I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw. I have
seen the Ryobi range in
B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit - perhaps something to build
over the months as needed.
Usage I give it is "moderate" ... a few times a week for light duty type
use and I tend to look after my kit, by not overloading it. For the drill I
would be looking for a good / smooth variable speed trigger and preferably
two battery packs. If this make is not the best value for money, can anyone
suggest alternatives and where to source at a good price (apart from E-bay)

Thanks,
Nick

"Nick" wrote in message
...

I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw. I have
seen the Ryobi range in B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit

Good stuff.

- perhaps something to build over the months as needed.

Yep the ONE+ range, the same company who make Milwaukee. The Impact Driver
is cheap and good value.

Usage I give it is "moderate" ... a few times a week for light duty type
use and I tend to look after my kit, by not overloading it. For the drill
I would be looking for a good / smooth variable speed trigger and
preferably two battery packs. If this make is not the best value for
money, can anyone suggest alternatives and where to source at a good price
(apart from E-bay)

The ONE+ range has Panasonic cells in the batteries, so top quality. Two
batts and a charger is £60 in Screwfix. A 'bare' impact driver £70,
drill/driver £40, saw £60, £60 angle drill, etc. For e.g., the Impact
Driver would be around £200 if it was a Bosch with battery, etc. The Ryobi
battery angle drill (not the ONE+ range) is about £100. The ONE battery
idea is the way to go as you save a fortune, as the batteries command a
large slice of the price. I spoke to the rep, and he said, if they
introduce Lith Ion battery it will be compatible to the ONE range. So, all
you do is buy the new battery type.

Wickes do a similar thing with the 14.4 batteries on the Pro range. The
range is not extensive though.

A recent post on uk.d-i-y from an Aussie mag review:


REVIEW - Ryobi One+ 18v Cordless Tool System - www.onlinetoolreviews.com
"ABCD" wrote in message
...

Hi all,

We have added more tools to our existing Ryobi One+ system review
coverage.
The review is now available online at
http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/rev...obioneplus.htm

Grab a coffee though because the complete
review of all tools in the system
now stretches over 12,000 words!
As you will see, some tools in the system
are better than others...

Hope it helps!

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:33:58 GMT, "Nick" wrote:

I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw. I have
seen the Ryobi range in
B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit - perhaps something to build
over the months as needed.

Techtronics are certainly doing a marketing job with their Ryobi brand
in terms of commonality of battery packs between tools. This is
nothing new, however. The major manufacturers have been doing it for
years.

Ryobi is a mid-market product that is better than the very cheapest of
the far eastern product such as Power Devil (Techtronics make this
brand also), but not as good as Makita, Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc.
which are designed for professional use. Techtronics make Milwaukee
also and are careful not to position Ryobi as professional quality
because it really isn't.

Usage I give it is "moderate" ... a few times a week for light duty type
use and I tend to look after my kit, by not overloading it. For the drill I
would be looking for a good / smooth variable speed trigger and preferably
two battery packs.

I took a look at the Ryobi drills and the circular saw at a tool show
at the end of last year. The drills are certainly better than the
low end both in terms of trigger control and balance. They are
nowhere near as good as Makita in terms of the speed/torque control or
the clutch. In fact, the chuck on one Ryobi that I was looking at
jammed and the chuck had to be jiggled to free it. I wouldn't
consider buying the Ryobi, regardless of the mid-market price.

The Ryobi circular saw, I felt was not of good build quality at all.
The plate was rather wobbly and more of a problem, it doesn't have a
dust chute. This means that it can be difficult to use if you are
trying to cut to a line.

It might be OK for occasional trim saw type applications, but not
really at all comparable to a corded circular saw.

Really, for a cordless circular saw that is worth having, one has to
look at decent 24v ones like the Bosch, but these cost around £220.

Even the good quality 18v ones are very limited in terms of
performance.

To be honest, unless you specifically need portability, a corded saw
like a Skil or Hitachi is a much better purchase.



If this make is not the best value for money, can anyone
suggest alternatives and where to source at a good price (apart from E-bay)

Thanks,
Nick


--

..andy

"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:33:58 GMT, "Nick" wrote:

I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw. I have
seen the Ryobi range in
B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit - perhaps something to build
over the months as needed.

