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Mike Hibbert
 
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Hi all,

The ongoing saga of my new shower! Firstly a BIg thanks that have offered
advice so far, I have some good ideas and feel confident enough to tackle
the job.

To recap, the way I think I will go will be to install a cold ater tank and
a hot water cylinder and heat the water from the central heating loop.

The house is a converted bungalow which has been dormered, loft converted
and extended to the side, resulting in a strange shaped attic area which is
onlt about 6 feet high at the highest. It lis like a triangle all around the
side of the house. Getting a hot water cylinder and a cold tank above is not
possible. I toyed with the cold water in the attic (which is nicely just
above the soon-to-be shower room) and putting the hot water cylinder in the
shower room nicely boxed in etc. However, what would be nicest would be the
cold water tank in the lost space above the attic conversion and the
cylinder in the attic.

Problem is though, there is no access to the loft space. There must be some
space up there, but the pitch of the roof isn't great so there isn't going
to be much headroom (probably only 50cm - 75cm) but the space is about 2m by
4m (measured from underneath, so this will be reduced on the top).

My question is (after all this rambling), assuming there is enough space up
there, what is the best way forward? I would want a reasonable size cold
water tank, (screwfix do some long shallow ones which are only 19 inches
high), so this would probibit making a nice likket access panel.

My two options are take the ceiling down and then rebuild, this would leave
no access to the loft space if I needed it again. Or remove part of the roof
and drop it in.

Both sound fairly big jobs to me!

Any ideas on which is better, shorter or more correct?

Any other thoughts??

Cheera again

Mike


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Clive Summerfield
 
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"Mike Hibbert" wrote in message
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Hi all,

The ongoing saga of my new shower! Firstly a BIg thanks that have offered
advice so far, I have some good ideas and feel confident enough to tackle
the job.

To recap, the way I think I will go will be to install a cold ater tank

and
a hot water cylinder and heat the water from the central heating loop.

snip of detailed description

My question is (after all this rambling), assuming there is enough space

up
there, what is the best way forward? I would want a reasonable size cold
water tank, (screwfix do some long shallow ones which are only 19 inches
high), so this would probibit making a nice likket access panel.

My two options are take the ceiling down and then rebuild, this would

leave
no access to the loft space if I needed it again. Or remove part of the

roof
and drop it in.

Both sound fairly big jobs to me!

Any ideas on which is better, shorter or more correct?

Any other thoughts??


How about multiple smaller cold water tanks connected together? That would
give you the storage capacity, but without a requirement for a large access
area. Just a thought.

Cheers
Clive


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Andy Hall
 
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:04:36 GMT, "Mike Hibbert"
wrote:


My question is (after all this rambling), assuming there is enough space up
there, what is the best way forward? I would want a reasonable size cold
water tank, (screwfix do some long shallow ones which are only 19 inches
high), so this would probibit making a nice likket access panel.

My two options are take the ceiling down and then rebuild, this would leave
no access to the loft space if I needed it again. Or remove part of the roof
and drop it in.

Both sound fairly big jobs to me!

Any ideas on which is better, shorter or more correct?

Any other thoughts??

Cheera again

Mike


Have a look at www.polytank.co.uk

I am pretty sure that they are the suppliers to Screwfix.

At any rate, I bought one of their "coffin" tanks to replace a rather
poor circular one that the original builders had used. A nice
product as long as you throw away the cheap ball valve that they
supply and use a Fluidmaster or Torbeck.

There are a variety of shapes and sizes in their range.

One thing that you might be able to do that I did at a previous house
where the shape of the roofspace was an issue was to fit two smaller
than normal tanks and link them together.

They must be at the same height of course, but then you put the float
valve into one and the outlets into the other and connect the two
using a piece of 28mm pipe between two tank connectors located near
the bottom. You should really have an overflow from both, but
definitely not just the second tank in case the link becomes blocked
and the float valve fails.

This all worked very effectively



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Mike Hibbert
 
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:04:36 GMT, "Mike Hibbert"
wrote:


My question is (after all this rambling), assuming there is enough space

up
there, what is the best way forward? I would want a reasonable size cold
water tank, (screwfix do some long shallow ones which are only 19 inches
high), so this would probibit making a nice likket access panel.

My two options are take the ceiling down and then rebuild, this would

leave
no access to the loft space if I needed it again. Or remove part of the

roof
and drop it in.

Both sound fairly big jobs to me!

Any ideas on which is better, shorter or more correct?

Any other thoughts??

Cheera again

Mike


Have a look at www.polytank.co.uk

I am pretty sure that they are the suppliers to Screwfix.

At any rate, I bought one of their "coffin" tanks to replace a rather
poor circular one that the original builders had used. A nice
product as long as you throw away the cheap ball valve that they
supply and use a Fluidmaster or Torbeck.

There are a variety of shapes and sizes in their range.

One thing that you might be able to do that I did at a previous house
where the shape of the roofspace was an issue was to fit two smaller
than normal tanks and link them together.

They must be at the same height of course, but then you put the float
valve into one and the outlets into the other and connect the two
using a piece of 28mm pipe between two tank connectors located near
the bottom. You should really have an overflow from both, but
definitely not just the second tank in case the link becomes blocked
and the float valve fails.


Thanks Andy,

This may make things a bit easier, I still need to get up there and see what
space there is!


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Mike Hibbert
 
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"Clive Summerfield" wrote in message
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"Mike Hibbert" wrote in message
news
Hi all,

The ongoing saga of my new shower! Firstly a BIg thanks that have

offered
advice so far, I have some good ideas and feel confident enough to

tackle
the job.

To recap, the way I think I will go will be to install a cold ater tank

and
a hot water cylinder and heat the water from the central heating loop.

snip of detailed description

My question is (after all this rambling), assuming there is enough space

up
there, what is the best way forward? I would want a reasonable size cold
water tank, (screwfix do some long shallow ones which are only 19 inches
high), so this would probibit making a nice likket access panel.

My two options are take the ceiling down and then rebuild, this would

leave
no access to the loft space if I needed it again. Or remove part of the

roof
and drop it in.

Both sound fairly big jobs to me!

Any ideas on which is better, shorter or more correct?

Any other thoughts??


How about multiple smaller cold water tanks connected together? That would
give you the storage capacity, but without a requirement for a large

access
area. Just a thought.

Cheers
Clive



Thank Clive!


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