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Junction boxes
Lighting circuits are now usually 6A instead of 5A. Ring mains are now
usually 32A instead of 30A. However, junction boxes haven't kept up. Is it technically against the regs to use a 30A junction box on a 32A ring main? (and similarly with lighting circuits). Obviously, there is very unlikely to be an actual problem. Christian. |
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No - the cable rating required on a 30 or 32A ring is only 20A, so (in
principle) a 20A junction box would be OK. Obviously I should have said radial circuit. 5A junction boxes are very common. i.e. http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...18802&ts=49771 Is it permitted to use these on a B6A lighting circuit? Christian. |
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"Christian McArdle" wrote in message t... The ratings are actually a circa' rating on all electrical fittings and most will allow for a few more amps to be drawn over their specified markings before they melt. Ah, but are you allowed to *design* using components with a nominal rating below your designed rating? Obviously, there is no practical problem, but would it be illegal (wrt to BS7671) to rely on this? Christian. Here are some examples of what is required by BS 7671 http://www.lioneng.co.uk/ei.htm http://www.ballisticresearch.co.uk/BS7671.htm http://www.pls.co.uk/training_bulletin_3_feb_2002_.htm http://www.pls.co.uk/training_bullet...gust_2001_.htm |
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Junction boxes
Christian McArdle wrote in message
t... No - the cable rating required on a 30 or 32A ring is only 20A, so in principle) a 20A junction box would be OK. Obviously I should have said radial circuit. Hmm, fair point -- but we're splitting hairs here. No-one in their right mind is going to fault you for using a 30A box on a 32A circuit. 5A junction boxes are very common. i.e. http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...18802&ts=49771 So are compact 20A 4-terminal ones, which are what I'd recommend for lighting circuits, for ease of wiring. Is it permitted to use these on a B6A lighting circuit? At most points in most lighting circuits the design current won't exceed 5A anyway and the question won't even arise. In rare cases where the current exceeds 5A there might technically be non-compliance, but it's hair-splitting territory again. Junction boxes are made to BS 6220, which I've never read. It may be that this defines the ratings of 5 & 30A, so stopping manufacturers marking them 6 & 32A (or maybe not). It may be that the ratings are notional and allow a degree of latitude. I can't help thinking that there are more important things to worry about, but if you want to pursue this then ask the manufacturers and/or read the BS -- and let us know what you discover. -- Andy |
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