Techtronics are certainly doing a marketing job with their Ryobi brand
in terms of commonality of battery packs between tools. This is
nothing new, however. The major manufacturers have been doing it for
years.

Ryobi is a mid-market product that
is better than the very cheapest of
the far eastern product such as
Power Devil (Techtronics make this
brand also), but not as good as Makita,
Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc.
which are designed for professional use.

Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range. I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

Doctor Drivel wrote:

Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.

No, it isn't, nor is it sold as that by anyone.

Ryobi stuff is OK, but it simply wouldn't stand up to daily use over a year.


I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

I'm sure you do.


--
Grunff

"Grunff" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:

Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.

No, it isn't, nor is it sold as that by anyone.

Another one prattling garbage. From:
http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/ryobioneplus.htm

"The One+ 18v Impact Driver is another tool in the higher price range of the
system, but it is one worth having in my opinion. Readers may recall we
reviewed the 12v version of this tool previously, which is part of Ryobi's
Professional Line series of tools. This tool is almost identical
design-wise, but the One+ 18v version is a little more powerful."

Note the word "Professional".

Grunff wrote:
Doctor Drivel wrote:

Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.

No, it isn't, nor is it sold as that by anyone.

Ryobi stuff is OK, but it simply wouldn't stand up to daily use over a year.

I beg to differ. I've had a Ryobi Cordless 18v drill and reciprocating
saw for over 2 years now. The drill has been used almost every day and
has stood up to plenty of abuse and use. I've dropped it several times
and thought it might be cracked but still perfect. The chuck has been
been beautiful to use since day one, with no jamming or slipping.
The saw, although not used that often, has also taken plenty of abuse
without any problems.

I wouldn't hesitate in buying more Ryobi stuff.

To the OP, check out the premium stuff Ryobi do, like the 1802 and 1803
drills, they are a world away from the budget drills they do. Also
check out power tool reviews on the net - Ryobi do very well.



I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

I'm sure you do.


--
Grunff

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:24:53 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:33:58 GMT, "Nick" wrote:

I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw. I have
seen the Ryobi range in
B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit - perhaps something to build
over the months as needed.

Techtronics are certainly doing a marketing job with their Ryobi brand
in terms of commonality of battery packs between tools. This is
nothing new, however. The major manufacturers have been doing it for
years.

Ryobi is a mid-market product that
is better than the very cheapest of
the far eastern product such as
Power Devil (Techtronics make this
brand also), but not as good as Makita,
Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc.
which are designed for professional use.

Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range. I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.


This is not what the manufacturer says.

Milwaukee is TTI's professional range.


--

..andy

"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:24:53 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:33:58 GMT, "Nick" wrote:

I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw. I
have
seen the Ryobi range in
B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit - perhaps something to
build
over the months as needed.

Techtronics are certainly doing a marketing job with their Ryobi brand
in terms of commonality of battery packs between tools. This is
nothing new, however. The major manufacturers have been doing it for
years.

Ryobi is a mid-market product that
is better than the very cheapest of
the far eastern product such as
Power Devil (Techtronics make this
brand also), but not as good as Makita,
Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc.
which are designed for professional use.

Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.
I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

This is not what the manufacturer says.

Milwaukee is TTI's professional range.

Matt, you should stop making things up.

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:08:46 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:24:53 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:33:58 GMT, "Nick" wrote:

I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw. I
have
seen the Ryobi range in
B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit - perhaps something to
build
over the months as needed.

Techtronics are certainly doing a marketing job with their Ryobi brand
in terms of commonality of battery packs between tools. This is
nothing new, however. The major manufacturers have been doing it for
years.

Ryobi is a mid-market product that
is better than the very cheapest of
the far eastern product such as
Power Devil (Techtronics make this
brand also), but not as good as Makita,
Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc.
which are designed for professional use.

Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.
I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

This is not what the manufacturer says.

Milwaukee is TTI's professional range.

Matt, you should stop making things up.


http://www.ttigroup.com/customPages/Milwaukee.php

"Today, the Milwaukee name stands for the highest quality, durable and
reliable professional tools money can buy"


--

..andy

"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:08:46 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:24:53 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
m...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:33:58 GMT, "Nick" wrote:

I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw. I
have
seen the Ryobi range in
B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit - perhaps something to
build
over the months as needed.

