On 2008-03-18 19:21:47 +0000, Stuart Noble
said:

Ah but Swiss mis-spelling is immeasurably superior to Chinese. It isn't
in any way indicative of contempt for their customers, nor is it the
tip of an iceberg. Their cuckoo clocks work very well apparently.

How good is your Switzerduetsch?

In article 47e02ffd@qaanaaq, Andy Hall wrote:


Counterfeit ?

Spelling mistake on packaging is a dead giveaway.


I quite agree. Spelling mistakes are a dead giveaway of forgeries.

Look at these examples from the Lamello website...

What kind of gullible sap would pay through the nose for this obviously
counterfeit monkey-metal junk?

They're Swiss...

You need to understand what that means....


To most people, I'd assumes it means that they (the people who wrote the
text on the website) are Swiss nationls or they (the tools) are branded
by a company based in Switzerland.

What does it mean to you?

And how does the nationality of a copywriter or a company in any way
bolster your assertion that a transposition of two adjacent letters is
indicative of counterfeit goods?

On 2008-03-18 21:48:11 +0000, mike said:

In article 47e02ffd@qaanaaq, Andy Hall wrote:


Counterfeit ?

Spelling mistake on packaging is a dead giveaway.


I quite agree. Spelling mistakes are a dead giveaway of forgeries.

Look at these examples from the Lamello website...

What kind of gullible sap would pay through the nose for this obviously
counterfeit monkey-metal junk?

They're Swiss...

You need to understand what that means....


To most people, I'd assumes it means that they (the people who wrote the
text on the website) are Swiss nationls or they (the tools) are branded
by a company based in Switzerland.

What does it mean to you?

And how does the nationality of a copywriter or a company in any way
bolster your assertion that a transposition of two adjacent letters is
indicative of counterfeit goods?

Fairly simple, really.

I know about Lamello products because I have and use them. They are
specialist and non volumet product with a quality and precision that
speaks for iself.

Spear and Jackson is a mass market product with a brand reputation. It
might be reasonable to see a typo in an instruction book but not on a
main product label. There are two possibilities with that:

a) Counterfeit

b) Brand has been sold sloppily to the Chinese with no controls.

Either a) or b) makes the product untenabe in the market.

In article 47e03e8f@qaanaaq, Andy Hall wrote:

On 2008-03-18 21:48:11 +0000, mike said:

In article 47e02ffd@qaanaaq, Andy Hall wrote:


Counterfeit ?

Spelling mistake on packaging is a dead giveaway.


I quite agree. Spelling mistakes are a dead giveaway of forgeries.

Look at these examples from the Lamello website...

What kind of gullible sap would pay through the nose for this obviously
counterfeit monkey-metal junk?

They're Swiss...

You need to understand what that means....


To most people, I'd assumes it means that they (the people who wrote the
text on the website) are Swiss nationls or they (the tools) are branded
by a company based in Switzerland.

What does it mean to you?

And how does the nationality of a copywriter or a company in any way
bolster your assertion that a transposition of two adjacent letters is
indicative of counterfeit goods?

Fairly simple, really.

I know about Lamello products because I have and use them. They are
specialist and non volumet product with a quality and precision that
speaks for iself.

Spear and Jackson is a mass market product with a brand reputation. It
might be reasonable to see a typo in an instruction book but not on a
main product label. There are two possibilities with that:

a) Counterfeit

b) Brand has been sold sloppily to the Chinese with no controls.

Either a) or b) makes the product untenabe in the market.

You still haven't explained what "Swiss" means to you.

Is it reasonable to see a catalogue of errors on a website? I notice
you've introduced the "typo in the instruction book" criterion but
ignored the website that you like so much and which rather drags the rug
out from under your theory.

You say that there are two possibilities for explaining a typo on a main
product label. Is it possible that there's a third explanation and that
someone simply slipped up on this one occasion? It is after all what
you characterise as a typo. I realise you yourself would never commit a
typo but out there in the grand sweep of humanity.....

Actually, I made an error in that last sentence, didn't I? I said that
you'd never make a typo but in fact you made three. Does this mean
you're counterfeit? Or have you been sold sloppily to the Chinese with
no controls?

And in fact aren't you being rather sloppy yourself when you say "sold
sloppily"? Did you mean the sloppy epithet to apply to the Chinese
manufacturing rather than the transfer of assets overseas by Spear and
Jackson's financial advisers?

On 2008-03-18 22:44:48 +0000, mike said:

You still haven't explained what "Swiss" means to you.

Predominantly someone or something from, belonging to or made in Switzerland.


Is it reasonable to see a catalogue of errors on a website?

Who knows.


I notice
you've introduced the "typo in the instruction book" criterion but
ignored the website that you like so much and which rather drags the rug
out from under your theory.

I don't like any web sites particularly.



You say that there are two possibilities for explaining a typo on a main
product label. Is it possible that there's a third explanation and that
someone simply slipped up on this one occasion?

Possible, but on a main product label of a mass market product.....

It is after all what
you characterise as a typo. I realise you yourself would never commit a
typo but out there in the grand sweep of humanity.....

Actually, I made an error in that last sentence, didn't I? I said that
you'd never make a typo but in fact you made three.

Quite possibly. However, I am not writing the text for product labeling.


Does this mean
you're counterfeit? Or have you been sold sloppily to the Chinese with
no controls?

I prefer to be paid.



And in fact aren't you being rather sloppy yourself when you say "sold
sloppily"? Did you mean the sloppy epithet to apply to the Chinese
manufacturing rather than the transfer of assets overseas by Spear and
Jackson's financial advisers?

Either or both - take your choice.

Spear and Jackson is a mass market product with a brand reputation. It
might be reasonable to see a typo in an instruction book but not on a
main product label. There are two possibilities with that:

a) Counterfeit

b) Brand has been sold sloppily to the Chinese with no controls.

Either a) or b) makes the product untenabe in the market.

More likely Spear & Jackson are allowing Woollies to use the name for
something they have nothing to do with. More proof, if it were needed,
that a brand name doesn't mean much any more.