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I am looking to purchase a jigsaw, to be used in the first instance to
cut some engineered wood flooring but also for future general use. I like the look of Erbauer JS807, 800W with parallel fence. Does anyone have any experience of this jigsaw or can any of you recommend a jigsaw in the same price bracket (£50-£75). Any advice greatly appreciated. http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...34296&id=85827 |
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On Sat, 13 May 2006 16:45:03 +0100, bob wrote
(in article . com): I am looking to purchase a jigsaw, to be used in the first instance to cut some engineered wood flooring but also for future general use. I like the look of Erbauer JS807, 800W with parallel fence. Does anyone have any experience of this jigsaw or can any of you recommend a jigsaw in the same price bracket (£50-£75). Any advice greatly appreciated. http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...34296&id=85827 The short answer is that you won't find a decent jigsaw in the £50 bracket. The mechanics are simply not well enough engineered to control blade stability enough to prevent it wandering. I had had a jigsaw in this category for many years and had even tried a few other similar ones from time to time. None of them were able to provide consistent, accurate cutting or to follow a line properly without wandering off. It didn't matter what type of blade either. I had pretty much given up on the notion of a jigsaw being of much use at all other than for rough cutting where the results are not seen. I then had an opportunity at a tool exhibition to have a go with a Bosch GST series just to see what it was like. It was like chalk and cheese. There was accurate speed control, the blade didn't wander about and I could easily cut straight and random shapes. As a comparison, I tried a Makita tool in the same price bracket. Not quite as good as the Bosch, but still streets ahead of the basic products. I bought the Bosch and have used it regularly ever since. I've never found anything to touch it in the price range you mention. Unfortunately, this level of saw is going to cost about £120, but if you are going to use it for anything that will be seen, then I think that the entry level jigsaws are a waste of money because you will almost certainly be disappointed. |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Sat, 13 May 2006 16:45:03 +0100, bob wrote (in article . com): I am looking to purchase a jigsaw, to be used in the first instance to cut some engineered wood flooring but also for future general use. I like the look of Erbauer JS807, 800W with parallel fence. Does anyone have any experience of this jigsaw or can any of you recommend a jigsaw in the same price bracket (£50-£75). Any advice greatly appreciated. http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...34296&id=85827 The short answer is that you won't find a decent jigsaw in the £50 bracket. The mechanics are simply not well enough engineered to control blade stability enough to prevent it wandering. I had had a jigsaw in this category for many years and had even tried a few other similar ones from time to time. None of them were able to provide consistent, accurate cutting or to follow a line properly without wandering off. It didn't matter what type of blade either. I had pretty much given up on the notion of a jigsaw being of much use at all other than for rough cutting where the results are not seen. I then had an opportunity at a tool exhibition to have a go with a Bosch GST series just to see what it was like. It was like chalk and cheese. There was accurate speed control, the blade didn't wander about and I could easily cut straight and random shapes. As a comparison, I tried a Makita tool in the same price bracket. Not quite as good as the Bosch, but still streets ahead of the basic products. I bought the Bosch and have used it regularly ever since. I've never found anything to touch it in the price range you mention. Unfortunately, this level of saw is going to cost about £120, but if you are going to use it for anything that will be seen, then I think that the entry level jigsaws are a waste of money because you will almost certainly be disappointed. I agree with Andy on this too, I got a cheap erbereyr (or whatever from screwfix) circular saw. Pile of s**t! Even that cannot cut a good straight line! |
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Tim Morley wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Sat, 13 May 2006 16:45:03 +0100, bob wrote (in article . com): I am looking to purchase a jigsaw, to be used in the first instance to cut some engineered wood flooring but also for future general use. I like the look of Erbauer JS807, 800W with parallel fence. Does anyone have any experience of this jigsaw or can any of you recommend a jigsaw in the same price bracket (£50-£75). Any advice greatly appreciated. http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...34296&id=85827 The short answer is that you won't find a decent jigsaw in the £50 bracket. The mechanics are simply not well enough engineered to control blade stability enough to prevent it wandering. I had had a jigsaw in this category for many years and had even tried a few other similar ones from time to time. None of them were able to provide consistent, accurate cutting or to follow a line properly without wandering off. It didn't matter what type of blade either. I had pretty much given up on the notion of a jigsaw being of much use at all other than for rough cutting where the results are not seen. I then had an opportunity at a tool exhibition to have a go with a Bosch GST series just to see what it was like. It was like chalk and cheese. There was accurate speed control, the blade didn't wander about and I could easily cut straight and random shapes. As a comparison, I tried a Makita tool in the same price bracket. Not quite as good as the Bosch, but still streets ahead of the basic products. I bought the Bosch and have used it regularly ever since. I've never found anything to touch it in the price range you mention. Unfortunately, this level of saw is going to cost about £120, but if you are going to use it for anything that will be seen, then I think that the entry level jigsaws are a waste of money because you will almost certainly be disappointed. I agree with Andy on this too, I got a cheap erbereyr (or whatever from screwfix) circular saw. Pile of s**t! Even that cannot cut a good straight line! There isn't a jigsaw on the planet that cuts a "straight" line, but even the cheapest circular saw should. I think the £60 jigsaws pack quite a punch these days, and that's really all it's about. The puny ones are simply underpowered, and that causes wandering |