Techtronics are certainly doing a marketing job with their Ryobi brand
in terms of commonality of battery packs between tools. This is
nothing new, however. The major manufacturers have been doing it for
years.

Ryobi is a mid-market product that
is better than the very cheapest of
the far eastern product such as
Power Devil (Techtronics make this
brand also), but not as good as Makita,
Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc.
which are designed for professional use.

Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.
I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

This is not what the manufacturer says.

Milwaukee is TTI's professional range.

Matt, you should stop making things up.


http://www.ttigroup.com/customPages/Milwaukee.php

"Today, the Milwaukee name stands for the highest quality, durable and
reliable professional tools money can buy"

Matt, that is nice to know, but the Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:18:34 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:08:46 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:24:53 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
om...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:33:58 GMT, "Nick" wrote:

I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw. I
have
seen the Ryobi range in
B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit - perhaps something to
build
over the months as needed.

Techtronics are certainly doing a marketing job with their Ryobi brand
in terms of commonality of battery packs between tools. This is
nothing new, however. The major manufacturers have been doing it for
years.

Ryobi is a mid-market product that
is better than the very cheapest of
the far eastern product such as
Power Devil (Techtronics make this
brand also), but not as good as Makita,
Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc.
which are designed for professional use.

Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.
I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

This is not what the manufacturer says.

Milwaukee is TTI's professional range.

Matt, you should stop making things up.


http://www.ttigroup.com/customPages/Milwaukee.php

"Today, the Milwaukee name stands for the highest quality, durable and
reliable professional tools money can buy"

Matt, that is nice to know, but the Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.

Interesting. Please can you tell me where the manufacturer says that
about this product on their web site.


--

..andy

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:33:58 GMT, "Nick" wrote:

I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw. I
have
seen the Ryobi range in
B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit - perhaps something to build
over the months as needed.

Techtronics are certainly doing a marketing job with their Ryobi brand
in terms of commonality of battery packs between tools. This is
nothing new, however. The major manufacturers have been doing it for
years.

Ryobi is a mid-market product that
is better than the very cheapest of
the far eastern product such as
Power Devil (Techtronics make this
brand also), but not as good as Makita,
Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc.
which are designed for professional use.

Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range. I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.


Yeah!! Just like they use Performance *Pro* range from B&Q. In fact to
quote the review that you pointed out, " The CID182L is best suited to the
serious DIY enthusiasts or occasional user who requires a little more than
what a budget priced drill can offer."

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:33:58 GMT, "Nick" wrote:

I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw. I have
seen the Ryobi range in
B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit - perhaps something to build
over the months as needed.
Usage I give it is "moderate" ... a few times a week for light duty type
use and I tend to look after my kit, by not overloading it. For the drill I
would be looking for a good / smooth variable speed trigger and preferably
two battery packs. If this make is not the best value for money, can anyone
suggest alternatives and where to source at a good price (apart from E-bay)

Thanks,
Nick


I love my DeWalt 18v, but can't compare with other brands I have not
used. Mine are US imports, so dirt cheep, but with no warrenty.

Rick

"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:18:34 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:08:46 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
m...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:24:53 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
news:13d612lk2umflunaub66dg7on3h4sfu5tc@4ax. com...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:33:58 GMT, "Nick" wrote:

I need to replace my battery drill and need a battery circular saw.
I
have
seen the Ryobi range in
B and Q and wondered if it is reasonable kit - perhaps something to
build
over the months as needed.

Techtronics are certainly doing a marketing job with their Ryobi
brand
in terms of commonality of battery packs between tools. This is
nothing new, however. The major manufacturers have been doing it
for
years.

Ryobi is a mid-market product that
is better than the very cheapest of
the far eastern product such as
Power Devil (Techtronics make this
brand also), but not as good as Makita,
Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc.
which are designed for professional use.

Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.
I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

This is not what the manufacturer says.

Milwaukee is TTI's professional range.

