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hi first time posting so sorry for any mistakes.im boarding my loft and read many of the posts about it but still not sure about mine.can someone tell me if the whole lot will come down if the kids play in it when finished.sending some pics with luck if done right thanks.
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daz5000 wrote: hi first time posting so sorry for any mistakes.im boarding my loft and read many of the posts about it but still not sure about mine.can someone tell me if the whole lot will come down if the kids play in it when finished.sending some pics with luck if done right thanks. Dalek Voice "Insufficent Data" :-) The size of the timbers isn't very clear in those pics. How deep are the joists (the timbers to which the ceiling is attached)? And what is the maximum san between supporting walls. Dave |
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ill try and explain the best i can. the joists are 2 inches across and 3 down.these then have 2 joists running across them on both sides which are 3 by 2 as well.the supporting wall in the middle to the outside wall is 142 inches down and 71 inches to the front of house and 117 inches to the back.sorry all are in inches but tape measure is inches and cm.cheers |
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daz5000 wrote: dcbwhaley Wrote: daz5000 wrote: - hi first time posting so sorry for any mistakes.im boarding my loft and read many of the posts about it but still not sure about mine.can someone tell me if the whole lot will come down if the kids play in it when finished.sending some pics with luck if done right thanks. The size of the timbers isn't very clear in those pics. How deep are the joists (the timbers to which the ceiling is attached)? And what is the maximum san between supporting walls. I'll try and explain the best I can. The joists are 3 x 2's. These then have 2 joists running across them on both sides which are 3 by 2 as well. The supporting wall in the middle to the outside wall is 142 inches down and 71 inches to the front of house and 117 inches to the back. I take it that the "142 inches" long wall is poking through the loft? 3 x 2's are not going to be big enough to take any movement nor much weight for very long without flexing. At a guess I'd say you have plasterwork made up of sticks and limed sand. (I've forgotten what that's called but it is late Saturday and I am sober, so such things are to be expected under the circumstances.) Anyway the answer is: No. |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:44:33 +0100, a particular chimpanzee named
daz5000 randomly hit the keyboard and produced: hi first time posting so sorry for any mistakes.im boarding my loft and read many of the posts about it but still not sure about mine.can someone tell me if the whole lot will come down if the kids play in it when finished.sending some pics with luck if done right thanks. http://www.diybanter.com/attachment....tachmentid=190 http://www.diybanter.com/attachment....tachmentid=191 http://www.diybanter.com/attachment....tachmentid=192 You haven't shown on the photos where the fixed stair (not a retractable ladder) comes down into the enclosed stairway, nor whether the stair is fully enclosed at first floor and ground floor level or whether it is open to the lounge or kitchen. You also don't show where your alternative escape window is in the roof space or whether all the doors from the second floor to the final exit are 30-minutes fire-resisting. Neither can I see whether you have installed mains-wired smoke detectors to all storeys. If all that happens is they fall through the floor, then they'd be luckier than if they were trapped up there in a fire. -- Hugo Nebula "If no-one on the internet wants a piece of this, just how far from the pack have you strayed?" |
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hi first time posting so sorry for any mistakes.im boarding my loft and
read many of the posts about it but still not sure about mine.can someone tell me if the whole lot will come down if the kids play in it when finished.sending some pics with luck if done right thanks. No. The space is definitely not suitable for habitable accommodation. Not only is the floor structure woefully inadequete for anything other than light storage, the fire safety aspects are frightening. If there was a fire elsewhere in the house, the children would die. Christian. |
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daz5000 wrote:
Weatherlawyer Wrote: daz5000 wrote:- dcbwhaley Wrote:- daz5000 wrote: hi first time posting so sorry for any mistakes.im boarding my loft Well, you'd best put that on pause cos 2x3 isnt meaty enough for much. For 71" span you could add 2x3s on top of the existing 2x3s, glued and screwed every 6", to make it usable. If the unsupported span were 142" thats... about 12', 2x4 additions would be better. Neither of these are anywhere modern requirements though, but such requirements concern millimetres of deflection rather than being about safety - wood is a bit springy. Fire escape is another matter to attend to. NT |
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