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Saw this, thought it worth sharing. :-)
A SENIOR MOMENT I HOPE I HAVE THEM LIKE THIS A 98 year old woman in the UK wrote this to her bank. The bank manager thought it amusing enough to have it published in the Times. Dear Sir, I am writing to thank you for bouncing my cheque with which I endeavoured to pay my plumber last month. By my calculations, three nanoseconds must have elapsed between his presenting the cheque and the arrival in my account of the funds needed to honour it. I refer, of course, to the automatic monthly deposit of my Pension, an arrangement, which, I admit, has been in place for only thirty eight years. You are to be commended for seizing that brief window of opportunity, and also for debiting my account £30 by way of penalty for the inconvenience caused to your bank. My thankfulness springs from the manner in which this incident has caused me to rethink my errant financial ways. I noticed that whereas I personally attend to your telephone calls and letters, when I try to contact you, I am confronted by the impersonal, overcharging, pre-recorded, faceless entity which your bank has become. From now on, I, like you, choose only to deal with a flesh-and-blood person. My mortgage and loan payments will therefore and hereafter no longer be automatic, but will arrive at your bank by cheque, addressed personally and confidentially to an employee at your bank whom you must nominate. Be aware that it is an offence under the Postal Act for any other person to open such an envelope. Please find attached an Application Contact Status which I require your chosen employee to complete. I am sorry it runs to eight pages, but in order that I know as much about him or her as your bank knows about me, there is no alternative. Please note that all copies of his or her medical history must be countersigned by a Solicitor, and the mandatory details of his/her financial situation (income, debts, assets and liabilities) must be accompanied by documented proof. In due course, I will issue your employee with PIN number which he/she must quote in dealings with me. I regret that it cannot be shorter than 28 digits but, again, I have modelled it on the number of button presses required of me to access my account balance on your phone bank service. As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Let me level the playing field even further. When you call me, press buttons as follows: 1 To make an appointment to see me. 2 To query a missing payment. 3 To transfer the call to my living room in case I am there. 4 To transfer the call to my bedroom in case I am sleeping. 5 To transfer the call to my toilet in case I am attending to nature. 6 To transfer the call to my mobile phone if I am not at home. 7 To leave a message on my computer (a password to access my computer is required. A password will be communicated to you at a later date to the Authorized Contact.) 8 To return to the main menu and to listen to options 1 through to 8. 9 To make a general complaint or inquiry, the contact will then be put on hold, pending the attention of my automated answering service. While this may, on occasion, involve a lengthy wait, uplifting music will play for the duration of the call. Regrettably, but again following your example, I must also levy an establishment fee to cover the setting up of this new arrangement. May I wish you a happy, if ever so slightly less prosperous, New Year. Your Humble Client |
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I wonder what the terms of her mortgage are at 98
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Saw this, thought it worth sharing. :-)
Amusing but fake :-} |
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Colin Wilson wrote:
Saw this, thought it worth sharing. :-) Amusing but fake :-} Almost certainly, but just occasionly us minor cogs in the machine need a glimmer of hope that there is some way we can get some small payback for all the iniquities the system impose upon us. VH. |
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"Van Helsing" wrote in message ... Colin Wilson wrote: Saw this, thought it worth sharing. :-) Amusing but fake :-} Almost certainly, but just occasionly us minor cogs in the machine need a glimmer of hope that there is some way we can get some small payback for all the iniquities the system impose upon us. VH. I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. |
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R D S wrote: I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. And we'll all laugh when they impose bank charges for those in credit all the time. -- *I took an IQ test and the results were negative. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:35:10 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , R D S wrote: I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. And we'll all laugh when they impose bank charges for those in credit all the time. I don't think I've ever paid 'bank charges' in some 40+ years, apart from perhaps for a duplicate copy of a statement (I've no recollection why I wanted that!) about 40 years ago... In reality, however, we all pay charges, albeit hidden, out of the difference between borrowing and saving interest. -- Frank Erskine |
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On 2007-08-04 00:30:35 +0100, Frank Erskine
said: On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:35:10 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , R D S wrote: I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. And we'll all laugh when they impose bank charges for those in credit all the time. I don't think I've ever paid 'bank charges' in some 40+ years, apart from perhaps for a duplicate copy of a statement (I've no recollection why I wanted that!) about 40 years ago... In reality, however, we all pay charges, albeit hidden, out of the difference between borrowing and saving interest. Not to mention the margin that they make out of the delay in cheque processing. |
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On 2007-08-03 20:10:49 +0100, "R D S" said:
"Van Helsing" wrote in message ... Colin Wilson wrote: Saw this, thought it worth sharing. :-) Amusing but fake :-} Almost certainly, but just occasionly us minor cogs in the machine need a glimmer of hope that there is some way we can get some small payback for all the iniquities the system impose upon us. VH. I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. You may *think* that you have. In reality, you have been charged in other ways. |
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On 2007-08-03 22:35:10 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
