The wee beastie arrived in time for the big decking job this week. I'm
simply gobsmacked!

300 sq ft of decking on three levels. This tool has saved me half a day at
least.

Two days spent building the frame with Screwfix 6 x 90 Turbo Gold Coach
Screws - which go in so fast it's just silly. Spent today screwing down the
boards with 4mm x 65mm decking screws. You can drive one in faster than you
can reach into the box to get the next one.

Why didn't someone tell me to buy an impact driver earlier?

Instead of working Saturday to finish the job, I reckon I'll be home by 3pm
Friday.


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01634 717930
07850 597257

On 17 May, 23:00, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

Why didn't someone tell me to buy an impact driver earlier?

Instead of working Saturday to finish the job, I reckon I'll be home by 3pm
Friday.

Some people tried, but it got lost in petty personality wars

wrote:
On 17 May, 23:00, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

Why didn't someone tell me to buy an impact driver earlier?

Instead of working Saturday to finish the job, I reckon I'll be home
by 3pm Friday.

Some people tried, but it got lost in petty personality wars

Dead right there. This NG would be for the better if people tried to help
rather than score points or express their own jaded attitudes .........
there is always someone waiting to have a go at someone.

However, my post was to inform readers about the real benifits of impact
drivers.



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01634 717930
07850 597257

In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
wrote:
On 17 May, 23:00, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

Why didn't someone tell me to buy an impact driver earlier?

Instead of working Saturday to finish the job, I reckon I'll be home
by 3pm Friday.

Some people tried, but it got lost in petty personality wars

Dead right there. This NG would be for the better if people tried to
help rather than score points or express their own jaded attitudes
......... there is always someone waiting to have a go at someone.

However, my post was to inform readers about the real benifits of impact
drivers.

If I remember the original 'discussion' it was over the name of the tool
since an impact driver existed long before this sort of device came on the
market - it's a tool for loosening screws etc via the kinetic energy
obtained from a hammer. I don't remember anyone saying they'd tried these
impact drill drivers and didn't think it worked.

Of course a certain person used to claim he'd got just about every new
thing on the market and it worked perfectly. Like magnetic water softeners
and so on. So when he recommended anything it was a bit like crying wolf...

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

The Medway Handyman wrote in message
...
The wee beastie arrived in time for the big decking job this week. I'm
simply gobsmacked!

Why didn't someone tell me to buy an impact driver earlier?



Plenty of people who have actually used one of these have said how good they
are,
you must listen to the wrong people.



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On 18 May, 06:00, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
The wee beastie arrived in time for the big decking job this week. I'm
simply gobsmacked!

300 sq ft of decking on three levels. This tool has saved me half a day at
least.

Two days spent building the frame with Screwfix 6 x 90 Turbo Gold Coach
Screws - which go in so fast it's just silly. Spent today screwing down the
boards with 4mm x 65mm decking screws. You can drive one in faster than you
can reach into the box to get the next one.

Why didn't someone tell me to buy an impact driver earlier?

Instead of working Saturday to finish the job, I reckon I'll be home by 3pm
Friday.

--
Dave
The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Try it with Square screws ( get them off ebay) no camming out they fly
in, mega impressed with mine de walt imported from the states.
drives big screws straight through sleepers no bother.
super tool

rob wrote:
On 18 May, 06:00, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
The wee beastie arrived in time for the big decking job this week.
I'm simply gobsmacked!

300 sq ft of decking on three levels. This tool has saved me half a
day at least.

Two days spent building the frame with Screwfix 6 x 90 Turbo Gold
Coach Screws - which go in so fast it's just silly. Spent today
screwing down the boards with 4mm x 65mm decking screws. You can
drive one in faster than you can reach into the box to get the next
one.

Why didn't someone tell me to buy an impact driver earlier?

Instead of working Saturday to finish the job, I reckon I'll be home
by 3pm Friday.

Try it with Square screws ( get them off ebay) no camming out they fly
in, mega impressed with mine de walt imported from the states.
drives big screws straight through sleepers no bother.
super tool

I'll check that out - thanks.

I use the Wickes decking screws at the moment, but the price has increased
recently.

I also bought a pack of three Wickes 50mm titanium coated 2pz bits. One
fitted perfectly, one fitted but wouldn't 'lock' and one wouldn't even go
in. Took them back & swapped them for another pack, all of which fitted &
locked perfectly. They seem good, one bit has driven the best part of 1,000
screws with no apparent change in performance.


