I have connected a bathroom tap to the exisiting copper-pipe using a
braided flexi connector with a compression joint.
I need to undo this joint briefly in order to make the connection for
the other tap.

If I undo the joint and then re-tighten it, can I still expect it to
be water tight?
Or do I need to replace the olive?

Mark.

wrote:
I have connected a bathroom tap to the exisiting copper-pipe using a
braided flexi connector with a compression joint.
I need to undo this joint briefly in order to make the connection for
the other tap.

If I undo the joint and then re-tighten it, can I still expect it to
be water tight?
Or do I need to replace the olive?

Mark.

The olive should not be compressed to exactly where it needs to be.
Provided it was done properly to start with there will be no problems
undoing it and re-tightening it. I bit of Water Hawk (or similar) will
seal the joint.

Andrew

wrote:
I have connected a bathroom tap to the exisiting copper-pipe using a
braided flexi connector with a compression joint.
I need to undo this joint briefly in order to make the connection for
the other tap.

If I undo the joint and then re-tighten it, can I still expect it to
be water tight?
Or do I need to replace the olive?

Mark.


Should be OK unless, first time around, it was overtightened. Keep grit
etc. away.

Steve

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:37:50 +0100, Andrew May
wrote:

wrote:
I have connected a bathroom tap to the exisiting copper-pipe using a
braided flexi connector with a compression joint.
I need to undo this joint briefly in order to make the connection for
the other tap.

If I undo the joint and then re-tighten it, can I still expect it to
be water tight?
Or do I need to replace the olive?

Mark.

The olive should not be

compressed to exactly where it needs to be.
Provided it was done properly to start with there will be no problems
undoing it and re-tightening it. I bit of Water Hawk (or similar) will
seal the joint.

Andrew

"should not be " ??

On Oct 12, 2:41 pm, Steve wrote:
wrote:
I have connected a bathroom tap to the exisiting copper-pipe using a
braided flexi connector with a compression joint.
I need to undo this joint briefly in order to make the connection for
the other tap.

If I undo the joint and then re-tighten it, can I still expect it to
be water tight?
Or do I need to replace the olive?

Mark.

Should be OK unless, first time around, it was overtightened. Keep grit
etc. away.

Steve

I know the OP did not ask this but remember that although the same
fitting can be put back on you cannot use a different type of
fitting . They don't all leave the same length of tube sticking out
beyond the olive. if you replace the hose with one where the olvive
should be closer to the end of the pipe it will not seal.

Robert

Stuart B wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:37:50 +0100, Andrew May
wrote:

wrote:
I have connected a bathroom tap to the exisiting copper-pipe using a
braided flexi connector with a compression joint.
I need to undo this joint briefly in order to make the connection for
the other tap.

If I undo the joint and then re-tighten it, can I still expect it to
be water tight?
Or do I need to replace the olive?

Mark.

The olive should not be

compressed to exactly where it needs to be.
Provided it was done properly to start with there will be no problems
undoing it and re-tightening it. I bit of Water Hawk (or similar) will
seal the joint.

Andrew

"should not be " ??
s/not be/be

:-)

wrote:
I have connected a bathroom tap to the exisiting copper-pipe using a
braided flexi connector with a compression joint.
I need to undo this joint briefly in order to make the connection for
the other tap.

If I undo the joint and then re-tighten it, can I still expect it to
be water tight?
Or do I need to replace the olive?


You shouldn't be able to remove the olive - unless you have a specific olive
removal tool.


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Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

On 12 Oct, 15:44, Andrew May wrote:
Stuart B wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:37:50 +0100, Andrew May
wrote:

wrote:
I have connected a bathroom tap to the exisiting copper-pipe using a
braided flexi connector with a compression joint.
I need to undo this joint briefly in order to make the connection for
the other tap.

If I undo the joint and then re-tighten it, can I still expect it to
be water tight?
Or do I need to replace the olive?

Mark.

The olive should not be

compressed to exactly where it needs to be.
Provided it was done properly to start with there will be no problems
undoing it and re-tightening it. I bit of Water Hawk (or similar) will
seal the joint.

Andrew

"should not be " ??

s/not be/be

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Great - thanks guys!

The Medway Handyman wrote:

You shouldn't be able to remove the olive - unless you have a specific
olive removal tool.

If the need arises you sometimes can. Put an open ended spanner round the
pipe behind the olive and drive it off with a hammer.

--
Mike Clarke

Mike Clarke wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

You shouldn't be able to remove the olive - unless you have a
specific olive removal tool.

If the need arises you sometimes can. Put an open ended spanner round
the pipe behind the olive and drive it off with a hammer.

Hmmmm! Think I prefer the olive puller :-)

I'd been thinking of getting one for a while, but a bit put off by the £20
ish price tag. Needed one for a job the other day, so I decided to bite the
bullet.

Local plumbers merchant had the Silverline one (copy of the Monument) & sold
it to me for £4:99 - what a result!