Matt, you should stop making things up.


http://www.ttigroup.com/customPages/Milwaukee.php

"Today, the Milwaukee name stands for the highest quality, durable and
reliable professional tools money can buy"

Matt, that is nice to know, but the Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.

Interesting. Please can you tell me where the manufacturer says that
about this product on their web site.

Matt, Royoibi say these people buy their tools:
"woodworkers, craftspeople, and value-conscious contractors worldwide".

Sounds professional enough to me. Now grow up, and stop stroking your
Makita manuals.

Doctor Drivel wrote:

Bearing in mind some on here think DD is really IMM the following does
seem persuasive. But I can't say I have seen many Ryobis on site.
Perhaps things are set to change. I doubt there is more to it than the
battery and charger quality in a Chinese slave production line:

The ONE+ range has Panasonic cells in the batteries, so top quality. Two
batts and a charger is £60 in Screwfix. A 'bare' impact driver £70,
drill/driver £40, saw £60, £60 angle drill, etc. For e.g., the Impact
Driver would be around £200 if it was a Bosch with battery, etc. The Ryobi
battery angle drill (not the ONE+ range) is about £100. The ONE battery
idea is the way to go as you save a fortune, as the batteries command a
large slice of the price. I spoke to the rep, and he said, if they
introduce Lith Ion battery it will be compatible to the ONE range. So, all
you do is buy the new battery type.

Wickes do a similar thing with the 14.4 batteries on the Pro range. The
range is not extensive though.

A recent post on uk.d-i-y from an Aussie mag review:


REVIEW - Ryobi One+ 18v Cordless Tool System - www.onlinetoolreviews.com
"ABCD" wrote in message
...

Grab a coffee though because the complete review of all tools in the system
now stretches over 12,000 words! As you will see, some tools in the system
are better than others...

This is from the site:

"Batteries and Charger

The 18v Ryobi batteries form the basis of the One+ system. Each tool in
the range uses this same battery. NiCad cells rated at 1.7Ah, which
offers reasonable sustainability for cordless tasks. I believe the
cells themselves are of similar high quality to those that Ryobi have
used in their Pro Series line of Cordless tools which have proven to
give good performance.

We certainly have experienced credible performance, in most cases
from these batteries during our testing period.

Care is needed because NiCad can have memory effect issues if not
properly maintained. This generally means only recharging once the
battery is fully depleted, and not recharging half depleted batteries.
It is a good idea if you invest in this system to have at least two
batteries in your kit, or more if you can afford them, because it gives
you more options and allows you to better maintain batteries, and hence
battery life."

I believe the learned charge effect was due to the charging periods of
satellite batteries which were charged on a regular orbit. I have never
come across the problem personally nor heard of it with anyone I have
worked with despite the legends.

There seems to be a so so attitude about the batteries in the above
post but how do you check that a cell in one battery is not defective?
Anyway I would never buy a drill without 2 batteries. It's the
batteries and the charger that get you every time. They are what you
can skimp on and get away with initially if you are making tools.

I think the actual drill itself is much of a muchness. Though I did
fall in love with a DeWalt screwdriver much smaller than my 24 volt
mutli purpose drill-driver and orders of magnitudes better.

As it happens I am using the batteries from that drill in an 18 volt
Power Devil atm. It's held in with string and doesn't look very
professional, so I am looking for a new one. I might give them a try.
Which is the best for a drywalling screwdriver, anyone know?

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
oups.com...

Doctor Drivel wrote:

Bearing in mind some on here think DD is really IMM the following does
seem persuasive. But I can't say I have seen many Ryobis on site.
Perhaps things are set to change. I doubt there is more to it than the
battery and charger quality in a Chinese slave production line:

The ONE+ range has Panasonic cells in the batteries, so top quality. Two
batts and a charger is £60 in Screwfix. A 'bare' impact driver £70,
drill/driver £40, saw £60, £60 angle drill, etc. For e.g., the Impact
Driver would be around £200 if it was a Bosch with battery, etc. The
Ryobi
battery angle drill (not the ONE+ range) is about £100. The ONE battery
idea is the way to go as you save a fortune, as the batteries command a
large slice of the price. I spoke to the rep, and he said, if they
introduce Lith Ion battery it will be compatible to the ONE range. So,
all
you do is buy the new battery type.

