Hello,

Hereby i would like to ask your help tot spread around our Energy
Saving Tips. I would like you in advance for your cooperation and
help.
Our mission is easy: let's start to save energy now! That's the best
way to save our climate.

Recently we were asked to translate some of our work to attract
attention of households to the energy problem. Now we finished
tranlation of our Energy Saving Tips for at home and for at work.
Every week the cartoon and additional tips are changed into new ones.

Saving energy is really easy, as long as you know what needs your
attention. Who doesn't want to save energy? Saving energy is the
perfect solution to an ever-growing energy bill. You will find new
energy saving tips on this page every week. Milieunet offers you these
tips for free to help you save energy!

When you act upon all the tips you can reduce your energy bill by 15
to 25 percent. That is easy money. You can save energy at home as well
as at work by changing your habits and behaviour. These energy saving
tips offer you ways to change habits that cost you a lot of money.

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With kind regards, Erik van Erne, managing director

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Milieunet wrote:

Hello,

Hereby i would like to ask your help tot spread around our Energy
Saving Tips. I would like you in advance for your cooperation and
help.
Our mission is easy: let's start to save energy now! That's the best
way to save our climate.

Recently we were asked to translate some of our work to attract
attention of households to the energy problem. Now we finished
tranlation of our Energy Saving Tips for at home and for at work.
Every week the cartoon and additional tips are changed into new ones.

Saving energy is really easy, as long as you know what needs your
attention. Who doesn't want to save energy? Saving energy is the
perfect solution to an ever-growing energy bill. You will find new
energy saving tips on this page every week. Milieunet offers you these
tips for free to help you save energy!

When you act upon all the tips you can reduce your energy bill by 15
to 25 percent. That is easy money. You can save energy at home as well
as at work by changing your habits and behaviour. These energy saving
tips offer you ways to change habits that cost you a lot of money.

All tips are completely free. No login needed. Just take a look.
http://www.stichtingmilieunet.nl/energysavingtips.php


With kind regards, Erik van Erne, managing director

Stichting Milieunet - Ondiep Zuidzijde 2-d - 3551 BW Utrecht -
0031302435303 - - Milieunet Foundation is a
non-profit organisation focused on awareness and change of behaviour
by means of communication about waste, energy, sustainability, nature,
environment, climate, human rights and international development
cooperation. We work for governments, administrations, companies,
organisations and we sell products to individuals. www.stichtingmilieunet.nl


This mail is climate-neutralized by Cleanbits

Most of us dont speak Dutch. The one tip that was in
english 'Buy an A++ rated fridge' doesnt convince and doesnt say
anything that isnt obvious. How about some useful info like how much
money an A++ fridge will save over its lifetime?


NT

wrote:
Milieunet wrote:

Hello,

Hereby i would like to ask your help tot spread around our Energy
Saving Tips. I would like you in advance for your cooperation and
help.
Our mission is easy: let's start to save energy now! That's the best
way to save our climate.

Recently we were asked to translate some of our work to attract
attention of households to the energy problem. Now we finished
tranlation of our Energy Saving Tips for at home and for at work.
Every week the cartoon and additional tips are changed into new ones.

Saving energy is really easy, as long as you know what needs your
attention. Who doesn't want to save energy? Saving energy is the
perfect solution to an ever-growing energy bill. You will find new
energy saving tips on this page every week. Milieunet offers you these
tips for free to help you save energy!

When you act upon all the tips you can reduce your energy bill by 15
to 25 percent. That is easy money. You can save energy at home as well
as at work by changing your habits and behaviour. These energy saving
tips offer you ways to change habits that cost you a lot of money.

All tips are completely free. No login needed. Just take a look.
http://www.stichtingmilieunet.nl/energysavingtips.php


With kind regards, Erik van Erne, managing director

Stichting Milieunet - Ondiep Zuidzijde 2-d - 3551 BW Utrecht -
0031302435303 - - Milieunet Foundation is a
non-profit organisation focused on awareness and change of behaviour
by means of communication about waste, energy, sustainability, nature,
environment, climate, human rights and international development
cooperation. We work for governments, administrations, companies,
organisations and we sell products to individuals. www.stichtingmilieunet.nl


This mail is climate-neutralized by Cleanbits

Most of us dont speak Dutch. The one tip that was in
english 'Buy an A++ rated fridge' doesnt convince and doesnt say
anything that isnt obvious. How about some useful info like how much
money an A++ fridge will save over its lifetime?


NT

Drink warm lager.

On 2007-08-23 12:49:53 +0100, Stuart Noble
said:

Most of us dont speak Dutch. The one tip that was in
english 'Buy an A++ rated fridge' doesnt convince and doesnt say
anything that isnt obvious. How about some useful info like how much
money an A++ fridge will save over its lifetime?


NT

Drink warm lager.

