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yikes!

it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution.

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On 15 Mar, 09:32, "google2001" wrote:
yikes!

it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution.


Hah ! Mr Mcloud was having a right barney with the bloke near the
end, saying sarky things like "you could have tried that well-known
concept called 'design'" etc. The thing was so ugly no mooring would
have it. I hope they got everything sorted out, since we never got to
find out.
I wonder if such a home is a good investment - cant see it myself. I
also wondered what the building regs are for house-boats.
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I wonder if such a home is a good investment - cant see it myself.


If I'd spent £80k, and all I had to show for it was that thing, I would
have been so ****ed off (with myself).


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On 15 Mar, 09:32, "google2001" wrote:
yikes!

it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution.


Hah ! Mr Mcloud was having a right barney with the bloke near the
end, saying sarky things like "you could have tried that well-known
concept called 'design'" etc. The thing was so ugly no mooring would
have it.


Actually I think despite all odds, the fundamental 'design' turned out
suprisingly elegant.
Okay some of those windows were just ridiculous, and the process was
laughable.
But put next to some tired green GRP motor cruiser thingy, its grandeur was
in another league.
So I don't really understand the mariner's objections, other than
conservatism in perhaps the more salubrious ones.

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On 15 Mar, 09:32, "google2001" wrote:
yikes!

it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution.


Hah ! Mr Mcloud was having a right barney with the bloke near the
end, saying sarky things like "you could have tried that

well-known
concept called 'design'" etc. The thing was so ugly no mooring

would
have it.


Actually I think despite all odds, the fundamental 'design' turned

out
suprisingly elegant.
Okay some of those windows were just ridiculous, and the process was
laughable.
But put next to some tired green GRP motor cruiser thingy, its

grandeur was
in another league.
So I don't really understand the mariner's objections, other than
conservatism in perhaps the more salubrious ones.

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I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the time!!),
but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the barge was damaging
his jetty? My first reaction when I saw the height of the aluminium
cladding 'steeple', was that it would be dangerous in a high wind - a
huge area at a significant height. Perhaps it was banging it into the
piles when the wind blew a tad strong and it heeled over.

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On 15 Mar, 09:32, "google2001" wrote:
yikes!

it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution.

Hah ! Mr Mcloud was having a right barney with the bloke near the
end, saying sarky things like "you could have tried that

well-known
concept called 'design'" etc. The thing was so ugly no mooring

would
have it.


Actually I think despite all odds, the fundamental 'design' turned

out
suprisingly elegant.
Okay some of those windows were just ridiculous, and the process was
laughable.
But put next to some tired green GRP motor cruiser thingy, its

grandeur was
in another league.
So I don't really understand the mariner's objections, other than
conservatism in perhaps the more salubrious ones.

--
Mike W



I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the time!!),
but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the barge was damaging
his jetty? My first reaction when I saw the height of the aluminium
cladding 'steeple', was that it would be dangerous in a high wind - a
huge area at a significant height. Perhaps it was banging it into the
piles when the wind blew a tad strong and it heeled over.



Yes that was his complaint. Unfortunately no further details were given
although your suggestion occurred to me as well. He may, of course, with his
professed aversion to rules etc, ****ed the bloke off in some other way and
that was an excuse. They did strike my as the sort of couple it would either
be brilliant to have next door, or appalling!


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If I'd spent £80k, and all I had to show for it was that thing, I
would have been so ****ed off (with myself).


Looking at it I wondered what he would be able
to get for it in, say, 5 years time. It really
didn't look like a good capital investment at all.

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"Andrew Mawson" wrote
I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the
time!!), but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the
barge was damaging his jetty? My first reaction when I saw the
height of the aluminium cladding 'steeple', was that it would
be dangerous in a high wind - a huge area at a significant
height. Perhaps it was banging it into the piles when the wind
blew a tad strong and it heeled over.



Yes that was his complaint. Unfortunately no further details were
given although your suggestion occurred to me as well. He may,
of course, with his professed aversion to rules etc, ****ed the
bloke off in some other way and that was an excuse. They did
strike my as the sort of couple it would either be brilliant to
have next door, or appalling!


I thought he fell out with the original marina owner
because his new builder committed the cardinal sin of
moving someone else's houseboat without any permission.

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Yes that was his complaint. Unfortunately no further details were given
although your suggestion occurred to me as well. He may, of course, with his
professed aversion to rules etc, ****ed the bloke off in some other way and
that was an excuse.


Or the other "residents" were leaning on him to get shot of the "eyesore".


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yikes!

it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution.