Wickes do a similar thing with the 14.4 batteries on the Pro range. The
range is not extensive though.

A recent post on uk.d-i-y from an Aussie mag review:


REVIEW - Ryobi One+ 18v Cordless Tool System -
www.onlinetoolreviews.com
"ABCD" wrote in message
...

Grab a coffee though because the complete review of all tools in the
system
now stretches over 12,000 words! As you will see, some tools in the
system
are better than others...

This is from the site:

"Batteries and Charger

The 18v Ryobi batteries form the basis of the One+ system. Each tool in
the range uses this same battery. NiCad cells rated at 1.7Ah, which
offers reasonable sustainability for cordless tasks. I believe the
cells themselves are of similar high quality to those that Ryobi have
used in their Pro Series line of Cordless tools which have proven to
give good performance.

We certainly have experienced credible performance, in most cases
from these batteries during our testing period.

Care is needed because NiCad can have memory effect issues if not
properly maintained.
This generally means only recharging once the
battery is fully depleted, and not recharging half depleted batteries.
It is a good idea if you invest in this system to have at least two
batteries in your kit, or more if you can afford them, because it gives
you more options and allows you to better maintain batteries, and hence
battery life."

I believe the learned charge effect was due to the charging periods of
satellite batteries which were charged on a regular orbit. I have never
come across the problem personally nor heard of it with anyone I have
worked with despite the legends.



There is no proof that it exists.


There seems to be a so so attitude about the batteries in the above
post but how do you check that a cell in one battery is not defective?
Anyway I would never buy a drill without 2 batteries. It's the
batteries and the charger that get you every time. They are what you
can skimp on and get away with initially if you are making tools.

I think the actual drill itself is much of a muchness. Though I did
fall in love with a DeWalt screwdriver much smaller than my 24 volt
mutli purpose drill-driver and orders of magnitudes better.

As it happens I am using the batteries from that drill in an 18 volt
Power Devil atm. It's held in with string and doesn't look very
professional, so I am looking for a new one. I might give them a try.
Which is the best for a drywalling screwdriver, anyone know?

Rick wrote:

I love my DeWalt 18v, but can't compare with other brands I have not
used. Mine are US imports, so dirt cheap but with no warranty.

I'm very tempted to get one of them. How much are they from the US and
why are they so much cheaper there? And what are you doing about the
charger or did it come with a 230v convertion?

In article ,
Grunff wrote:
Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.

No, it isn't, nor is it sold as that by anyone.

Ryobi stuff is OK, but it simply wouldn't stand up to daily use over a
year.

I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

I'm sure you do.

They're probably the same 'pros' he 'knows' who were using PPPro just a
few months ago and never learn.

--
*Money isn't everything, but it sure keeps the kids in touch.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
"The One+ 18v Impact Driver is another tool in the higher price range of
the system, but it is one worth having in my opinion. Readers may
recall we reviewed the 12v version of this tool previously, which is
part of Ryobi's Professional Line series of tools. This tool is almost
identical design-wise, but the One+ 18v version is a little more
powerful."

Note the word "Professional".

It's an advert, pet.

--
*Horn broken. - Watch for finger.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

To all who have replied - Thanks !

Interesting reading......

I must confees that I purchased a couple of 14.4 Volt "Nutool" drills at
about £18 around 3 years ago... I needed one
for a job and bought another as a present, although ended up keeping that.
I was impressed with the performance, especially of the smooth trigger
response, and the torque it produced - it actually snaps expensive Pozi 2
drive bits if you are being a bit enthusiastic. However at about 3 years the
batteries seem to be dying and I was having a re-think about a better
quality range or maybe I'll just re-fill the packs with fresh cells
I have used my brothers De Walt item, but find it has a poor trigger in
comparison (jerky steps) and he also thought this Nutool was better, but
can't be seen (on-site) with a "cheapo" Nu tool - I don't have any hang-ups
like that.

Replies has given mixed reports but I suppose it depends on what you are
comparing to what. If you are used to a £200 item, the £75 is likely to be
not as good.

