I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill some
holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one of
the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little pressure
and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20 years
old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them that I'd be
much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

David Peters wrote:
I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill some
holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one of
the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little pressure
and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20 years
old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them that I'd be
much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

Never tried it,but if you do drill use the smallest bit first to drill a
pilot hole then proceed with correct size bit..

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
David Peters wrote:
I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill some
holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one of
the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little pressure
and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20 years
old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them that I'd be
much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

Never tried it,but if you do drill use the smallest bit first to drill a
pilot hole then proceed with correct size bit..

I would warm the tiles, take another warm tile, covered in wax, and then
apply it to the place that the hole is wanted.
Leave to cool.
Now, drill slowly.
Warm up to remove.

Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
David Peters wrote:
I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill some
holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one of
the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little pressure
and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20 years
old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them that I'd be
much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

Never tried it,but if you do drill use the smallest bit first to
drill a pilot hole then proceed with correct size bit..

I would warm the tiles, take another warm tile, covered in wax, and
then apply it to the place that the hole is wanted.
Leave to cool.
Now, drill slowly.
Warm up to remove.

What does the wax do?

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

David Peters wrote:
I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill some
holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one of
the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little pressure
and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20 years
old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them that I'd be
much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

It's quite possible to drill tiles that are fixed with an ordinary
masonry drill in a hammer drill (pref with variable speed), but it does
depend how they are fixed, ie, how much adhesive is behind the spot you
are drilling. Lots of adhesive and no voids then it's OK.

MBQ

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
David Peters wrote:
I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill some
holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one of
the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little pressure
and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20 years
old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them that I'd be
much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

Never tried it,but if you do drill use the smallest bit first to
drill a pilot hole then proceed with correct size bit..

I would warm the tiles, take another warm tile, covered in wax, and
then apply it to the place that the hole is wanted.
Leave to cool.
Now, drill slowly.
Warm up to remove.

What does the wax do?

It's just a sort of glue, that's easily removable.
Commonly used in precision glassworking.

Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
David Peters wrote:
I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill some
holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one of
the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little pressure
and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20 years
old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them that I'd be
much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

Never tried it,but if you do drill use the smallest bit first to
drill a pilot hole then proceed with correct size bit..

I would warm the tiles, take another warm tile, covered in wax, and
then apply it to the place that the hole is wanted.
Leave to cool.
Now, drill slowly.
Warm up to remove.

What does the wax do?

It's just a sort of glue, that's easily removable.
Commonly used in precision glassworking.

Great! now how does he cover the tile in wax bearing in mind its in a
vertical position?

ps masking tape will suffice although I'm still confused as to what the wax
does?

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
David Peters wrote:
I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill
some holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one
of the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little
pressure and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20
years old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them
that I'd be much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

Never tried it,but if you do drill use the smallest bit first to
drill a pilot hole then proceed with correct size bit..

I would warm the tiles, take another warm tile, covered in wax,
and then apply it to the place that the hole is wanted.
Leave to cool.
Now, drill slowly.
Warm up to remove.

What does the wax do?

It's just a sort of glue, that's easily removable.
Commonly used in precision glassworking.

Great! now how does he cover the tile in wax bearing in mind its in a
vertical position?

It's not vertical. Try reading "take another warm tile, covered in
wax, and then apply it to the place that the hole is wanted" again.

MBQ

I have.

Nope! I'm flummexed as to whats happening here? the op has tiles on his
kitchen wall that are about 20 years old?

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
David Peters wrote:
I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill
some holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one
of the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little
pressure and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20
years old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them
that I'd be much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

Never tried it,but if you do drill use the smallest bit first to
drill a pilot hole then proceed with correct size bit..

I would warm the tiles, take another warm tile, covered in wax,
and then apply it to the place that the hole is wanted.
Leave to cool.
Now, drill slowly.
Warm up to remove.

What does the wax do?

It's just a sort of glue, that's easily removable.
Commonly used in precision glassworking.

Great! now how does he cover the tile in wax bearing in mind its in a
vertical position?

It's not vertical. Try reading "take another warm tile, covered in
wax, and then apply it to the place that the hole is wanted" again.

Nope! I'm flummexed as to whats happening here? the op has tiles on his
kitchen wall that are about 20 years old?

Warm the tiles on the wall, using a heater.
Now, take a warm tile that you don't want, and pour some hot, liquid wax
on it.
(take care not to overheat and pour on hands/feet/...)
Apply the tile to the wall, and hold it while it cools.

The idea is that you then drill through the tile you've just applied,
and the hole provides lots of support for the bit, rather than it
bouncing around everywhere.

Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
David Peters wrote:
I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill
some holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling
one of the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little
pressure and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20
years old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them
that I'd be much better off drilling somewhere else on the
tile?