--
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The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

The Medway Handyman wrote:

The wee beastie arrived in time for the big decking job this week. I'm
simply gobsmacked!

Quite a revelation on big jobs like that aren't they? ;-)

Why didn't someone tell me to buy an impact driver earlier?

I think we did (although there was much noise in there as well).

There is even a FAQ on them (although to be fair it had only been
published in the group as a draft and not included in the power tools
FAQ on the web site yet.

However it does have a home in the wiki now:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Impact_driver

Instead of working Saturday to finish the job, I reckon I'll be home by 3pm
Friday.

Fixed price job I hope! ;-)

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John Rumm wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

The wee beastie arrived in time for the big decking job this week. I'm
simply gobsmacked!

Quite a revelation on big jobs like that aren't they? ;-)

Aint that the truth!

There is even a FAQ on them (although to be fair it had only been
published in the group as a draft and not included in the power tools
FAQ on the web site yet.

And very good it is.

Instead of working Saturday to finish the job, I reckon I'll be home
by 3pm Friday.

Fixed price job I hope! ;-)

Oh yes! And I finished by 2pm. And they paid in £ notes. And I got it
into the bank before closing time!


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The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

In article , The Medway
Handyman writes
John Rumm wrote:

Fixed price job I hope! ;-)

Oh yes! And I finished by 2pm. And they paid in £ notes. And I got it
into the bank before closing time!

You paid _cash_ into the bank shakes head, you have much to learn in
this business ;-)
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fred wrote:
In article , The Medway
Handyman writes
John Rumm wrote:

Fixed price job I hope! ;-)

Oh yes! And I finished by 2pm. And they paid in £ notes. And I
got it into the bank before closing time!

You paid _cash_ into the bank shakes head, you have much to learn in
this business ;-)

You have much to learn about the awesome powers of the tax man!


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01634 717930
07850 597257

The Medway Handyman wrote:

You paid _cash_ into the bank shakes head, you have much to learn in
this business ;-)

You have much to learn about the awesome powers of the tax man!

You mean he is happier when *some* of the cash goes through the books? ;-)

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In article , The Medway
Handyman writes
fred wrote:
In article , The Medway
Handyman writes
John Rumm wrote:

Fixed price job I hope! ;-)

Oh yes! And I finished by 2pm. And they paid in £ notes. And I
got it into the bank before closing time!

You paid _cash_ into the bank shakes head, you have much to learn in
this business ;-)

You have much to learn about the awesome powers of the tax man!

Probably true but after successfully telling Gordon to stick IR35 up his
arse I get a little cocky.
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Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

They really make nails redundant, they go in faster, easier, with less
damage, and can be taken out again - virtually no effort to add a few
more large screw to stiffen up anything that needs it.

Now you're listening to us(!) - I'll recommend this cheapy bit again:

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...63131&id=17228

Once you can put a socket on the front of an impact driver, it extends
it's capabilities quite a bit.

In article .com,
wrote:
Once you can put a socket on the front of an impact driver, it extends
it's capabilities quite a bit.

Actually the first incarnation of this type of device was designed for car
use - to allow easy wheel nut loosening in event of a puncture, etc on the
road. They ran off the car battery and took any standard 1/2" drive
socket. I wonder if the cordless ones have enough 'impact torque' to do
the same job?

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On 18 May, 09:52, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

Actually the first incarnation of this type of device was designed for car
use - to allow easy wheel nut loosening in event of a puncture,

The _first_ incarnation was used on-site in the 1920s with early pre-
stressed concrete work. You could tighten these things up with a
couple of hefty Mohawks and a long spanner, but even they couldn't
undo them from the straining framework afterwards to put the stress
into the concrete.

In article .com,
Andy Dingley wrote:
Actually the first incarnation of this type of device was designed for car
use - to allow easy wheel nut loosening in event of a puncture,

The _first_ incarnation was used on-site in the 1920s with early pre-
stressed concrete work. You could tighten these things up with a
couple of hefty Mohawks and a long spanner, but even they couldn't
undo them from the straining framework afterwards to put the stress
into the concrete.

Ah - right. Perhaps I should have said the first DIY incarnation. ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
wrote:
Once you can put a socket on the front of an impact driver, it extends
it's capabilities quite a bit.

