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"Lobster" wrote in message
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Chris Styles wrote:
They are called DustBubbles. We manufacture them here in Hertfordshire
(UK),

snip spam which I'd have forgiven you for as it was on topic but fir the
fact that you posted it 17 times


Sorry about the multiple posting... I've been having some Outlook Express
problems... it want intentional I can assure you.


So how do you explain what, 17 posts ?

2 I can understand


For more details visit www.dustbubble.com


...or alternatively, visit www.oldenvelope-and-a-bit-of-masking-tape.com


That method is fine, just not very effective.


Works just fine for me, and I have them around when I want them

I bought a dozen dust bubbles for a quid once - I'm buggered if I can
remember what happened to them

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geoff
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So how do you explain what, 17 posts ?

2 I can understand


Each time I tried to post, OE told me there had been an error.

After 5 (more than desired, but less than 17) attempts I gave up and decided
to use google groups instead, at which point I noticed that posted had
started to appear.

As well as replying to the groups, I was also CC'ing an email address and as
OE isnt my mail client (I only use it for NGs) the SMTP part isnt properly
configured, so the error was relating to the CCd email address, but the NG
part of the post had succeeded (though it didnt appear in "sent items" as
the email bit had failed.

I bought a dozen dust bubbles for a quid once - I'm buggered if I can
remember what happened to them


Maybe you used them all, they are very good afterall ...

Immediately after moving (when I needed to do a few jobs) I could find my
stash, and ended up buying some form my local B&Q - that was an odd feeling
:-)


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"Chris Styles" wrote in message
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They are called DustBubbles. We manufacture them here in Hertfordshire
(UK), and they are available in B&Q, and soon to be in Focus and Homebase.
They were in Lowes and Home Depot for a while (but as a 2-man start-up we
didn't have the resources to service the likes of those guys!)

They come in 3 varieties [etc...] would be interested to hear your
feedback...

Thanks

Chris


Chris,

I've tried quite a few and I'm afraid they really don't work very well,
considering the high cost. That is, they sort of work, a bit, most of the
time. Far better to get someone to hold a vac nozzle just under the drilling
site or - if working alone - to use one of the envelope/bag methods
suggested earlier in this thread.



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They are called DustBubbles. We manufacture them here in Hertfordshire (UK),
and they are available in B&Q, and soon to be in Focus and Homebase. They
were in Lowes and Home Depot for a while (but as a 2-man start-up we didn't
have the resources to service the likes of those guys!)

They come in 3 varieties, each one having a different adhesive depending on
the application

- For wallpaper and painted walls (gentle adhesive, will not damage
surface)
- For wood, plaster and untreated surfaces (stronger adhesive, will
stick to bare plaster
- For Tiles (the adhesive is non-slip to stop the drill bit sliding

They might sound like the are a novelty, but they work so well that we sell
a "Contamination Control" kit that has been proven (by the UK Health and
Safety Executive) to be sufficient protection when drilling into walls
containing asbestos. We even have versions that can be used on metal which
are being trialled in the Aerospace and Food preparation industries where
swarf contamination is a genuine disaster.

For more details visit www.dustbubble.com

I have some trial packs that contain 2 of each variety listed above.

If anyone wants to try them out for free, email your postal address to
(remove the nospam) and I'll post a trial pack
to you, and of course would be interested to hear your feedback...

Thanks

Chris




"David Peters" wrote in message
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I want to catch the brick & plaster dust when I drill a hole in
the wall at home.

I usually use my ordinary vaccuum cleaner (held by someone else)
to catch the dust as I drill. It works really well. And it
extracts and remaining debris in the drill hole which might
prevent a wall plug going in.

However the brick & plaster dust block up the vaccuum cleaner's
bag. Yes, it's one of the older vaccuum cleaners with a bag.

How can I fix up something which will trap the dust before it gets
to the bag?

I was thinking of somehow using some filter material: perhaps a
bit of densely woven fabric, or perhaps a square cut fro m an old
vaccuum cleaner bag. Any other ideas of what material to use?

How would this best be secured? Do you think the best arrangement
is to simply trap a piece of this filter material between the
nozzle attachment and the vaccuum cleaner pipe?

Maybe there is something economical I can buy here in the UK to
attach to the vaccuum cleaner to do this job. This Drill Mate
product looks a bit elaborate for infrequent home use and I can't
think it would trap enough of the dust. Does anyone have any
experiences with it?
http://www.mustget1.com/pages/drillmate.html

Any other ideas onhow to trap the masonry dust?

Maybe it is possible to somehow wet the brick with water to
control the dust? Or something else? Use a handheld water mister
spray on the drill bit while drilling?




David

-----------

PS: In the past I used a "ceiling cup" on the drill bit but it
was not as effective as I would have liked.

I've also seen little plastic bag gadgets which you stick to the
wall and drill into to catch the dust but these are too expensive.