Never tried it,but if you do drill use the smallest bit first
to drill a pilot hole then proceed with correct size bit..

I would warm the tiles, take another warm tile, covered in wax,
and then apply it to the place that the hole is wanted.
Leave to cool.
Now, drill slowly.
Warm up to remove.

What does the wax do?

It's just a sort of glue, that's easily removable.
Commonly used in precision glassworking.

Great! now how does he cover the tile in wax bearing in mind its
in a vertical position?

It's not vertical. Try reading "take another warm tile, covered in
wax, and then apply it to the place that the hole is wanted" again.

Nope! I'm flummexed as to whats happening here? the op has tiles on
his kitchen wall that are about 20 years old?

Warm the tiles on the wall, using a heater.
Now, take a warm tile that you don't want, and pour some hot, liquid
wax on it.
(take care not to overheat and pour on hands/feet/...)
Apply the tile to the wall, and hold it while it cools.

The idea is that you then drill through the tile you've just applied,
and the hole provides lots of support for the bit, rather than it
bouncing around everywhere.

Thats better, happy as larry now. ;-)
allthough a small masonary bit just a bit bigger than a match will suffice
as it won't bounce then finish off with the normal size.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:10:36 GMT, David Peters
wrote:

I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill some
holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one of
the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little pressure
and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20 years
old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them that I'd be
much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

If you want to do it in complete safety, gring the hole.,

Get some valve grinding paste from a car shop and use a nail of the
correct diameter. Smear the place with paste and use the nail to grind
the hole. Boring but safe.

EricP wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:10:36 GMT, David Peters
wrote:

If you want to do it in complete safety, gring the hole.,

Is that what you do round a gspot?

MBQ

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David Peters wrote:
I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill some
holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one of
the holes right in between two tiles.

I'll use the correct spear-shaped drill bit, apply little pressure
and make sure the bit is kept cool during drilling.

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20 years
old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them that I'd be
much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

It's quite possible to drill tiles that are fixed with an ordinary
masonry drill in a hammer drill (pref with variable speed), but it does
depend how they are fixed, ie, how much adhesive is behind the spot you
are drilling. Lots of adhesive and no voids then it's OK.


I really don't understand why the need to do all this wax applying! I have
on many occasions successfully drilled in the grout lines of tiles. The
method I use is to use a tile drill bit in a cordless drill (power drill
will work but usually heavier to hold). Position the drill bit where you
want the hole and with your 'free' hand cup the nose of the drill and start
drilling, at the same time as holding the drill away from the wall slightly.
The drill bit will then cut into the tile edges and oce you have a full
diameter hole drill as normal. I hope that makes sense, it does to me but I
know what I am trying to explain!

HTH

John

EricP wrote:
David Peters wrote:

I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill some
holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one of
the holes right in between two tiles.

If you want to do it in complete safety, gring the hole.,

Get some valve grinding paste from a car shop and use a nail of the
correct diameter. Smear the place with paste and use the nail to grind
the hole. Boring but safe.

Holy ****. Is this something you've done or is this in the 'seems like
a good idea' category ?

P.

On 22 Mar 2006 11:24:22 -0800, wrote:


EricP wrote:
David Peters wrote:

I want to hang something up in my kitchen and I need to drill some
holes into the ceramic (pottery) tiles.

I'd like to have a symettrical look and this means drilling one of
the holes right in between two tiles.

If you want to do it in complete safety, gring the hole.,

Get some valve grinding paste from a car shop and use a nail of the
correct diameter. Smear the place with paste and use the nail to grind
the hole. Boring but safe.

Holy ****. Is this something you've done or is this in the 'seems like
a good idea' category ?

P.

Used to do a lot of work on glass and that was the only way to get
clean cuts. It also applies to ceramics.
Doesn't take that long. PPP

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember David Peters
saying something like:

QUESTION: Is drilling between two tiles (they look about 20 years
old) so likely to chip, crack or otherwise damage them that I'd be
much better off drilling somewhere else on the tile?

Use a good masonry bit and go slow. I've drilled many holes in the
grouting and never had a problem. What works in your favour is the tiles
are well secured to the wall and all grouted in - they can't move in any
direction so the hole just gets drilled with no drama.
--

Dave

dont know what all the fuss is about. i have drilled in the middle of
tiles, between tiles and also at a meeting place of 4 tiles with the
same procedure. I use a hammer drill but without hammer action until i
get through the tile. The only non-slip thing i use is masking tape
but go slow at first. When i am through the tile (the hardest part)
then on to hammer action and no problems.

One thing to bear in mind is that on 1 occasion when i was using a
plug, make sure it goes right through to the wall. i left the plug
flush with the tile once and when putting in the screw, the arrow like
grip things got caught in the tile and whilst tightening the screw, i
was actually pulling the tile closer. Ended up with a cracked tile.
you live and learn.