I will keep pondering but it seems that Ryobi might be a reasonable
compromise for my use

Thanks again,
Nick

"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
"The One+ 18v Impact Driver is another tool in the higher price range of
the system, but it is one worth having in my opinion. Readers may
recall we reviewed the 12v version of this tool previously, which is
part of Ryobi's Professional Line series of tools. This tool is almost
identical design-wise, but the One+ 18v version is a little more
powerful."

Note the word "Professional".

It's an advert, pet.

The senility has taken hold. It is an independent report. Sad isn't it
they get this way.

"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ,
Grunff wrote:
Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.

No, it isn't, nor is it sold as that by anyone.

Ryobi stuff is OK, but it simply wouldn't
stand up to daily use over a year.

I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

I'm sure you do.

They're probably the same 'pros'

They are probably the same pro who diagnosed his ones senility too.

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
"The One+ 18v Impact Driver is another tool in the higher price range of
the system, but it is one worth having in my opinion. Readers may
recall we reviewed the 12v version of this tool previously, which is
part of Ryobi's Professional Line series of tools. This tool is almost
identical design-wise, but the One+ 18v version is a little more
powerful."

Note the word "Professional".

It's an advert, pet.

The senility has taken hold. It is an independent report. Sad isn't it
they get this way.

They are not pro quality tools, pro-quality ar Hilti, Makita, Dewalt XRP,
and Blue Bosch. The other stuff does not appear on site very often.
Panasonic is good, but not seen in the UK very often, the same as Meabo.

However, I do know some one that uses Ryobi Kit and has not any probs with
it.

Steve

"Stephen Dawson" wrote in message
...

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
"The One+ 18v Impact Driver is another tool in the higher price range
of
the system, but it is one worth having in my opinion. Readers may
recall we reviewed the 12v version of this tool previously, which is
part of Ryobi's Professional Line series of tools. This tool is almost
identical design-wise, but the One+ 18v version is a little more
powerful."

Note the word "Professional".

It's an advert, pet.

The senility has taken hold. It is an independent report. Sad isn't it
they get this way.

They are not pro quality tools,

Which are not?

On 11 Mar 2006 17:12:52 -0800, "Weatherlawyer"
wrote:


Rick wrote:

I love my DeWalt 18v, but can't compare with other brands I have not
used. Mine are US imports, so dirt cheap but with no warranty.

I'm very tempted to get one of them. How much are they from the US and
why are they so much cheaper there? And what are you doing about the
charger or did it come with a 230v convertion?

Google is your friend. Just search on manufacturer and part number.

Pricing is lower in part because of volume, part competition and part
people's price expectations.

Coastal Tool is one reasonable supplier geared up to export but there
are loads of others.

A few tips:

- It is worth buying several tools at once to reduce shipping costs.

- It is worth having your own account with DHL or Fedex and asking the
supplier to use your account. This stops them marking up the
shipping.

- Keep in mind that you will pay shipping costs and then on import,
duty on the product, and VAT on the product and the shipping. Even
so, on some products it is still less expensive than Europe.

- If you want to buy a lot of stuff, it can be cost effective to buy a
cheap flight to the east coast and collect the stuff. You save the
shipping cost and you get a duty and VAT free allowance on your return
of about £140.


- Stick to the well known brands. You will not have a warranty on
most anyway, although Festool does a worldwide one. At least you can
buy most parts in Europe. For U.S. specific ones, www.grainger.com
has spares for most major brands.

- 110v supply is not a problem. For cordless tools, the charger
usually is voltage specific. If you are only going to use cordless
tools, then a 50 or 100VA autotransformer from RS, Maplin, CPC etc. is
adequate. If you want to use corded tools, generally only those with
brush motors are suitable because of the difference between 50 and
60Hz supplies. Most are happy with either. Induction motors may not
be. It's relatively expensive to convert from 50 to 60Hz. You can
run most U.S. corded tools from a yellow site transformer.


--

..andy

In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
It's an advert, pet.

The senility has taken hold. It is an independent report. Sad isn't it
they get this way.

Your naivety shows again. Why do you think they provide this 'report' for
free?

Do you give away fittings from your counter for free?

--
*When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ,
Grunff wrote:
Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.

No, it isn't, nor is it sold as that by anyone.

