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yikes!
it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution. |
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On 15 Mar, 09:32, "google2001" wrote:
yikes! it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution. Hah ! Mr Mcloud was having a right barney with the bloke near the end, saying sarky things like "you could have tried that well-known concept called 'design'" etc. The thing was so ugly no mooring would have it. I hope they got everything sorted out, since we never got to find out. I wonder if such a home is a good investment - cant see it myself. I also wondered what the building regs are for house-boats. Simon. |
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sm_jamieson wrote:
I wonder if such a home is a good investment - cant see it myself. If I'd spent £80k, and all I had to show for it was that thing, I would have been so ****ed off (with myself). -- Grunff http://www.greendoug.com - a forum for all things environmental |
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"sm_jamieson" wrote in message ups.com... On 15 Mar, 09:32, "google2001" wrote: yikes! it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution. Hah ! Mr Mcloud was having a right barney with the bloke near the end, saying sarky things like "you could have tried that well-known concept called 'design'" etc. The thing was so ugly no mooring would have it. Actually I think despite all odds, the fundamental 'design' turned out suprisingly elegant. Okay some of those windows were just ridiculous, and the process was laughable. But put next to some tired green GRP motor cruiser thingy, its grandeur was in another league. So I don't really understand the mariner's objections, other than conservatism in perhaps the more salubrious ones. -- Mike W |
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"visionset" wrote in message ... "sm_jamieson" wrote in message ups.com... On 15 Mar, 09:32, "google2001" wrote: yikes! it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution. Hah ! Mr Mcloud was having a right barney with the bloke near the end, saying sarky things like "you could have tried that well-known concept called 'design'" etc. The thing was so ugly no mooring would have it. Actually I think despite all odds, the fundamental 'design' turned out suprisingly elegant. Okay some of those windows were just ridiculous, and the process was laughable. But put next to some tired green GRP motor cruiser thingy, its grandeur was in another league. So I don't really understand the mariner's objections, other than conservatism in perhaps the more salubrious ones. -- Mike W I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the time!!), but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the barge was damaging his jetty? My first reaction when I saw the height of the aluminium cladding 'steeple', was that it would be dangerous in a high wind - a huge area at a significant height. Perhaps it was banging it into the piles when the wind blew a tad strong and it heeled over. AWEM |
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"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message ... "visionset" wrote in message ... "sm_jamieson" wrote in message ups.com... On 15 Mar, 09:32, "google2001" wrote: yikes! it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution. Hah ! Mr Mcloud was having a right barney with the bloke near the end, saying sarky things like "you could have tried that well-known concept called 'design'" etc. The thing was so ugly no mooring would have it. Actually I think despite all odds, the fundamental 'design' turned out suprisingly elegant. Okay some of those windows were just ridiculous, and the process was laughable. But put next to some tired green GRP motor cruiser thingy, its grandeur was in another league. So I don't really understand the mariner's objections, other than conservatism in perhaps the more salubrious ones. -- Mike W I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the time!!), but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the barge was damaging his jetty? My first reaction when I saw the height of the aluminium cladding 'steeple', was that it would be dangerous in a high wind - a huge area at a significant height. Perhaps it was banging it into the piles when the wind blew a tad strong and it heeled over. Yes that was his complaint. Unfortunately no further details were given although your suggestion occurred to me as well. He may, of course, with his professed aversion to rules etc, ****ed the bloke off in some other way and that was an excuse. They did strike my as the sort of couple it would either be brilliant to have next door, or appalling! -- Bob Mannix (anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not) |
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Grunff wrote: If I'd spent £80k, and all I had to show for it was that thing, I would have been so ****ed off (with myself). Looking at it I wondered what he would be able to get for it in, say, 5 years time. It really didn't look like a good capital investment at all. -- Tony Williams. |
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Bob Mannix wrote: "Andrew Mawson" wrote I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the time!!), but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the barge was damaging his jetty? My first reaction when I saw the height of the aluminium cladding 'steeple', was that it would be dangerous in a high wind - a huge area at a significant height. Perhaps it was banging it into the piles when the wind blew a tad strong and it heeled over. Yes that was his complaint. Unfortunately no further details were given although your suggestion occurred to me as well. He may, of course, with his professed aversion to rules etc, ****ed the bloke off in some other way and that was an excuse. They did strike my as the sort of couple it would either be brilliant to have next door, or appalling! I thought he fell out with the original marina owner because his new builder committed the cardinal sin of moving someone else's houseboat without any permission. -- Tony Williams. |
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Bob Mannix wrote:
Yes that was his complaint. Unfortunately no further details were given although your suggestion occurred to me as well. He may, of course, with his professed aversion to rules etc, ****ed the bloke off in some other way and that was an excuse. Or the other "residents" were leaning on him to get shot of the "eyesore". -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"google2001" wrote in message ups.com... yikes! it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution. Well no guesses to where the concept came from hey! it was all Lucy Lous idea,after all thats what some chinese live on don't they...Junk :-) |