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They are called DustBubbles. We manufacture them here in Hertfordshire (UK),
and they are available in B&Q, and soon to be in Focus and Homebase. They
were in Lowes and Home Depot for a while (but as a 2-man start-up we didn't
have the resources to service the likes of those guys!)

They come in 3 varieties, each one having a different adhesive depending on
the application

- For wallpaper and painted walls (gentle adhesive, will not damage
surface)
- For wood, plaster and untreated surfaces (stronger adhesive, will
stick to bare plaster
- For Tiles (the adhesive is non-slip to stop the drill bit sliding

They might sound like the are a novelty, but they work so well that we sell
a "Contamination Control" kit that has been proven (by the UK Health and
Safety Executive) to be sufficient protection when drilling into walls
containing asbestos. We even have versions that can be used on metal which
are being trialled in the Aerospace and Food preparation industries where
swarf contamination is a genuine disaster.

For more details visit www.dustbubble.com

I have some trial packs that contain 2 of each variety listed above.

If anyone wants to try them out for free, email your postal address to
(remove the nospam) and I'll post a trial pack
to you, and of course would be interested to hear your feedback...

Thanks

Chris


"David Peters" wrote in message
...
I want to catch the brick & plaster dust when I drill a hole in
the wall at home.

I usually use my ordinary vaccuum cleaner (held by someone else)
to catch the dust as I drill. It works really well. And it
extracts and remaining debris in the drill hole which might
prevent a wall plug going in.

However the brick & plaster dust block up the vaccuum cleaner's
bag. Yes, it's one of the older vaccuum cleaners with a bag.

How can I fix up something which will trap the dust before it gets
to the bag?

I was thinking of somehow using some filter material: perhaps a
bit of densely woven fabric, or perhaps a square cut fro m an old
vaccuum cleaner bag. Any other ideas of what material to use?

How would this best be secured? Do you think the best arrangement
is to simply trap a piece of this filter material between the
nozzle attachment and the vaccuum cleaner pipe?

Maybe there is something economical I can buy here in the UK to
attach to the vaccuum cleaner to do this job. This Drill Mate
product looks a bit elaborate for infrequent home use and I can't
think it would trap enough of the dust. Does anyone have any
experiences with it?
http://www.mustget1.com/pages/drillmate.html

Any other ideas onhow to trap the masonry dust?

Maybe it is possible to somehow wet the brick with water to
control the dust? Or something else? Use a handheld water mister
spray on the drill bit while drilling?




David

-----------

PS: In the past I used a "ceiling cup" on the drill bit but it
was not as effective as I would have liked.

I've also seen little plastic bag gadgets which you stick to the
wall and drill into to catch the dust but these are too expensive.





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They are called DustBubbles. We manufacture them here in Hertfordshire (UK),
and they are available in B&Q, and soon to be in Focus and Homebase. They
were in Lowes and Home Depot for a while (but as a 2-man start-up we didn't
have the resources to service the likes of those guys!)

They come in 3 varieties, each one having a different adhesive depending on
the application

- For wallpaper and painted walls (gentle adhesive, will not damage
surface)
- For wood, plaster and untreated surfaces (stronger adhesive, will
stick to bare plaster
- For Tiles (the adhesive is non-slip to stop the drill bit sliding

They might sound like the are a novelty, but they work so well that we sell
a "Contamination Control" kit that has been proven (by the UK Health and
Safety Executive) to be sufficient protection when drilling into walls
containing asbestos. We even have versions that can be used on metal which
are being trialled in the Aerospace and Food preparation industries where
swarf contamination is a genuine disaster.

For more details visit www.dustbubble.com

I have some trial packs that contain 2 of each variety listed above.

If anyone wants to try them out for free, email your postal address to
(remove the nospam) and I'll post a trial pack
to you, and of course would be interested to hear your feedback...

Thanks

Chris

"David Peters" wrote in message
...
I want to catch the brick & plaster dust when I drill a hole in
the wall at home.

I usually use my ordinary vaccuum cleaner (held by someone else)
to catch the dust as I drill. It works really well. And it
extracts and remaining debris in the drill hole which might
prevent a wall plug going in.

However the brick & plaster dust block up the vaccuum cleaner's
bag. Yes, it's one of the older vaccuum cleaners with a bag.

How can I fix up something which will trap the dust before it gets
to the bag?

I was thinking of somehow using some filter material: perhaps a
bit of densely woven fabric, or perhaps a square cut fro m an old
vaccuum cleaner bag. Any other ideas of what material to use?

How would this best be secured? Do you think the best arrangement
is to simply trap a piece of this filter material between the
nozzle attachment and the vaccuum cleaner pipe?

Maybe there is something economical I can buy here in the UK to
attach to the vaccuum cleaner to do this job. This Drill Mate
product looks a bit elaborate for infrequent home use and I can't
think it would trap enough of the dust. Does anyone have any
experiences with it?
http://www.mustget1.com/pages/drillmate.html

Any other ideas onhow to trap the masonry dust?

