standard consumables?
- What are the spares arrangements?
- What are the service arrangements?
- Am I convinced that the reliability will be such that service will
rarely be required if at all?
- If I have a problem, am I convinced that the retailer and the
manufacturer will take responsibility for it?

The first two of these are the basic qualifying criteria.
Safety over lifetime and industry standard consumables are an absolute
requirement.

For the last four, I do not consider that a three year guarantee with
replacement or refund but no spares or service is an acceptable
solution. This means that the product has a three year lifetime as
far as I am concerned. Therefore as a minimum I will add in the cost
of going to make at least one replacement during the guarantee and
another at the end. Those costs would need to be balanced against a
5,10 or 20 year lifetime of something with better quality with proper
service backup.

For the case in point of SCMS products, I have tried out models at a
wide range of price points to assess their suitability. On some,
it's possible to determine that they fall down at the first few hurdles
just by examination of a display model. For example, are the guards
flimsy, is there play in the mechanisms and are the slides less than
silky smooth? If a product passed the first four criteria, I might
even be prepared to forego the last four, but I have yet to find a sub
£100 SCMS that does. Also at this price point, the cost of making one
replacement during warranty and one at the end have to be added in
directly and will be equal to or exceeding the purchase price.

Some in the £100 - 200 range may pass some of these tests but I have
never seen one that does all. At that price range I am going to be
much more serious about the service and spares requirements. For
example, if it's not possible to buy spare guards etc. the item is a
write off as soon as it breaks.

There is then a gap in the market with few if any products until around
£400. At that price point, one can begin to find products that meet
all of the criteria above.

In all of this, safety above all is the prime consideration, followed
by time and suitability. On these bases, I couldn't afford to buy a
£50 SCMS, they are much too expensive.

My findings are they are suitable for
many jobs I do. As, apparently, do others.


I guess that you must have different criteria or weight them differently.


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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Hall
saying something like:

On 2008-05-20 22:26:17 +0100, "George" said:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk

After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre
saw.

Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.


Ah, ffs, change the record.

Actually, these days - I think your laser's stuck.


It's more reasonable to present the proper tool for doing a job than an
unsuitable one from an unsuitable supplier.



I agree, don't buy any of the recommended saws until you know what the job
is.
Then you can buy the best one for that job.

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"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:48349846@qaanaaq...
On 2008-05-21 21:12:13 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
said:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Hall
saying something like:

On 2008-05-20 22:26:17 +0100, "George" said:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk

After buying the potatoes, cabbage and baked beans from there, one can
proceed to a tool supplier to buy a Makita LS1013, DeWalt 708, Bosch
GCM 12SD or Metabo (Elektra Beckum) KGS305.

Any of these will fulfill the role of a proper sliding compound mitre saw.

Aldi may have something that can be boiled and processed to make
something that approximates to potato puree.

Ah, ffs, change the record.

Actually, these days - I think your laser's stuck.


It's more reasonable to present the proper tool for doing a job than an
unsuitable one from an unsuitable supplier.



I agree, don't buy any of the recommended saws until you know what the job is.
Then you can buy the best one for that job.


... and certainly don't buy on impulse from a discount supermarket
because it happens to have a low price tag

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Thanks! That gives me four days to find out what a sliding mitre saw
does, and work out why I might need one someday.

;-)
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Thanks! That gives me four days to find out what a sliding mitre saw
does, and work out why I might need one someday.

;-)


Simple anwser to that is...

Lets suppose you want to lay decking ie 200 pieces need cutting to size,now
that would mean alot of effort with a hand saw.

Sure we can just buy a conventional chop saw but at the same price you can
buy a cheap chop saw we have the oppertunity to buy a sliding mitre chop saw
which will cut deeper and wider than the chop saw.
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Sunday the 25th
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Thanks! That gives me four days to find out what a sliding mitre saw
does, and work out why I might need one someday.

;-)


Simple anwser to that is...

Lets suppose you want to lay decking ie 200 pieces need cutting to size,now
that would mean alot of effort with a hand saw.

Sure we can just buy a conventional chop saw but at the same price you can
buy a cheap chop saw we have the oppertunity to buy a sliding mitre chop saw
which will cut deeper and wider than the chop saw.
;-)



Thanks George, that was quick!

I've been using my plain vanilla mitre saw to cut skirtings and I get
irritated by the fact the saw misses just a little bit at the corner.
Now I need to decide whether it is worth £50 minus 1p to remove that
irritation ...