Actually the first incarnation of this type of device was designed for car
use - to allow easy wheel nut loosening in event of a puncture, etc on the
road. They ran off the car battery and took any standard 1/2" drive
socket. I wonder if the cordless ones have enough 'impact torque' to do
the same job?

Not that they were needed if you remembered to grease the studs and not
overtighten the things in the first place.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Actually the first incarnation of this type of device was designed for car
use - to allow easy wheel nut loosening in event of a puncture, etc on the
road. They ran off the car battery and took any standard 1/2" drive
socket. I wonder if the cordless ones have enough 'impact torque' to do
the same job?

The modern day cordless equivalent would be some of the bigger beasties
on this page:

http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/scripts/...act%20Wrenches

The hex drive variant can still pack a fair punch though.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article .com,
wrote:
Once you can put a socket on the front of an impact driver, it
extends it's capabilities quite a bit.

Actually the first incarnation of this type of device was designed
for car use - to allow easy wheel nut loosening in event of a
puncture, etc on the road. They ran off the car battery and took any
standard 1/2" drive socket. I wonder if the cordless ones have enough
'impact torque' to do the same job?

Don't know, but the 12v Makita claims 125 nm.


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The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

wrote:
They really make nails redundant, they go in faster, easier, with less
damage, and can be taken out again - virtually no effort to add a few
more large screw to stiffen up anything that needs it.

Now you're listening to us(!) - I'll recommend this cheapy bit again:

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...63131&id=17228

Once you can put a socket on the front of an impact driver, it extends
it's capabilities quite a bit.

Definately on my order list. I used a nut driver to put in around 200 6mm x
90mm turbo gold coach screws on this job.


--
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The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

On 17 May, 23:00, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
The wee beastie arrived in time for the big decking job this week. I'm
simply gobsmacked!

300 sq ft of decking on three levels. This tool has saved me half a day at
least.

Two days spent building the frame with Screwfix 6 x 90 Turbo Gold Coach
Screws - which go in so fast it's just silly. Spent today screwing down the
boards with 4mm x 65mm decking screws. You can drive one in faster than you
can reach into the box to get the next one.

Why didn't someone tell me to buy an impact driver earlier?

Instead of working Saturday to finish the job, I reckon I'll be home by 3pm
Friday.

--
Dave
The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Too true.

After reading some of the posts here, I thought I would try a Ryobi
unit.

I have recently used it to frame a hipped roof, and instead of the
normal bolt malarky, we used coach screws and the time saving is
unbelievable.

Also, used a Paslode nail gun for the first time too, and again,
incredible tool and time saver.

If anyone has used a Ryobi impact driver and also one form the
supposedly 'better' makes, is there any significant difference?

I also see that Bosch have just bought out a 10.8 lithium 100Nm impact
driver and this is the same size and shape as their excellent
screwdriver. That would definately be worth a look

dg

On Thu, 17 May 2007 23:00:55 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote:

The wee beastie arrived in time for the big decking job this week. I'm
simply gobsmacked!

300 sq ft of decking on three levels. This tool has saved me half a day at
least.

Two days spent building the frame with Screwfix 6 x 90 Turbo Gold Coach
Screws - which go in so fast it's just silly. Spent today screwing down the
boards with 4mm x 65mm decking screws. You can drive one in faster than you
can reach into the box to get the next one.

Why didn't someone tell me to buy an impact driver earlier?

Instead of working Saturday to finish the job, I reckon I'll be home by 3pm
Friday.
Good on ya Dave, you'll never go
back to the other none impact things.

I run a 14.5 volt Makita 6935FD.
I had my old 12 volt one (about 5 years old and still on
the original pair of batteries) pinched and replaced
it straight away.
There's an old saying, tools don't cost you
money they make you money.

Very true in this case.
First job I used it for was wandering over
a two story roof belting 12g pan head teks though
1.2mm gal bracing straps and 2.0mm steel purlins.
It sheared a couple of tek bits and half a dozen screws
but it must have saved me a days work at least, dragging
a lead around a roof at my age is no fun I'll tell you.
I bought heaps of new bits to do the job and I'm still
using what's left after two years.
When another driver starts skidding and stuffing up
screws and bits, the impact cuts in and keeps driving eh!

Regards

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