I want to remove our alarm as the mains feed for the control box has
been taken off a socket in another room and tucked behind carpet
gripper for a couple of metres. Nice.

A little experiementing a while back taught me that the external bell
boxes have battery backup and trigger when both the mains and battery
in the control box are removed. So presumably I need to get up a
ladder to disconnect those batteries before powering down the control
box.

My question is what happens when I do this? Will the bell box that
I'm playing with go off when the battery is removed? Will some anti-
tamper setting mean that the other bell box on the other side of the
house goes off?

TIA.

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My question is what happens when I do this? Will the bell box that
I'm playing with go off when the battery is removed? Will some anti-
tamper setting mean that the other bell box on the other side of the
house goes off?

TIA.

Do known if the other bell box is just a dummy one?

Just remove the battery at the bellbox front first,if the other is not a
dummy? what the hell you're going to silence it anyway.

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:40:18 UTC, "
wrote:

I want to remove our alarm as the mains feed for the control box has
been taken off a socket in another room and tucked behind carpet
gripper for a couple of metres. Nice.

A little experiementing a while back taught me that the external bell
boxes have battery backup and trigger when both the mains and battery
in the control box are removed. So presumably I need to get up a
ladder to disconnect those batteries before powering down the control
box.

My question is what happens when I do this? Will the bell box that
I'm playing with go off when the battery is removed? Will some anti-
tamper setting mean that the other bell box on the other side of the
house goes off?

Put a battery (usually 12v) on the appropriate wires to the bells.
That'll take the place of the continuous voltage being supplied by the
control box. I put a junction box in the loft to do this; I intended
(but haven't yet) to put a bettery and switch with it.
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On 25 Jan, 12:40, "
wrote:
I want to remove our alarm as the mains feed for the control box has
been taken off a socket in another room and tucked behind carpet
gripper for a couple of metres. *Nice.

A little experiementing a while back taught me that the external bell
boxes have battery backup and trigger when both the mains and battery
in the control box are removed. *So presumably I need to get up a
ladder to disconnect those batteries before powering down the control
box.

My question is what happens when I do this? *Will the bell box that
I'm playing with go off when the battery is removed? *Will some anti-
tamper setting mean that the other bell box on the other side of the
house goes off?

TIA.

The bell-box will have an anti-tamper switch that triggers the alarm
when you remove the cover.

Mark.

On Jan 25, 12:40 pm, "
wrote:
I want to remove our alarm as the mains feed for the control box has
been taken off a socket in another room and tucked behind carpet
gripper for a couple of metres. Nice.

A little experiementing a while back taught me that the external bell
boxes have battery backup and trigger when both the mains and battery
in the control box are removed. So presumably I need to get up a
ladder to disconnect those batteries before powering down the control
box.

My question is what happens when I do this? Will the bell box that
I'm playing with go off when the battery is removed? Will some anti-
tamper setting mean that the other bell box on the other side of the
house goes off?

TIA.

If you have a back up battery in the control panel then the bell box
should not go off if the mains is disconnected. If you want to remove
the whole system, try and get a copy of the control panel manual -
there may be a way of removing it without triggering the bell.

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wrote:
I want to remove our alarm as the mains feed for the control box has
been taken off a socket in another room and tucked behind carpet
gripper for a couple of metres. Nice.

Typical pro installation, then?

A little experiementing a while back taught me that the external bell
boxes have battery backup and trigger when both the mains and battery
in the control box are removed. So presumably I need to get up a
ladder to disconnect those batteries before powering down the control
box.

It should be difficult to get inside - anti tamper screws etc. And an anti
tamper switch if you just try and prise it off the wall.

My question is what happens when I do this? Will the bell box that
I'm playing with go off when the battery is removed? Will some anti-
tamper setting mean that the other bell box on the other side of the
house goes off?

Personally I'd just let it go off. Do it at a sensible time of the day.
You can always stand outside the open front door looking wistful and
checking your watch. That's assuming the internal batteries still work
which is unlikely anyway.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Personally I'd just let it go off. Do it at a sensible time of the day.
You can always stand outside the open front door looking wistful and
checking your watch. That's assuming the internal batteries still work
which is unlikely anyway.


Even if the batteries do work the outside bell box batteries will die in
less than 20 minutes.

Adam

Thanks all. I hadn't considered anti-tamper switches on the bell box
casing itself, so I'm rather glad I didn't have a go at it before
posting here!

It doesn't seem to have the model number on it, so there's little
chance of tracking down the manual (that said, there can't be many key-
operated alarms from 2001/2 out there). Guess I'll go with Dave's
suggestion after warning the neighbours.

wrote:
Thanks all. I hadn't considered anti-tamper switches on the bell box
casing itself, so I'm rather glad I didn't have a go at it before
posting here!

It doesn't seem to have the model number on it, so there's little
chance of tracking down the manual (that said, there can't be many key-
operated alarms from 2001/2 out there). Guess I'll go with Dave's
suggestion after warning the neighbours.

If you *do* decide to open the bellbox, wear earplugs. They can be
quite noisy close up.

I had to replace my own after we had a new carpet done. Assuming they
had put a nail through a wire, I called a pro in to tell me what it was
intending to sue them for the damage. He told me it was just chance.
So I fitted a new one - and found the short while I was doing it...

Andy

Andy

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Andy Champ writes:
wrote:
Thanks all. I hadn't considered anti-tamper switches on the bell box
casing itself, so I'm rather glad I didn't have a go at it before
posting here!

It doesn't seem to have the model number on it, so there's little
chance of tracking down the manual (that said, there can't be many key-
operated alarms from 2001/2 out there). Guess I'll go with Dave's
suggestion after warning the neighbours.

If you *do* decide to open the bellbox, wear earplugs. They can be
quite noisy close up.

I played with mine in the living room before fitting to get to grips
with how it worked (stuffed the siren in the middle of the sofa with
all the cushions piled up on it;-) ISTR finding it was more intelligent
than I had at first imagined. If you put the panel into engineer test
mode, you could then open the siren box without it going off.

--
Andrew Gabriel
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:18:42 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

It doesn't seem to have the model number on it, so there's little
chance of tracking down the manual (that said, there can't be many key-
operated alarms from 2001/2 out there).

I had my panel and bell box changed last summer. The electrican left
me with a single sheet instruction leaflet, how to reset, change code
etc. Within half an hour of him leaving I'd got the full manual from
the internet. Never tried that with the old key panel though.
(When I mentioned that there was a box at the back of the house he
said straight away, without looking, that it was a dummy. Is it
standard practice to fit them at the back?)

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:18:42 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

It doesn't seem to have the model number on it, so there's little
chance of tracking down the manual (that said, there can't be many key-
operated alarms from 2001/2 out there).

I had my panel and bell box changed last summer. The electrican left
me with a single sheet instruction leaflet, how to reset, change code
etc. Within half an hour of him leaving I'd got the full manual from
the internet. Never tried that with the old key panel though.
(When I mentioned that there was a box at the back of the house he
said straight away, without looking, that it was a dummy. Is it
standard practice to fit them at the back?)

Yes unless you stipulate you want an active bell box at the bac as well.
I have both boxes active on the front&back.
Apparently this is where most house burgalries take place lol.