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"Bruce" wrote in message
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Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


Thanks! That gives me four days to find out what a sliding mitre saw
does, and work out why I might need one someday.

;-)


Simple anwser to that is...

Lets suppose you want to lay decking ie 200 pieces need cutting to
size,now
that would mean alot of effort with a hand saw.

Sure we can just buy a conventional chop saw but at the same price you can
buy a cheap chop saw we have the oppertunity to buy a sliding mitre chop
saw
which will cut deeper and wider than the chop saw.
;-)



Thanks George, that was quick!

I've been using my plain vanilla mitre saw to cut skirtings and I get
irritated by the fact the saw misses just a little bit at the corner.
Now I need to decide whether it is worth £50 minus 1p to remove that
irritation ...


Or maybe filing a wee bit off the depth stop?
Or fitting a slightly larger blade?
Or putting a ply packing piece on the saw bed?

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Or maybe filing a wee bit off the depth stop?
Or fitting a slightly larger blade?
Or putting a ply packing piece on the saw bed?



Cheaper than £50 minus 1p for sure! Thanks.

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"Bruce" wrote in message


I've been using my plain vanilla mitre saw to cut skirtings and I get
irritated by the fact the saw misses just a little bit at the corner.
Now I need to decide whether it is worth £50 minus 1p to remove that
irritation ...


Or maybe filing a wee bit off the depth stop?
Or fitting a slightly larger blade?
Or putting a ply packing piece on the saw bed?


Or visiting local A&E department....

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Thanks George, that was quick!

I've been using my plain vanilla mitre saw to cut skirtings and I get
irritated by the fact the saw misses just a little bit at the corner.
Now I need to decide whether it is worth £50 minus 1p to remove that
irritation ...


Hah! you didn't pay attention to your woodwork teacher at school. ;-)

Pack it up on a scrap piece of wood.
Also when cutting a piece of wood put a scrap piece of wood behind
it...stops the other side of the wood getting splintered.




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Thanks George, that was quick!

I've been using my plain vanilla mitre saw to cut skirtings and I get
irritated by the fact the saw misses just a little bit at the corner.
Now I need to decide whether it is worth £50 minus 1p to remove that
irritation ...


Hah! you didn't pay attention to your woodwork teacher at school. ;-)



That's because my school didn't teach woodwork or metalwork, despite
it being a legal requirement. One of many serious disappointments
about that school!

Still, I did get O Level Latin, so I suppose I should be grateful for
that. Rarely has a day gone by since then without me saying to myself
"I am so glad I did O level Latin, so I am."


Pack it up on a scrap piece of wood.
Also when cutting a piece of wood put a scrap piece of wood behind
it...stops the other side of the wood getting splintered.



Thanks. These are basic things that I could easily have learned in a
woodwork class.
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"George" wrote:


"Bruce" wrote in message
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"George" wrote:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


Thanks! That gives me four days to find out what a sliding mitre saw
does, and work out why I might need one someday.

;-)


Simple anwser to that is...

Lets suppose you want to lay decking ie 200 pieces need cutting to size,now
that would mean alot of effort with a hand saw.

Sure we can just buy a conventional chop saw but at the same price you can
buy a cheap chop saw we have the oppertunity to buy a sliding mitre chop saw
which will cut deeper and wider than the chop saw.
;-)



Thanks George, that was quick!

I've been using my plain vanilla mitre saw to cut skirtings and I get
irritated by the fact the saw misses just a little bit at the corner.
Now I need to decide whether it is worth £50 minus 1p to remove that
irritation ...


Not really. You will simply replace it with another irritation when
you discover that cheap SCM saws are not capable of repeatable and
consistent cuts without resetting and checking before each one.




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"George" wrote:


"Bruce" wrote in message
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"George" wrote:

Sunday the 25th
http://www.aldi.co.uk


Thanks! That gives me four days to find out what a sliding mitre saw
does, and work out why I might need one someday.

;-)

Simple anwser to that is...

Lets suppose you want to lay decking ie 200 pieces need cutting to
size,now that would mean alot of effort with a hand saw.

Sure we can just buy a conventional chop saw but at the same price
you can buy a cheap chop saw we have the oppertunity to buy a sliding
mitre chop saw which will cut deeper and wider than the chop saw. ;-)



Thanks George, that was quick!