Well no guesses to where the concept came from hey! it was all Lucy Lous
idea,after all thats what some chinese live on don't they...Junk :-)




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Bob Mannix wrote:

"Andrew Mawson" wrote
I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the
time!!), but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the
barge was damaging his jetty? My first reaction when I saw the
height of the aluminium cladding 'steeple', was that it would
be dangerous in a high wind - a huge area at a significant
height. Perhaps it was banging it into the piles when the wind
blew a tad strong and it heeled over.



Yes that was his complaint. Unfortunately no further details were
given although your suggestion occurred to me as well. He may,
of course, with his professed aversion to rules etc, ****ed the
bloke off in some other way and that was an excuse. They did
strike my as the sort of couple it would either be brilliant to
have next door, or appalling!


I thought he fell out with the original marina owner
because his new builder committed the cardinal sin of
moving someone else's houseboat without any permission.


He did but this bit of the thread was about eviction from the place he then
went.


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also wondered what the building regs are for house-boats.


There aren't any. That point was made repeatedly in the programme.


This statement needs to tempered with the estate Agent's favourite mantra;-
location, location. location. Some 'authorities' such as those in charge of
the non-tidal Thanes have very strict regulations. Particularly those
regulations concerning sewage.

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On 2007-03-15, sm_jamieson wrote:

I
also wondered what the building regs are for house-boats.

There aren't any. That point was made repeatedly in the programme.


This statement needs to tempered with the estate Agent's favourite
mantra;-
location, location. location. Some 'authorities' such as those in charge
of
the non-tidal Thanes have very strict regulations. Particularly those
regulations concerning sewage.


Not that I'd want to live in a floating Nissan hut on a mudbank,
anyway. Have you smelt a mudbank in high summer?


Aye, a Nissen hut would have been bad enough but a hut made in Japan....
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Andrew Mawson"
saying something like:

I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the time!!),
but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the barge was damaging
his jetty? My first reaction when I saw the height of the aluminium
cladding 'steeple', was that it would be dangerous in a high wind - a
huge area at a significant height.


It struck me that the high sail area of that entrance tower would make
manoeuvrubg interesting in windy conditions.

Perhaps it was banging it into the
piles when the wind blew a tad strong and it heeled over.


I'd imagine any yard owner would object to something banging into his
piles.
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On 2007-03-15, sm_jamieson wrote:

I
also wondered what the building regs are for house-boats.

There aren't any. That point was made repeatedly in the programme.


This statement needs to tempered with the estate Agent's favourite
mantra;-
location, location. location. Some 'authorities' such as those in charge
of
the non-tidal Thanes have very strict regulations. Particularly those
regulations concerning sewage.


Not that I'd want to live in a floating Nissan hut on a mudbank,
anyway. Have you smelt a mudbank in high summer?



Yep: roughly twice a day .... at low tides +/- 4 hours.

The exposed sea/river bed at Littlehampton is particularly 'pungent'.

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It struck me that the high sail area of that entrance tower would make
manoeuvrubg interesting in windy conditions.


Since the thing was un-powered, I doubt that they intend to move it very
often (mooring owners may have other ideas).

I did wonder if they applied the same approach to their work.


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yikes!

it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution.

He seemed to have an incredible ability to fall out with everyone


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google2001 writes
yikes!

it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution.

He seemed to have an incredible ability to fall out with everyone


And an ability to make money stretch nowhere fast! £80K for that? You
could build a three bed semi for that.

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He seemed to have an incredible ability to fall out with everyone


"The spaceman and the cadet" sprung to mind over that pair.

Impressions were "feet firmly planted" ....
.... "on some planet somewhere, just not here" :-(

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He seemed to have an incredible ability to fall out with everyone

I think the C4 website said they were social workers - I think it's part
of the job description...

"The spaceman and the cadet" sprung to mind over that pair.
Impressions were "feet firmly planted" ....
.... "on some planet somewhere, just not here" :-(


I saw the pictures on the website - looks horrendous, and we can only
hope it sinks, perhaps even taking them with it in the process :-}


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Actually I think despite all odds, the fundamental 'design' turned

out
suprisingly elegant.
Okay some of those windows were just ridiculous, and the process was
laughable.
But put next to some tired green GRP motor cruiser thingy, its

grandeur was
in another league.
So I don't really understand the mariner's objections, other than
conservatism in perhaps the more salubrious ones.

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Mike W



I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the time!!),
but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the barge was damaging
his jetty?


Yes, but I was referring to the general difficulty they faced finding places
in the first place.

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