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"Tony Williams" wrote in message ... In article , Bob Mannix wrote: "Andrew Mawson" wrote I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the time!!), but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the barge was damaging his jetty? My first reaction when I saw the height of the aluminium cladding 'steeple', was that it would be dangerous in a high wind - a huge area at a significant height. Perhaps it was banging it into the piles when the wind blew a tad strong and it heeled over. Yes that was his complaint. Unfortunately no further details were given although your suggestion occurred to me as well. He may, of course, with his professed aversion to rules etc, ****ed the bloke off in some other way and that was an excuse. They did strike my as the sort of couple it would either be brilliant to have next door, or appalling! I thought he fell out with the original marina owner because his new builder committed the cardinal sin of moving someone else's houseboat without any permission. He did but this bit of the thread was about eviction from the place he then went. -- Bob Mannix (anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not) |
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"Huge" wrote in message ... On 2007-03-15, sm_jamieson wrote: I also wondered what the building regs are for house-boats. There aren't any. That point was made repeatedly in the programme. This statement needs to tempered with the estate Agent's favourite mantra;- location, location. location. Some 'authorities' such as those in charge of the non-tidal Thanes have very strict regulations. Particularly those regulations concerning sewage. -- Brian |
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"Huge" wrote in message ... On 2007-03-15, Brian Sharrock wrote: "Huge" wrote in message ... On 2007-03-15, sm_jamieson wrote: I also wondered what the building regs are for house-boats. There aren't any. That point was made repeatedly in the programme. This statement needs to tempered with the estate Agent's favourite mantra;- location, location. location. Some 'authorities' such as those in charge of the non-tidal Thanes have very strict regulations. Particularly those regulations concerning sewage. Not that I'd want to live in a floating Nissan hut on a mudbank, anyway. Have you smelt a mudbank in high summer? Aye, a Nissen hut would have been bad enough but a hut made in Japan.... ) -- Bob Mannix (anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not) |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Andrew Mawson" saying something like: I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the time!!), but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the barge was damaging his jetty? My first reaction when I saw the height of the aluminium cladding 'steeple', was that it would be dangerous in a high wind - a huge area at a significant height. It struck me that the high sail area of that entrance tower would make manoeuvrubg interesting in windy conditions. Perhaps it was banging it into the piles when the wind blew a tad strong and it heeled over. I'd imagine any yard owner would object to something banging into his piles. -- Dave |
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"Huge" wrote in message ... On 2007-03-15, Brian Sharrock wrote: "Huge" wrote in message ... On 2007-03-15, sm_jamieson wrote: I also wondered what the building regs are for house-boats. There aren't any. That point was made repeatedly in the programme. This statement needs to tempered with the estate Agent's favourite mantra;- location, location. location. Some 'authorities' such as those in charge of the non-tidal Thanes have very strict regulations. Particularly those regulations concerning sewage. Not that I'd want to live in a floating Nissan hut on a mudbank, anyway. Have you smelt a mudbank in high summer? Yep: roughly twice a day .... at low tides +/- 4 hours. The exposed sea/river bed at Littlehampton is particularly 'pungent'. -- Brian |
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In article , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes It struck me that the high sail area of that entrance tower would make manoeuvrubg interesting in windy conditions. Since the thing was un-powered, I doubt that they intend to move it very often (mooring owners may have other ideas). I did wonder if they applied the same approach to their work. Adrian -- To Reply : replace "news" with "adrian" and "nospam" with "ffoil" Sorry for the rigmarole, If I want spam, I'll go to the shops Every time someone says "I don't believe in trolls", another one dies. |
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google2001 writes yikes! it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution. He seemed to have an incredible ability to fall out with everyone -- geoff |
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raden wrote:
In message . com, google2001 writes yikes! it was a very nice idea, but with a somewhat flawed execution. He seemed to have an incredible ability to fall out with everyone And an ability to make money stretch nowhere fast! £80K for that? You could build a three bed semi for that. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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In message , raden
writes He seemed to have an incredible ability to fall out with everyone "The spaceman and the cadet" sprung to mind over that pair. Impressions were "feet firmly planted" .... .... "on some planet somewhere, just not here" :-( Someone |
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He seemed to have an incredible ability to fall out with everyone
I think the C4 website said they were social workers - I think it's part of the job description... "The spaceman and the cadet" sprung to mind over that pair. Impressions were "feet firmly planted" .... .... "on some planet somewhere, just not here" :-( I saw the pictures on the website - looks horrendous, and we can only hope it sinks, perhaps even taking them with it in the process :-} |
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"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message ... Actually I think despite all odds, the fundamental 'design' turned out suprisingly elegant. Okay some of those windows were just ridiculous, and the process was laughable. But put next to some tired green GRP motor cruiser thingy, its grandeur was in another league. So I don't really understand the mariner's objections, other than conservatism in perhaps the more salubrious ones. -- Mike W I may have misunderstood (others talking in the room at the time!!), but wasn't the 'marina' owner complaining that the barge was damaging his jetty? Yes, but I was referring to the general difficulty they faced finding places in the first place. -- Mike W |
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