Ryobi stuff is OK, but it simply wouldn't
stand up to daily use over a year.

I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

I'm sure you do.

They're probably the same 'pros'

They are probably the same pro who diagnosed his ones senility too.

Unlike you I do work in places where subcontractors come in to do the sort
of work that requires power tools. And take an interest in the makes used.
Yet to see any using shed stuff. Of course your boss may well employ
cowboys to fix the adverts above your counter. But then he values your
life rather the same as most here.

--
*Sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains excite me*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Andy Hall wrote:

Coastal Tool is one reasonable supplier geared up to export but there
are loads of others.

A few tips:

- It is worth buying several tools at once to reduce shipping costs.

- It is worth having your own account with DHL or Fedex and asking the
supplier to use your account. This stops them marking up the
shipping.

- Keep in mind that you will pay shipping costs and then on import,
duty on the product, and VAT on the product and the shipping. Even
so, on some products it is still less expensive than Europe.

- If you want to buy a lot of stuff, it can be cost effective to buy a
cheap flight to the east coast and collect the stuff. You save the
shipping cost and you get a duty and VAT free allowance on your return
of about £140.


- Stick to the well known brands. You will not have a warranty on
most anyway, although Festool does a worldwide one. At least you can
buy most parts in Europe. For U.S. specific ones, www.grainger.com
has spares for most major brands.

- 110v supply is not a problem. For cordless tools, the charger
usually is voltage specific. If you are only going to use cordless
tools, then a 50 or 100VA autotransformer from RS, Maplin, CPC etc. is
adequate. If you want to use corded tools, generally only those with
brush motors are suitable because of the difference between 50 and
60Hz supplies. Most are happy with either. Induction motors may not
be. It's relatively expensive to convert from 50 to 60Hz. You can
run most U.S. corded tools from a yellow site transformer.

One site: http://www.toolbarn.com/product/dewalt/DC985KA/ is offering
them cheaper new in the US than Amazon has for second hand ones. DeWalt
of course refrains from advertising on their site. And quite a few
sites are a little light on specifications.

Here is a currency converter: http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi

What I need to do is find someone that travels to the USA regularly.

On 12 Mar 2006 09:04:01 -0800, "Weatherlawyer"
wrote:




One site: http://www.toolbarn.com/product/dewalt/DC985KA/ is offering
them cheaper new in the US than Amazon has for second hand ones. DeWalt
of course refrains from advertising on their site. And quite a few
sites are a little light on specifications.

Here is a currency converter: http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi

What I need to do is find someone that travels to the USA regularly.

I do, but not to Nebraska. It's not a popular business destination.


--

..andy

"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulencewrote in message ...
In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ,
Grunff wrote:
Matt, Ryobi ONE+ is a pro range.

No, it isn't, nor is it sold as that by anyone.

Ryobi stuff is OK, but it simply wouldn't
stand up to daily use over a year.

I know many pros who gone over to Ryobi.

I'm sure you do.

They're probably the same 'pros'

They are probably the same pros who
diagnosed this ones senility too.

Unlike

The senility is getting worse. Very worse. I blame Thatcher for all this.

"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulencewrote in message ...
In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
"The One+ 18v Impact Driver is another tool in the higher price range of
the system, but it is one worth having in my opinion. Readers may
recall we reviewed the 12v version of this tool previously, which is
part of Ryobi's Professional Line series of tools. This tool is almost
identical design-wise, but the One+ 18v version is a little more
powerful."

Note the word "Professional".

It's an advert, pet.

...this senile man he calls me pet
...of inverted gender he must be set
...he gives us info we don't need to know
...down our throats he rams it so

...instictively you will spy
...in newsgroups with DIY
...attempting wisdom this fool will try

...the info's so poor tis clearly true
...so how does this garbage affect you?

...well take no heed of babble and drool
...as this one is a confirmed fool

...he marches around in CAT boots of yellow
...this strange brain damaged sort of fellow

...misadvice he has lots to say
...so don't give this yellow booted half-wit the time of day

"Nick" wrote in message
...

I will keep pondering but it seems that Ryobi might be a reasonable
compromise for my use

BTW, a 2 year professional warrantee too.

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:10:57 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Nick" wrote in message
...

