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Christian McArdle August 28th 03 05:25 PM

Junction boxes
 
Lighting circuits are now usually 6A instead of 5A. Ring mains are now
usually 32A instead of 30A. However, junction boxes haven't kept up. Is it
technically against the regs to use a 30A junction box on a 32A ring main?
(and similarly with lighting circuits). Obviously, there is very unlikely to
be an actual problem.

Christian.



Christian McArdle August 29th 03 10:37 AM

Junction boxes
 
No - the cable rating required on a 30 or 32A ring is only 20A, so (in
principle) a 20A junction box would be OK.


Obviously I should have said radial circuit.

5A junction boxes are very common. i.e.

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...18802&ts=49771

Is it permitted to use these on a B6A lighting circuit?

Christian.



BigWallop August 29th 03 08:41 PM

Junction boxes
 

"Christian McArdle" wrote in message
t...
The ratings are actually a circa' rating on all electrical fittings and
most will allow for a few more amps to be drawn over their specified
markings before they melt.


Ah, but are you allowed to *design* using components with a nominal rating
below your designed rating? Obviously, there is no practical problem, but
would it be illegal (wrt to BS7671) to rely on this?

Christian.



Here are some examples of what is required by BS 7671

http://www.lioneng.co.uk/ei.htm

http://www.ballisticresearch.co.uk/BS7671.htm

http://www.pls.co.uk/training_bulletin_3_feb_2002_.htm

http://www.pls.co.uk/training_bullet...gust_2001_.htm



Andy Wade August 30th 03 01:25 PM

Junction boxes
 
Christian McArdle wrote in message
t...

No - the cable rating required on a 30 or 32A ring is only 20A, so
in principle) a 20A junction box would be OK.


Obviously I should have said radial circuit.


Hmm, fair point -- but we're splitting hairs here. No-one in their right
mind is going to fault you for using a 30A box on a 32A circuit.

5A junction boxes are very common. i.e.
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...18802&ts=49771


So are compact 20A 4-terminal ones, which are what I'd recommend for
lighting circuits, for ease of wiring.

Is it permitted to use these on a B6A lighting circuit?


At most points in most lighting circuits the design current won't exceed 5A
anyway and the question won't even arise. In rare cases where the current
exceeds 5A there might technically be non-compliance, but it's
hair-splitting territory again.

Junction boxes are made to BS 6220, which I've never read. It may be that
this defines the ratings of 5 & 30A, so stopping manufacturers marking them
6 & 32A (or maybe not). It may be that the ratings are notional and allow a
degree of latitude.

I can't help thinking that there are more important things to worry about,
but if you want to pursue this then ask the manufacturers and/or read the
BS -- and let us know what you discover.

--
Andy





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