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I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US.
These days correction fluids like Tippex seem to have been reformulated compared to several years ago. I think the old chemicals used were too hazardous and the dilution fluid for them was something hazardous like 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. ---- I have some new style Tippex Rapid and it has started to thicken. See http://tinyurl.com/qyht6 What household solvent can I use to dilute it? (1) Isopropyl alcohol doesn't do it. (2) Acetone didn't seem to work. (3) I think ethyl acetate (nail polish remover) might have worked although it was getting hard to tell after 1 and 2. But it smells hazardous. What can be used? -------------- PS: Note that the other Tippex correction fluid is Tippex Aqua. See http://tinyurl.com/rpwz9 |
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![]() Andy wrote: I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US. These days correction fluids like Tippex seem to have been reformulated compared to several years ago. I think the old chemicals used were too hazardous and the dilution fluid for them was something hazardous like 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. ---- I have some new style Tippex Rapid and it has started to thicken. See http://tinyurl.com/qyht6 What household solvent can I use to dilute it? (1) Isopropyl alcohol doesn't do it. (2) Acetone didn't seem to work. (3) I think ethyl acetate (nail polish remover) might have worked although it was getting hard to tell after 1 and 2. But it smells hazardous. What can be used? -------------- PS: Note that the other Tippex correction fluid is Tippex Aqua. See http://tinyurl.com/rpwz9 They banned tippex thinners when I was in school due to the kids sniffing it !! |
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On 2006-09-27 17:59:06 +0100, "Staffbull" said:
Andy wrote: I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US. These days correction fluids like Tippex seem to have been reformulated compared to several years ago. I think the old chemicals used were too hazardous and the dilution fluid for them was something hazardous like 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. ---- I have some new style Tippex Rapid and it has started to thicken. See http://tinyurl.com/qyht6 What household solvent can I use to dilute it? (1) Isopropyl alcohol doesn't do it. (2) Acetone didn't seem to work. (3) I think ethyl acetate (nail polish remover) might have worked although it was getting hard to tell after 1 and 2. But it smells hazardous. What can be used? -------------- PS: Note that the other Tippex correction fluid is Tippex Aqua. See http://tinyurl.com/rpwz9 They banned tippex thinners when I was in school due to the kids sniffing it !! IIRC, the correct, and politically incorrect solvent for proper Tippex (not the girl's school version) is Toluene. Apparently it clears sinuses as well.... |
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![]() "Staffbull" wrote in message oups.com... Andy wrote: I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US. These days correction fluids like Tippex seem to have been reformulated compared to several years ago. I think the old chemicals used were too hazardous and the dilution fluid for them was something hazardous like 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. ---- I have some new style Tippex Rapid and it has started to thicken. See http://tinyurl.com/qyht6 What household solvent can I use to dilute it? (1) Isopropyl alcohol doesn't do it. (2) Acetone didn't seem to work. (3) I think ethyl acetate (nail polish remover) might have worked although it was getting hard to tell after 1 and 2. But it smells hazardous. What can be used? -------------- PS: Note that the other Tippex correction fluid is Tippex Aqua. See http://tinyurl.com/rpwz9 They banned tippex thinners when I was in school due to the kids sniffing it !! The good old days |
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![]() "magicman" wrote in message ... "Staffbull" wrote in message oups.com... Andy wrote: I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US. These days correction fluids like Tippex seem to have been reformulated compared to several years ago. I think the old chemicals used were too hazardous and the dilution fluid for them was something hazardous like 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. ---- I have some new style Tippex Rapid and it has started to thicken. See http://tinyurl.com/qyht6 What household solvent can I use to dilute it? (1) Isopropyl alcohol doesn't do it. (2) Acetone didn't seem to work. (3) I think ethyl acetate (nail polish remover) might have worked although it was getting hard to tell after 1 and 2. But it smells hazardous. What can be used? They banned tippex thinners when I was in school due to the kids sniffing it !! The good old days Nah, in the good old days, they used mimeograph for school duplication. A good snootful of chlorinated ink solvent really put one in the mood for excellent performance on an exam. Eric Lucas |
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![]() wrote in message t... "magicman" wrote in message ... "Staffbull" wrote in message oups.com... Andy wrote: I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US. These days correction fluids like Tippex seem to have been reformulated compared to several years ago. I think the old chemicals used were too hazardous and the dilution fluid for them was something hazardous like 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. ---- I have some new style Tippex Rapid and it has started to thicken. See http://tinyurl.com/qyht6 What household solvent can I use to dilute it? (1) Isopropyl alcohol doesn't do it. (2) Acetone didn't seem to work. (3) I think ethyl acetate (nail polish remover) might have worked although it was getting hard to tell after 1 and 2. But it smells hazardous. What can be used? They banned tippex thinners when I was in school due to the kids sniffing it !! The good old days Nah, in the good old days, they used mimeograph for school duplication. A good snootful of chlorinated ink solvent really put one in the mood for excellent performance on an exam. And what a great smell it was. Couple that with Tipex thinners and I'm amazed that any of us from that era actually made it to adult-hood ![]() |
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Not just good old days - innovative - it is excellent for marking leather (equine tack) anhd plastic and anything too dark to take coki pen
, and I find comes off - usuing some of these great ideas posted! -- For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...ex-287854-.htm |
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Eh?