said: In article , R D S wrote: I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. And we'll all laugh when they impose bank charges for those in credit all the time. They already do. The charges are simply hidden in most cases. I had this conversation with my bank manager some while ago. They don't really care whether they make a margin from the customer through charges or from use of their money. Ideally they like customers with a large balance - it doesn't matter to them whether that is positive or negative. If it's negative, they can charge interest directly - if positive they can use the money in the market, and pay the customer less than the market rate, with many types of account, considerably less. Charges are used as the makers of money for customers with comparatively small balances in either direction, and as a proportion of the balance are considerably more. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , R D S wrote: I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. And we'll all laugh when they impose bank charges for those in credit all the time. Its fair enough, they provide a service and it needs to be paid for. I have no problem for paying for banking, after all I use a lot of the services the bank offers. Why I, or anyone else should expect that for free is beyond me, especially if paid for by those with less. |
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R D S wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , R D S wrote: I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. And we'll all laugh when they impose bank charges for those in credit all the time. Its fair enough, they provide a service and it needs to be paid for. I have no problem for paying for banking, after all I use a lot of the services the bank offers. They get their income from the money you effectively lend them for free. Why I, or anyone else should expect that for free is beyond me, especially if paid for by those with less. While actually charging a penalty for going overdrawn is wrong reasonable charges ain't - unless you expect others to subsidise this. Living beyond your means on short term credit always ends in tears. -- *No word in the English language rhymes with month, orange, silver,purple Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-08-04 00:30:35 +0100, Frank Erskine said: On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:35:10 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , R D S wrote: I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. And we'll all laugh when they impose bank charges for those in credit all the time. I don't think I've ever paid 'bank charges' in some 40+ years, apart from perhaps for a duplicate copy of a statement (I've no recollection why I wanted that!) about 40 years ago... In reality, however, we all pay charges, albeit hidden, out of the difference between borrowing and saving interest. Not to mention the margin that they make out of the delay in cheque processing. Royal bank of Scotlang £5.01 billion half year, Barclays £4 billion half year. Obscene. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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On 2007-08-04 17:31:14 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said: Andy Hall wrote: On 2007-08-04 00:30:35 +0100, Frank Erskine said: On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:35:10 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , R D S wrote: I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. And we'll all laugh when they impose bank charges for those in credit all the time. I don't think I've ever paid 'bank charges' in some 40+ years, apart from perhaps for a duplicate copy of a statement (I've no recollection why I wanted that!) about 40 years ago... In reality, however, we all pay charges, albeit hidden, out of the difference between borrowing and saving interest. Not to mention the margin that they make out of the delay in cheque processing. Royal bank of Scotlang £5.01 billion half year, Barclays £4 billion half year. Obscene. Profit is never obscene. It's an investment opportunity and return for the shareholders. Who are the shareholders? Investment funds, pension funds, ISAs, ..... Then the tax man takes a piece. Where does that go? |
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The Medway Handyman wrote: Not to mention the margin that they make out of the delay in cheque processing. Royal bank of Scotlang £5.01 billion half year, Barclays £4 billion half year. Obscene. Why? It could be you make a larger percentage profit on your investment in your own business. -- *Remember: First you pillage, then you burn. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , Andy Hall writes
On 2007-08-04 17:31:14 +0100, "The Medway Handyman" said: Andy Hall wrote: On 2007-08-04 00:30:35 +0100, Frank Erskine said: On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:35:10 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , R D S wrote: I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. And we'll all laugh when they impose bank charges for those in credit all the time. I don't think I've ever paid 'bank charges' in some 40+ years, apart from perhaps for a duplicate copy of a statement (I've no recollection why I wanted that!) about 40 years ago... In reality, however, we all pay charges, albeit hidden, out of the difference between borrowing and saving interest. Not to mention the margin that they make out of the delay in cheque processing. Royal bank of Scotlang £5.01 billion half year, Barclays £4 billion half year. Obscene. Profit is never obscene. Excessive profit is, when there is no realistic alternative -- geoff |
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On 2007-08-04 20:48:44 +0100, raden said:
In message , Andy Hall writes On 2007-08-04 17:31:14 +0100, "The Medway Handyman" said: Andy Hall wrote: On 2007-08-04 00:30:35 +0100, Frank Erskine said: On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:35:10 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , R D S wrote: I have had every penny back from banks who have charged me for defaulting in th elast 6 years. Im not getting into the fair/unfair thing but I got my money back, and I am having the last laugh. And we'll all laugh when they impose bank charges for those in credit all the time. I don't think I've ever paid 'bank charges' in some 40+ years, apart from perhaps for a duplicate copy of a statement (I've no recollection why I wanted that!) about 40 years ago... In reality, however, we all pay charges, albeit hidden, out of the difference between borrowing and saving interest. Not to mention the margin that they make out of the delay in cheque processing. Royal bank of Scotlang £5.01 billion half year, Barclays £4 billion half year. Obscene. Profit is never obscene. Excessive profit is, when there is no realistic alternative What defines 'excessive' though? |
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