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"bob" wrote in message ups.com... I am looking to purchase a jigsaw, to be used in the first instance to cut some engineered wood flooring but also for future general use. I like the look of Erbauer JS807, 800W with parallel fence. Does anyone have any experience of this jigsaw or can any of you recommend a jigsaw in the same price bracket (£50-£75). Any advice greatly appreciated. http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...34296&id=85827 I have the 650W version of the above and its well worth the £39.99. Better power balance IMHO than the 450W Wickes/Kress it replaced which sufferred from a sticky on/off switch and eventually a failed blade locking ring. I paid particular attention to the locking ring and when I noticed a Makita with a plastic locking ring I knew that wasn't for me even if spares were available. The Erbauer speed control circuitry burned out after a year, but it has a two year guarantee and was replaced without quibble. The replacement has a stepped speed control, the original was continuously variable, possibly a significant modification. It cuts perfectly straight within its comfort zone. Not exactly sure the type of flooring you are cutting but would a panel saw not suffice? Jim A |
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I agree with Andy, cheap jigsaws are very limited beasts. I recently
bought a Bosch GST135 - and it's transformed my opinion of jigsaws from a bodgers tool to a capable device. I'd suggest either finding a bit more cash for a superior jigsaw (the Bosch GST2000 is being discontinued, and there are some bargains) - or buy a circular saw (Skil Orca is good for price) and use a handsaw for the pipe cut-outs and the like that a circular saw can't do. |
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bob wrote:
I am looking to purchase a jigsaw, to be used in the first instance to cut some engineered wood flooring but also for future general use. I like the look of Erbauer JS807, 800W with parallel fence. Does anyone have any experience of this jigsaw or can any of you recommend a jigsaw in the same price bracket (£50-£75). Any advice greatly appreciated. http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...34296&id=85827 Surely engineered flooring should be cut with a Cross pull mitre saw(compound saw) -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
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Stuart Noble wrote:
There isn't a jigsaw on the planet that cuts a "straight" line, but even the cheapest circular saw should. Spot on Stuart. If you want a straight line cut a jigsaw is the wrong tool to use. I think the £60 jigsaws pack quite a punch these days, and that's really all it's about. The puny ones are simply underpowered, and that causes wandering Agreed. I reckon 700w minimum. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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Thanks everyone for your replies, off to look at mitre and circular
saws. :-) |
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On 14 May 2006 00:10:20 -0700, "bob"
wrote: Thanks everyone for your replies, off to look at mitre and circular saws. :-) Do a google for "sawboard" too. cheers, Pete. |
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I also agree with above posts about the bosch gst jigsaws giving
outstanding performance and disagree with the view that you can't cut cut a straight line with a jigsaw. I have been using the BoschGST 135 BCE on a daily basis for the last 2 years and do a lot of straight line cutting with it, ie doors, panels,floorboards,shelves etc. obviosly anything like a table top has to be finshed with a plane anyway as would using a circular saw but in a lot of cases it sufices.I use it for doing laminate floors to great succes. I understand about cost concerns but I think it is such a versatile tool that it will pay back the serious diyer in time saved fiddeling about with inferior tools. |
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Housemartin wrote:
I also agree with above posts about the bosch gst jigsaws giving outstanding performance and disagree with the view that you can't cut cut a straight line with a jigsaw. I have been using the BoschGST 135 BCE on a daily basis for the last 2 years and do a lot of straight line cutting with it, ie doors, panels,floorboards,shelves etc. obviosly anything like a table top has to be finshed with a plane anyway as would using a circular saw but in a lot of cases it sufices.I use it for doing laminate floors to great succes. I understand about cost concerns but I think it is such a versatile tool that it will pay back the serious diyer in time saved fiddeling about with inferior tools. I'm summising the doors are kitchen cupboard ones? Whats an inferior tool? -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
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from "The3rd Earl Of Derby" contains these words: Whats an inferior tool? Tony Blair? -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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Pete C wrote:
On 14 May 2006 00:10:20 -0700, "bob" wrote: Thanks everyone for your replies, off to look at mitre and circular saws. :-) Do a google for "sawboard" too. Oh yes, a thing of wondrous beauty.............. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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Guy King wrote in news:3130303034323739446761F466
@zetnet.co.uk: The message from "The3rd Earl Of Derby" contains these words: Whats an inferior tool? Tony Blair? From what I read, it was our beloved DPM's. :-) -- Rod |
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On Sat, 13 May 2006 19:15:27 GMT, Stuart Noble
wrote: There isn't a jigsaw on the planet that cuts a "straight" line, but even the cheapest circular saw should. I think the £60 jigsaws pack quite a punch these days, Well there's your problem. Spend £150 on a Bosch and don't rush things. I've cut dovetails in 1/2" softwood with mine. It's hardly a sensible way to do them, but you can do it. |
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bob wrote: I am looking to purchase a jigsaw, Entry-level jigsaw... http://www.elc.co.uk/toy-30929 :-) |
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