They work a treat.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

In article k The Medway
Handyman wrote:

Hmmmm! *Think I prefer the olive puller :-)

In the ideal world, yes. But not having one and being 10 miles away from the
nearest plumbers merchant the spanner and hammer did the job fine and was
quicker and cheaper. Fortunately I was able to detach the section of pipe
and grip it in a vice, it would have been near impossible if I'd had to do
it in situ with the pipe wobbling about as I bashed it.

I'd been thinking of getting one for a while, but a bit put off by the £20
ish price tag. *Needed one for a job the other day, so I decided to bite
the bullet.

Local plumbers merchant had the Silverline one (copy of the Monument) &
sold it to me for £4:99 - what a result!

They work a treat.

The 20 quid ones do seem a bit overpriced for what they are, that sounds
much better value for occasional use.

--
Mike Clarke

Mike Clarke wrote in message
Handyman wrote:

Hmmmm! Think I prefer the olive puller :-)

In the ideal world, yes. But not having one and being 10 miles away from
the
nearest plumbers merchant the spanner and hammer did the job fine and was
quicker and cheaper. Fortunately I was able to detach the section of pipe
and grip it in a vice, it would have been near impossible if I'd had to do
it in situ with the pipe wobbling about as I bashed it.


You only need to cut a grove in the olive with a hacksaw or Dremel clone,
insert screwdriver and twist job done.


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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
.uk...

Local plumbers merchant had the Silverline one (copy of the Monument) &
sold it to me for £4:99 - what a result!

Was this a 'local' merchant or a local branch of a nationwide group as I
would like a puller but I am not prepared to pay £20 for (in my life) an
occasionl use tool, but I could run to a fiver!!.

Cheers

John

P.S. Will you buy me one in return for beer tokens ;-)

John wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
message .uk...

Local plumbers merchant had the Silverline one (copy of the
Monument) & sold it to me for £4:99 - what a result!

Was this a 'local' merchant or a local branch of a nationwide group
as I would like a puller but I am not prepared to pay £20 for (in my
life) an occasionl use tool, but I could run to a fiver!!.

Local independant shop. My thoughts exactly, useful but not worth £20.
Basicaly its only a few bits of threaded brass.

P.S. Will you buy me one in return for beer tokens ;-)

I'll have a look next time I'm in there & see if they have any left. To be
honest I think they have made a cock up on the price.

Problem might be getting it to you, v heavy so postage wont be cheap - where
are you?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

In article Mark wrote:

You only need to cut a grove in the olive with a hacksaw or Dremel clone,
insert screwdriver and twist job done.

Yes, done that too, but there is the risk of scoring the pipe surface. I
found the spanner and hammer quicker and cleaner.

--
Mike Clarke

In article ,
Mike Clarke wrote:
You only need to cut a grove in the olive with a hacksaw or Dremel
clone, insert screwdriver and twist job done.

Yes, done that too, but there is the risk of scoring the pipe surface. I
found the spanner and hammer quicker and cleaner.

There's a good possibility of scoring the pipe with your method too.
Unless access is difficult - and then you'd likely have problems with the
spanner/hammer anyway - cutting a groove with a hacksaw then splitting it
is easy to do without marking the pipe. It just needs a little care.
Of course dribble and hacksaws are legendary for causing havoc so perhaps
more than a little care. ;-)

--
* What do they call a coffee break at the Lipton Tea Company? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
John wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
message .uk...

Local plumbers merchant had the Silverline one (copy of the
Monument) & sold it to me for £4:99 - what a result!

Was this a 'local' merchant or a local branch of a nationwide group
as I would like a puller but I am not prepared to pay £20 for (in my
life) an occasionl use tool, but I could run to a fiver!!.

Local independant shop. My thoughts exactly, useful but not worth £20.
Basicaly its only a few bits of threaded brass.

P.S. Will you buy me one in return for beer tokens ;-)

I'll have a look next time I'm in there & see if they have any left. To
be honest I think they have made a cock up on the price.

Problem might be getting it to you, v heavy so postage wont be cheap -
where are you?

Leeds, let me know.

Cheers

John

John wrote:

Problem might be getting it to you, v heavy so postage wont be cheap
- where are you?

Leeds, let me know.

Leeds? Thats export surely? :-)

Great armoury mind.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Mike Clarke wrote in message
...
In article Mark wrote:

You only need to cut a groove in the olive with a hacksaw or Dremel
clone,
insert screwdriver and twist job done.

Yes, done that too, but there is the risk of scoring the pipe surface. I
found the spanner and hammer quicker and cleaner.


It really does not take much skill to cut a groove on an olive without
damaging the pipe underneath.
Any olive that has been even slightly over tightened particularly a brass
one will almost certainly destroy the end of the pipe if you try and remove
it with a puller, or a hammer.
Waste of time and money IMHO, YMMV.



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