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3/4" pipe lagging
I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split
sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? Cheers, Ben |
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Ben wrote:
I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? Cheers, Ben just use the 22mm lagging and apply tape every 18 inches to keep it in place |
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3/4" pipe lagging
On 15 Mar, 21:36, "Phil L" wrote:
Ben wrote: I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? Cheers, Ben just use the 22mm lagging and apply tape every 18 inches to keep it in place I guess though that if the lagging is loose then looses will be increased due to air movements within the insulation... |
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On 15 Mar, 21:36, "Phil L" wrote: Ben wrote: I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? Cheers, Ben just use the 22mm lagging and apply tape every 18 inches to keep it in place I guess though that if the lagging is loose then looses will be increased due to air movements within the insulation... No, because the pipe will heat the little bit of air within the insulation and that cannot escape, provided you tape each joint too. |
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3/4" pipe lagging
On 15 Mar, 22:06, "Phil L" wrote:
Ben wrote: On 15 Mar, 21:36, "Phil L" wrote: Ben wrote: I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? Cheers, Ben just use the 22mm lagging and apply tape every 18 inches to keep it in place I guess though that if the lagging is loose then looses will be increased due to air movements within the insulation... No, because the pipe will heat the little bit of air within the insulation and that cannot escape, provided you tape each joint too. Ah yes - therein lies the problem. The pipes are very inaccessible, so the only way to fit the lagging is to push it on from one end, which leaves no way of sealing the split. I may use 15mm lagging which is better than nothing, although it only covers about 75% of the surface... Ben |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Ben wrote: I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? Cheers, Ben I'm puzzled to know what type of pipe you've got! The old 1/2" copper pipe was virtually the same size outside as currently used 15mm pipe. [Imperial copper is sized by the nominal bore, and metric by the external diameter]. Likewise, 3/4" copper was virtually the same size as 22mm. Even 1/2" (bore) iron pipe had an external diameter very similar to 22mm. So I'm surprised that the lagging doesn't fit. So what *have* you got - lead maybe? -- Cheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:11:18 -0700, Ben wrote:
On 15 Mar, 22:06, "Phil L" wrote: Ben wrote: On 15 Mar, 21:36, "Phil L" wrote: Ben wrote: I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? Cheers, Ben just use the 22mm lagging and apply tape every 18 inches to keep it in place I guess though that if the lagging is loose then looses will be increased due to air movements within the insulation... No, because the pipe will heat the little bit of air within the insulation and that cannot escape, provided you tape each joint too. Ah yes - therein lies the problem. The pipes are very inaccessible, so the only way to fit the lagging is to push it on from one end, which leaves no way of sealing the split. I may use 15mm lagging which is better than nothing, although it only covers about 75% of the surface... Ben =============================== Use a very sharp utility knife (plus straight edge if necessary) to cut a thin slice off one edge of the slit / opening. Experiment with the cut to find out the correct amount to remove to produce a snug fit. Tape as much as you can reach at the suggested distances. Cic. -- ================================ Testing UBUNTU Linux Everything working so far ================================ |
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"Ben" wrote in message ups.com... I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? Cheers, Ben 3/4" pipe is still in use in the air conditioning HVAC arena - you may get some there, but in practical terms 22mm and the odd tywrap to hold it in place is probably a better real world solution. AWEM |
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On 15 Mar, 22:11, "Roger Mills" wrote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Ben wrote: I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? Cheers, Ben I'm puzzled to know what type of pipe you've got! The old 1/2" copper pipe was virtually the same size outside as currently used 15mm pipe. [Imperial copper is sized by the nominal bore, and metric by the external diameter]. Likewise, 3/4" copper was virtually the same size as 22mm. Even 1/2" (bore) iron pipe had an external diameter very similar to 22mm. So I'm surprised that the lagging doesn't fit. So what *have* you got - lead maybe? -- Cheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! Certainly not lead. Some are 22m, because that fits perfectly. Th rest are smaler, and the 22mmlagging is very loose, but the 15mm aggingis too small. I'll check the rest and let you know... Cheers, Ben |
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On 15 Mar, 22:11, "Roger Mills" wrote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Ben wrote: I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? Cheers, Ben I'm puzzled to know what type of pipe you've got! The old 1/2" copper pipe was virtually the same size outside as currently used 15mm pipe. [Imperial copper is sized by the nominal bore, and metric by the external diameter]. Likewise, 3/4" copper was virtually the same size as 22mm. Even 1/2" (bore) iron pipe had an external diameter very similar to 22mm. So I'm surprised that the lagging doesn't fit. So what *have* you got - lead maybe? -- Cheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! Ok - that's odd. It seems that as I had initially thought my pipes were 22mm and 28mm. However, he 28mm lagging is loose on the 22mm pipes, and the 22mm lagging is loose on the 22mm pipes. But the 22mm fits the 28 perfectly :-) Oh well.... |
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Ben wrote:
Ok - that's odd. It seems that as I had initially thought my pipes were 22mm and 28mm. However, he 28mm lagging is loose on the 22mm pipes, and the 22mm lagging is loose on the 22mm pipes. But the 22mm fits the 28 perfectly :-) Oh well.... Have you been sniffing stuff you shouldn't have? -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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On 15 Mar 2007 15:44:49 -0700, "Ben"
mused: Ok - that's odd. It seems that as I had initially thought my pipes were 22mm and 28mm. However, he 28mm lagging is loose on the 22mm pipes, and the 22mm lagging is loose on the 22mm pipes. But the 22mm fits the 28 perfectly :-) You haven't been buying the cheap crap from some DIY hovel have you? I've found some of these to be very 'random'. -- Regards, Stuart. |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:36:41 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote: |!Ben wrote: |! I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split |! sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the |! pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, |! but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems |! to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? |! |! Cheers, |! |! Ben |! |!just use the 22mm lagging and apply tape every 18 inches to keep it in place. Cable ties do the same job and last longer. -- Dave Fawthrop sf hyphenologist.co.uk 165 *Free* SF ebooks. 165 Sci Fi books on CDROM, from Project Gutenberg http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page Completely Free to any address in the UK. Contact me on the *above* email address. |
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Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:36:41 GMT, "Phil L" wrote: !Ben wrote: ! I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split ! sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the ! pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, ! but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems ! to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? ! ! Cheers, ! ! Ben ! !just use the 22mm lagging and apply tape every 18 inches to keep it in place. Cable ties do the same job and last longer. They do, but the thinner ones can cut into the lagging if tightened up too much |
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Ben wrote
On 15 Mar, 22:11, "Roger Mills" wrote: In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Ben wrote: I have some hot water pipes that I want to lag. I tried a bit of split sided lagging and 15mm was too tight - it wouldn't close over the pipe, while 22m was very loose. I haven't got a set of calipers on me, but I suspect it may be 3/4" pipe. Nobody this side of the pond seems to stock imperial sizes any more. Any suggestions? (snip) Ok - that's odd. It seems that as I had initially thought my pipes were 22mm and 28mm. However, he 28mm lagging is loose on the 22mm pipes, and the 22mm lagging is loose on the 22mm pipes. But the 22mm fits the 28 perfectly :-) I had something similar with tap washers not so long ago and came to the same conclusion - ie : Sod it. -- Roger Hunt |
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