Its acetone by the way. Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Loopi" wrote in message groupdirect.com... Not just good old days - innovative - it is excellent for marking leather (equine tack) anhd plastic and anything too dark to take coki pen , and I find comes off - usuing some of these great ideas posted! -- For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...ex-287854-.htm |
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I don't think it is acetone - that's nail varnish remover. Tippex is some
sort of chloro organic solvent. Ah, Wikipedia says that it was originally 1,1,1-trichloroethane but that was too toxic for solvent sniffers, so they now use "an aliphatic hydrocarbon" (without being specific). I never really liked the smell of Tippex. Much better for snorting is the solvent used by Banda spirit duplication - propanol probably - when the copies are freshly duplicated and handed out in class at school. "Brian Gaff (Sofa)" wrote in message ... Eh? Its acetone by the way. Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Loopi" wrote in message groupdirect.com... Not just good old days - innovative - it is excellent for marking leather (equine tack) anhd plastic and anything too dark to take coki pen , and I find comes off - usuing some of these great ideas posted! -- For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...ex-287854-.htm |
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On 14/04/2021 16:21, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
Its acetone by the way. A 14-year-old post. I expect the solvents have changed several times. You used to be able to get Tippex thinners until teenagers started sniffing it. Why can't we buy anything we like as long as we sign a form saying, "I don't care how many kids die from misusing this (solvent, glue &c.)"? -- Max Demian |
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On 14/04/2021 16:21, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
Eh? Its acetone by the way. Brian It's been water based for a while, so probably acrylic. Acetone, Isopropyl Alcohol and Meths can dissolve acrylic paints so it might do the trick here. |
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![]() "Andy" wrote in message ... I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US. These days correction fluids like Tippex seem to have been reformulated compared to several years ago. That sounds similar to "White-Out" in the US, and my comments below assume the UK version is similar to the US version. I think the old chemicals used were too hazardous and the dilution fluid for them was something hazardous like 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. While that name is chemically impossible, I believe the solvent used to be either 1,1,1-trichloroethane or 1,1,2-trichloroethylene. In my youth, my dad worked in an AEP research lab, and he used to bring pints of what he called "trichlor" or "electrosol" home, but it was never clear to me whether it was the -ane or the -ene. Both have very similar physical properties and chemical properties. While both are very weak acute toxins (LD50 is on the order of 6 g/kg), they have longer-term effects (carcinogen, teratogen and mutagen). Too bad, because nothing beat the stuff my dad brought home for cleaning my bicycle chain. I tried methylene chloride in grad school, but it evaporates too quickly and leaves too much grit behind (not to mention the burning sensation under my watch band.) Trichlor floated the grit right away, leaving smooth metal behind for re-greasing. The new White-Out (now sold in the US as "correction pens" that dispense white ink) smell to me like they still contain some chlorocarbon (maybe trichlor)...it may be that nothing but chlorocarbons form stable suspensions with the TiO2 (or is it ZnO2?). I also think I smell some toluene and some ketone, perhaps MIBK. The label says "Contains petroleum distillates", which could be the toluene. When the stuff dries, it smells like linseed oil, which may be the binder that keeps the TiO2 (or is it ZnO2) from crumbling away. By smell, it is a real gemisch of solvents. It may be that no safe solvent works especially well, because more and more, I'm seeing pen-dispensed correction tape replacing the correction fluid. I have some new style Tippex Rapid and it has started to thicken. See http://tinyurl.com/qyht6 What household solvent can I use to dilute it? (1) Isopropyl alcohol doesn't do it. (2) Acetone didn't seem to work. (3) I think ethyl acetate (nail polish remover) might have worked although it was getting hard to tell after 1 and 2. But it smells hazardous. Actually, ethyl acetate is probably the least hazardous of those three you tried. If it works, I'd go for it. (I used to really like the smell of ethyl acetate, until one time the airlock went dry on a batch of wine I was making, and the air exposure converted a detectable amount of the ethanol to ethyl acetate. It smelled pretty, but boy did it taste awful. I've used methylene chloride to rejuvenate White-Out in the past. It resuspends the pigment very well, but it doesn't work great--it evaporates too quickly. I would try some trichlor (electronics supply shop?) or methylene chloride (hardware store, as furniture stripper), or maybe toluene (hardware store--paint thinner or lacquer thinner). Eric Lucas |
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On 27 Sep 2006, wrote:
It may be that no safe solvent works especially well, because more and more, I'm seeing pen-dispensed correction tape replacing the correction fluid. I really dislike those things! |