I've been using my plain vanilla mitre saw to cut skirtings and I get
irritated by the fact the saw misses just a little bit at the corner.
Now I need to decide whether it is worth £50 minus 1p to remove that
irritation ...


Not really. You will simply replace it with another irritation when
you discover that cheap SCM saws are not capable of repeatable and
consistent cuts without resetting and checking before each one.


It's likely to be far more accurate than cutting by hand or with a hand
power tool - for the average person. Not everyone will want it for cabinet
making and it's likely to be more than adequate for joinery.

In other words a fiddle player won't get the best out of a Stradivarius.

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Now I need to decide whether it is worth £50 minus 1p to remove that
irritation ...


I do have a sliding mitre saw - but a B&Q one. Which can just cut 12"
shelves etc. Anything less would be a real pain. Means a 10" blade, though
and is of course much larger overall. It's not perfect but excellent value
- I couldn't have justified the 500 quid plus for a 'name' one.

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Thanks! That gives me four days to find out what a sliding mitre saw
does, and work out why I might need one someday.


http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/powertools/mitresaw.htm

(you know you want one!)


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On Tue, 20 May 2008 23:08:54 +0100, Bruce wrote:

Thanks! That gives me four days to find out what a sliding mitre saw
does, and work out why I might need one someday.


It does that which a non-sliding chop saw doesn't, and thus makes it
almost useless.

I'm about as extreme as Andy Hall when it comes to avoiding tools that
are any less than stellar in performance - but I'll be buying one of
these. 50 quid for making chicken coops in half the time? I'll have
some of that. 30mm bore on the blade too (unusual), so you can easily
find blades for it.
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 23:08:54 +0100, Bruce wrote:

Thanks! That gives me four days to find out what a sliding mitre saw
does, and work out why I might need one someday.


It does that which a non-sliding chop saw doesn't, and thus makes it
almost useless.

I'm about as extreme as Andy Hall when it comes to avoiding tools that
are any less than stellar in performance - but I'll be buying one of
these. 50 quid for making chicken coops in half the time? I'll have
some of that. 30mm bore on the blade too (unusual), so you can easily
find blades for it.



Andy do you want to try writing this again, or was every sentence meant to
be contradictory?

I'm sure you know what you meant to say, but it is difficult to interpret
anything from it.

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It does that which a non-sliding chop saw doesn't, and thus makes it
almost useless.


A non-sliding chop saw chops. It doesn't do anything else. As a
result, they're of little practical use for anything - butt joints and
that's about it.

Stick a slide on there, with a depth stop, and the assumption is that
you get wider cuts. This is true, but not really that useful either.
Unless you pay several hundred quid you don't get _enough_ width to
cut more than a narrow skirting. If you do pay the full whack for a
big one, you've still only bought a flimsy unbalanaced radial arm saw.

What the really useful benefit on a sliding mitre saw with a depth
stop is, is its ability to cut halved joints quickly. _Now_ you've got
a useful tool for simpler carpentry, particularly chicken coops and
shopfitting or stud walls.


Incidentally, if you want a cheap radial arm saw, just find someone
who's got one and wait. After they've scared themselves ****less when
ripping went wrong on it, offer them a fiver to take it away. While
they're still shaking, they'll be only too glad to see it go. Then
went you get it home, lock the head so that it can't be swivelled for
ripping any more.


30mm bore on the blade too (unusual), so you can easily find blades for it.


Cheap chop saws have a habit of using funny spindle diameters so you
can't replace the blade, either for a better one, a new sharp one, or
for a more appropriate choice of tooth. 30mm is standard though and
there's a big range.
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Cheap chop saws have a habit of using funny spindle diameters so you
can't replace the blade, either for a better one, a new sharp one, or
for a more appropriate choice of tooth. 30mm is standard though and
there's a big range.


My cheap ebay one cost £80

I can't fault it,gives accurate cut after cut ie no resetting of its
adustents.
The blade is 254x25 which isn't a standard blade size realy but screwfix do
em along with Tooled-up and probably elsewere if I look.



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Andy Dingley wrote:

Incidentally, if you want a cheap radial arm saw, just find someone
who's got one and wait. After they've scared themselves ****less when
ripping went wrong on it, offer them a fiver to take it away. While
they're still shaking, they'll be only too glad to see it go. Then
went you get it home, lock the head so that it can't be swivelled for
ripping any more.



I bought my DeWalt RAS 25+ years ago thinking it was the answer to all my
woodworking needs. Tried ripping once or twice & never done it since :-)


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