That and the revolting habit in Dutch bars of filling the glass half
full and making the head overflow, then slicing it off with a plastic
scraper.

wrote:

Most of us dont speak Dutch. The one tip that was in
english 'Buy an A++ rated fridge' doesnt convince and doesnt say
anything that isnt obvious. How about some useful info like how much
money an A++ fridge will save over its lifetime?

And then plot that against the life cycle costs of retiring a lower
rated fridge earlier than at full life. Repeat for all energy ratings so
we can see the break points for each.


--
Cheers,

John.

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Milieunet
saying something like:

Hereby i would like to ask your help tot spread around our Energy
Saving Tips. I would like you in advance for your cooperation and
help.
Our mission is easy: let's start to save energy now! That's the best
way to save our climate.

**** off with your spam.
--

Dave

In message , Andy Hall writes
On 2007-08-23 12:49:53 +0100, Stuart Noble
said:
Most of us dont speak Dutch. The one tip that was in
english 'Buy an A++ rated fridge' doesnt convince and doesnt say
anything that isnt obvious. How about some useful info like how much
money an A++ fridge will save over its lifetime?
NT
Drink warm lager.

That and the revolting habit in Dutch bars of filling the glass half
full and making the head overflow, then slicing it off with a plastic
scraper.

Half full, how long did you spend training them ?

Of course, its not fresh if there isn't more froth than beer

.... for some reason


--
geoff

John Rumm wrote:
wrote:

Most of us dont speak Dutch. The one tip that was in
english 'Buy an A++ rated fridge' doesnt convince and doesnt say
anything that isnt obvious. How about some useful info like how much
money an A++ fridge will save over its lifetime?

And then plot that against the life cycle costs of retiring a lower
rated fridge earlier than at full life. Repeat for all energy ratings so
we can see the break points for each.

Nice idea. It should not be hard to do if one had acces to the various
real life energy consumptions of various fridge freezer ratings, but I
dont know what to google..


NT

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Milieunet
saying something like:

Hereby i would like to ask your help tot spread around our Energy
Saving Tips. I would like you in advance for your cooperation and
help.
Our mission is easy: let's start to save energy now! That's the best
way to save our climate.

**** off with your spam.
--

Dave
....just say what you feel!

On 2007-08-23 21:26:46 +0100, raden said:

In message , Andy Hall writes
On 2007-08-23 12:49:53 +0100, Stuart Noble
said:
Most of us dont speak Dutch. The one tip that was in
english 'Buy an A++ rated fridge' doesnt convince and doesnt say
anything that isnt obvious. How about some useful info like how much
money an A++ fridge will save over its lifetime?
NT
Drink warm lager.

That and the revolting habit in Dutch bars of filling the glass half
full and making the head overflow, then slicing it off with a plastic
scraper.

Half full, how long did you spend training them ?

Of course, its not fresh if there isn't more froth than beer

... for some reason

It isn't fresh anyway.....

Generally my opening line is that I'd like a full glass or at least to
the measure line. I think that they just turn up the CO2 and it gives
them extra glasses.

In other countries it seems to be electric pumps and glasses with a line.

Nowadays even the septics can produce a half reasonable ale at the
right temperature and full pretty much to the top.

In message , Andy Hall writes
On 2007-08-23 21:26:46 +0100, raden said:

In message , Andy Hall writes
On 2007-08-23 12:49:53 +0100, Stuart Noble
said:
Most of us dont speak Dutch. The one tip that was in
english 'Buy an A++ rated fridge' doesnt convince and doesnt say
anything that isnt obvious. How about some useful info like how much
money an A++ fridge will save over its lifetime?
NT
Drink warm lager.
That and the revolting habit in Dutch bars of filling the glass
half full and making the head overflow, then slicing it off with a
plastic scraper.
Half full, how long did you spend training them ?
Of course, its not fresh if there isn't more froth than beer
... for some reason

It isn't fresh anyway.....

There, you've gone and spoilt it now


Generally my opening line is that I'd like a full glass or at least to
the measure line. I think that they just turn up the CO2 and it gives
them extra glasses.

I did manage to "train" a dutch barman to pour a full glass in less than
4 days - I rock, me

In other countries it seems to be electric pumps and glasses with a line.

I did once find a pub just outside Arnhem which brewed its own beer and
served from a barrel on the bar. Play your guitar and you get free
drinks all night


Nowadays even the septics can produce a half reasonable ale at the
right temperature and full pretty much to the top.



--
geoff

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-08-23 12:49:53 +0100, Stuart Noble
said:
....
That and the revolting habit in Dutch bars of filling the glass half
full and making the head overflow, then slicing it off with a plastic
scraper.
Ahh, the tourist measure.

On 2007-08-28 00:15:46 +0100, OldBill said:

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-08-23 12:49:53 +0100, Stuart Noble
said:
...
That and the revolting habit in Dutch bars of filling the glass half
full and making the head overflow, then slicing it off with a plastic
scraper.
Ahh, the tourist measure.

Indeed.

If you let them get away with it.

Some get quite upset if you pick them up on it.