I will keep pondering but it seems that Ryobi might be a reasonable
compromise for my use

BTW, a 2 year professional warrantee too.

There's a 2 year warranty.

Most of the major manufacturers are offering up to 3 year warranties
now, and of course have spares available for repairs after that
expires.

--

..andy

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:10:57 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Nick" wrote in message
...

I will keep pondering but it seems that Ryobi might be a reasonable
compromise for my use

BTW, a 2 year professional warrantee too.

There's a 2 year warranty.

Most of the major manufacturers are offering up to 3 year warranties
now, and of course have spares available for repairs after that
expires.

Makita & crap DeWalt, 3 years? Spares are available for Ryobi.

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:54:45 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:10:57 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Nick" wrote in message
...

I will keep pondering but it seems that Ryobi might be a reasonable
compromise for my use

BTW, a 2 year professional warrantee too.

There's a 2 year warranty.

Most of the major manufacturers are offering up to 3 year warranties
now, and of course have spares available for repairs after that
expires.

Makita & crap DeWalt, 3 years?

Bosch

https://www.bosch-pt.com/warranty/in...language=en-GB

Metabo

http://www.metabo.co.uk/XXL_warranty.4824.0.html


Festool (1+2 warranty)

http://www.festool.co.uk/




Spares are available for Ryobi.

Yes, I noticed. Interesting how Ryobi list the One+ product as part
of their DIY range.

http://www.ryobi-europe.com/mat.asp?...&Famille=ONEPL

But then we knew that.


--

..andy

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:54:45 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:10:57 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Nick" wrote in message
...

I will keep pondering but it seems that Ryobi might be a reasonable
compromise for my use

BTW, a 2 year professional warrantee too.

There's a 2 year warranty.

Most of the major manufacturers are offering up to 3 year warranties
now, and of course have spares available for repairs after that
expires.

Makita & crap DeWalt, 3 years?

Bosch

https://www.bosch-pt.com/warranty/in...language=en-GB

Metabo

http://www.metabo.co.uk/XXL_warranty.4824.0.html


Festool (1+2 warranty)

http://www.festool.co.uk/

Makita? DeWalt?

Spares are available for Ryobi.

Yes, I noticed.

Yep.

Interesting how Ryobi list the One+ product as part
of their DIY range.

They don't.

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:42:44 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message


Most of the major manufacturers are offering up to 3 year warranties
now, and of course have spares available for repairs after that
expires.

Makita & crap DeWalt, 3 years?

Bosch

https://www.bosch-pt.com/warranty/in...language=en-GB

Metabo

http://www.metabo.co.uk/XXL_warranty.4824.0.html


Festool (1+2 warranty)

http://www.festool.co.uk/

Makita? DeWalt?

What about them?

I just said most of the major manufacturers, and that is the case.

There are even some smaller ones like Fein, and Lamello offers 5
years.



Spares are available for Ryobi.

Yes, I noticed.

Yep.

Interesting how Ryobi list the One+ product as part
of their DIY range.

They don't.

Yes they do. Take a look at the link that I posted.

--

..andy

Andy Hall wrote:

What I need to do is find someone that travels to the USA regularly.

I do, but not to Nebraska. It's not a popular business destination.

Want to make a few bob?

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:42:44 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message


Most of the major manufacturers are offering up to 3 year warranties
now, and of course have spares available for repairs after that
expires.

Makita & crap DeWalt, 3 years?

Bosch

https://www.bosch-pt.com/warranty/in...language=en-GB

Metabo

http://www.metabo.co.uk/XXL_warranty.4824.0.html


Festool (1+2 warranty)

http://www.festool.co.uk/

Makita? DeWalt?

What about them?

I just said most of the major manufacturers, and that is the case.

There are even some smaller ones like Fein, and Lamello offers 5
years.



Spares are available for Ryobi.

Yes, I noticed.

Yep.

Interesting how Ryobi list the One+ product as part
of their DIY range.

They don't.

Yes they do. Take a look at the link that I posted.

Take a look at the UK web site. Professional tools. Every pro tool mag I
have has the ONE+ range in it. Just get Protrade in the post, Toolstation
last week, etc.