Maybe it is possible to somehow wet the brick with water to
control the dust? Or something else? Use a handheld water mister
spray on the drill bit while drilling?




David

-----------

PS: In the past I used a "ceiling cup" on the drill bit but it
was not as effective as I would have liked.

I've also seen little plastic bag gadgets which you stick to the
wall and drill into to catch the dust but these are too expensive.



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They are called DustBubbles. We manufacture them here in Hertfordshire (UK),
and they are available in B&Q, and soon to be in Focus and Homebase. They
were in Lowes and Home Depot for a while (but as a 2-man start-up we didn't
have the resources to service the likes of those guys!)

They come in 3 varieties, each one having a different adhesive depending on
the application

- For wallpaper and painted walls (gentle adhesive, will not damage
surface)
- For wood, plaster and untreated surfaces (stronger adhesive, will
stick to bare plaster
- For Tiles (the adhesive is non-slip to stop the drill bit sliding

They might sound like the are a novelty, but they work so well that we sell
a "Contamination Control" kit that has been proven (by the UK Health and
Safety Executive) to be sufficient protection when drilling into walls
containing asbestos. We even have versions that can be used on metal which
are being trialled in the Aerospace and Food preparation industries where
swarf contamination is a genuine disaster.

For more details visit www.dustbubble.com

I have some trial packs that contain 2 of each variety listed above.

If anyone wants to try them out for free, email your postal address to
(remove the nospam) and I'll post a trial pack
to you, and of course would be interested to hear your feedback...

Thanks

Chris



"David Peters" wrote in message
...
I want to catch the brick & plaster dust when I drill a hole in
the wall at home.

I usually use my ordinary vaccuum cleaner (held by someone else)
to catch the dust as I drill. It works really well. And it
extracts and remaining debris in the drill hole which might
prevent a wall plug going in.

However the brick & plaster dust block up the vaccuum cleaner's
bag. Yes, it's one of the older vaccuum cleaners with a bag.

How can I fix up something which will trap the dust before it gets
to the bag?

I was thinking of somehow using some filter material: perhaps a
bit of densely woven fabric, or perhaps a square cut fro m an old
vaccuum cleaner bag. Any other ideas of what material to use?

How would this best be secured? Do you think the best arrangement
is to simply trap a piece of this filter material between the
nozzle attachment and the vaccuum cleaner pipe?

Maybe there is something economical I can buy here in the UK to
attach to the vaccuum cleaner to do this job. This Drill Mate
product looks a bit elaborate for infrequent home use and I can't
think it would trap enough of the dust. Does anyone have any
experiences with it?
http://www.mustget1.com/pages/drillmate.html

Any other ideas onhow to trap the masonry dust?

Maybe it is possible to somehow wet the brick with water to
control the dust? Or something else? Use a handheld water mister
spray on the drill bit while drilling?




David

-----------

PS: In the past I used a "ceiling cup" on the drill bit but it
was not as effective as I would have liked.

I've also seen little plastic bag gadgets which you stick to the
wall and drill into to catch the dust but these are too expensive.



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Really effective dust control devices are expensive, so are not suited
for occasional home use. Even a vacuum (or shop vac) will only get the
larger particles; some dust will get through even the finest filter.

My suggestion for this project would be to have a long hose and a helper
for your vacuum. Remove the bag from the vacuum (to increase suction),
set the vacuum outside, run the hose inside, and let the dust fall over
the yard where mother nature can take care of it. You could even leave
the bag on if you want to minimize the mess in the yard.

David Peters wrote:

I want to catch the brick & plaster dust when I drill a hole in
the wall at home.

I usually use my ordinary vaccuum cleaner (held by someone else)
to catch the dust as I drill. It works really well. And it
extracts and remaining debris in the drill hole which might
prevent a wall plug going in.

However the brick & plaster dust block up the vaccuum cleaner's
bag. Yes, it's one of the older vaccuum cleaners with a bag.

How can I fix up something which will trap the dust before it gets
to the bag?

I was thinking of somehow using some filter material: perhaps a
bit of densely woven fabric, or perhaps a square cut fro m an old
vaccuum cleaner bag. Any other ideas of what material to use?

How would this best be secured? Do you think the best arrangement
is to simply trap a piece of this filter material between the
nozzle attachment and the vaccuum cleaner pipe?

Maybe there is something economical I can buy here in the UK to
attach to the vaccuum cleaner to do this job. This Drill Mate
product looks a bit elaborate for infrequent home use and I can't
think it would trap enough of the dust. Does anyone have any
experiences with it? http://www.mustget1.com/pages/drillmate.html

Any other ideas onhow to trap the masonry dust?

Maybe it is possible to somehow wet the brick with water to
control the dust? Or something else? Use a handheld water mister
spray on the drill bit while drilling?




David

-----------

PS: In the past I used a "ceiling cup" on the drill bit but it
was not as effective as I would have liked.

I've also seen little plastic bag gadgets which you stick to the
wall and drill into to catch the dust but these are too expensive.

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