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"Andy" wrote in message ... I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US. These days correction fluids like Tippex seem to have been reformulated compared to several years ago. That sounds similar to "White-Out" in the US, and my comments below assume the UK version is similar to the US version. I think the old chemicals used were too hazardous and the dilution fluid for them was something hazardous like 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. While that name is chemically impossible, I believe the solvent used to be either 1,1,1-trichloroethane or 1,1,2-trichloroethylene. In my youth, my dad worked in an AEP research lab, and he used to bring pints of what he called "trichlor" or "electrosol" home, but it was never clear to me whether it was the -ane or the -ene. Both have very similar physical properties and chemical properties. While both are very weak acute toxins (LD50 is on the order of 6 g/kg), they have longer-term effects (carcinogen, teratogen and mutagen). Too bad, because nothing beat the stuff my dad brought home for cleaning my bicycle chain. I tried methylene chloride in grad school, but it evaporates too quickly and leaves too much grit behind (not to mention the burning sensation under my watch band.) Trichlor floated the grit right away, leaving smooth metal behind for re-greasing. The new White-Out (now sold in the US as "correction pens" that dispense white ink) smell to me like they still contain some chlorocarbon (maybe trichlor)...it may be that nothing but chlorocarbons form stable suspensions with the TiO2 (or is it ZnO2?). I also think I smell some toluene and some ketone, perhaps MIBK. The label says "Contains petroleum distillates", which could be the toluene. When the stuff dries, it smells like linseed oil, which may be the binder that keeps the TiO2 (or is it ZnO2) from crumbling away. By smell, it is a real gemisch of solvents. It may be that no safe solvent works especially well, because more and more, I'm seeing pen-dispensed correction tape replacing the correction fluid. I have some new style Tippex Rapid and it has started to thicken. See http://tinyurl.com/qyht6 What household solvent can I use to dilute it? (1) Isopropyl alcohol doesn't do it. (2) Acetone didn't seem to work. (3) I think ethyl acetate (nail polish remover) might have worked although it was getting hard to tell after 1 and 2. But it smells hazardous. Actually, ethyl acetate is probably the least hazardous of those three you tried. If it works, I'd go for it. (I used to really like the smell of ethyl acetate, until one time the airlock went dry on a batch of wine I was making, and the air exposure converted a detectable amount of the ethanol to ethyl acetate. It smelled pretty, but boy did it taste awful. I've used methylene chloride to rejuvenate White-Out in the past. It resuspends the pigment very well, but it doesn't work great--it evaporates too quickly. I would try some trichlor (electronics supply shop?) or methylene chloride (hardware store, as furniture stripper), or maybe toluene (hardware store--paint thinner or lacquer thinner). Eric Lucas Also try dope thinners from a model shop. Or cellulose thinners from builders merchants etc. |
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![]() "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... 8 Also try dope thinners from a model shop. Or cellulose thinners from builders merchants etc. The last bottle of TippEx I used was water based. It took ages to dry but worked OK. It is a problem on some washable inks as they wick through. Of course if you are going to use the sort of solvents mentioned in this thread so far you could probably use hydrogen peroxide and bleach the ink from the paper (doesn't work with lasers but a hot iron works wonders). |
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![]() Andy wrote: I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US. Isn't it called "Liquid Paper" in the USA. I believe that it was invented by the mother of Mike Nesmith - the one with the wooly hat out of The Monkees! |
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:11:00 +0100, Andy wrote:
I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US. These days correction fluids like Tippex seem to have been reformulated compared to several years ago. I think the old chemicals used were too hazardous and the dilution fluid for them was something hazardous like 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. ---- I have some new style Tippex Rapid and it has started to thicken. See http://tinyurl.com/qyht6 What household solvent can I use to dilute it? (1) Isopropyl alcohol doesn't do it. (2) Acetone didn't seem to work. (3) I think ethyl acetate (nail polish remover) might have worked although it was getting hard to tell after 1 and 2. But it smells hazardous. What can be used? Wouldn't it be easiest to go and buy a new bottle of the stuff? It's quite cheap, you know! -- Frank Erskine |
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Thus spaketh Frank Erskine:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:11:00 +0100, Andy wrote: I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US. These days correction fluids like Tippex seem to have been reformulated compared to several years ago. I think the old chemicals used were too hazardous and the dilution fluid for them was something hazardous like 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. ---- I have some new style Tippex Rapid and it has started to thicken. See http://tinyurl.com/qyht6 What household solvent can I use to dilute it? (1) Isopropyl alcohol doesn't do it. (2) Acetone didn't seem to work. (3) I think ethyl acetate (nail polish remover) might have worked although it was getting hard to tell after 1 and 2. But it smells hazardous. What can be used? Wouldn't it be easiest to go and buy a new bottle of the stuff? It's quite cheap, you know! Wouldn't it be easier not to make mistakes? -- DVD rental: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/dvd PAYG Mobile Offers: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/payg Items for sale: www.dodgy-dealer.co.uk |
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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
Thus spaketh Frank Erskine: On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:11:00 +0100, Andy wrote: What can be used? Wouldn't it be easiest to go and buy a new bottle of the stuff? It's quite cheap, you know! Wouldn't it be easier not to make mistakes? With word processor programs, I would have thought Tippex is a bit of a dinosaur... -- Ron Jones Process Safety & Development Specialist Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near missesa at http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert Einstein |
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On 2006-09-29 01:36:47 +0100, "Ron Jones" said:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote: Thus spaketh Frank Erskine: On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:11:00 +0100, Andy wrote: What can be used? Wouldn't it be easiest to go and buy a new bottle of the stuff? It's quite cheap, you know! Wouldn't it be easier not to make mistakes? With word processor programs, I would have thought Tippex is a bit of a dinosaur... Oh I don't know. I once knew a blonde secretary who had Tippex all over her PC monitor screen |
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![]() "Andy" wrote in message ... I am in the UK. I think Tippex is not available in the US. These days correction fluids like Tippex seem to have been reformulated compared to several years ago. I think the old chemicals used were too hazardous and the dilution fluid for them was something hazardous like 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. ---- I have some new style Tippex Rapid and it has started to thicken. See http://tinyurl.com/qyht6 What household solvent can I use to dilute it? (1) Isopropyl alcohol doesn't do it. (2) Acetone didn't seem to work. (3) I think ethyl acetate (nail polish remover) might have worked although it was getting hard to tell after 1 and 2. But it smells hazardous. What can be used? -------------- PS: Note that the other Tippex correction fluid is Tippex Aqua. See http://tinyurl.com/rpwz9 Got to ask but why dilute ? |
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replying to Andy, Tony mc wrote:
I tried xlyene, & it worked a treat!. Available from diy stores for cleaning brushes. -- for full context, visit http://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/...ex-287854-.htm |
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On Monday, 19 September 2016 20:14:03 UTC+1, Tony mc wrote:
replying to Andy, Tony mc wrote: I tried xlyene, & it worked a treat!. Available from diy stores for cleaning brushes. only 10 years late. You need this: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub NT |
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Yes its about time this awful web interface was stopped from using this
group till they sort out the dates of their posts. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! wrote in message ... On Monday, 19 September 2016 20:14:03 UTC+1, Tony mc wrote: replying to Andy, Tony mc wrote: I tried xlyene, & it worked a treat!. Available from diy stores for cleaning brushes. only 10 years late. You need this: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub NT |
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Brian Gaff wrote
Yes its about time this awful web interface was stopped from using this group till they sort out the dates of their posts. Not even possible. wrote in message ... On Monday, 19 September 2016 20:14:03 UTC+1, Tony mc wrote: replying to Andy, Tony mc wrote: I tried xlyene, & it worked a treat!. Available from diy stores for cleaning brushes. only 10 years late. You need this: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub NT |
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On 20/09/2016 08:55, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes its about time this awful web interface was stopped from using this group till they sort out the dates of their posts. Mind you don't upset a moderator.... Bwhahaaaaaaa |
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On Monday, 19 September 2016 20:14:03 UTC+1, Tony mc wrote:
replying to Andy, Tony mc wrote: I tried xlyene, & it worked a treat!. Available from diy stores for cleaning brushes. -- for full context, visit http://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/...ex-287854-.htm The solvent in modern Tippex is 1-Cyclohexane. |
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On Monday, 19 September 2016 20:14:03 UTC+1, Tony mc wrote:
replying to Andy, Tony mc wrote: I tried xlyene, & it worked a treat!. Available from diy stores for cleaning brushes. -- for full context, visit http://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/...ex-287854-.htm The solvent in modern Tippex is 1-Cyclohexene. |
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