i have a keston 130 condensing boiler. it has started playing up. the
heating is not working and the bolier keeps cutting out. i have called
Keston who have suggested it could be that the strainer needs cleaning.
this entails shutting the valves either sde of it. taking it off and
cleaning it out. problem is although i can isolate this i cannot get
the nuts to undo. the nuts are huge and i do not have an adjustable
spanner big enough so i am using a set of pump pliers. however i dont
really like doing this as it tends to mash the nuts. does any one have
any suggestions.

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i have a keston 130 condensing boiler. it has started playing up. the
heating is not working and the bolier keeps cutting out. i have called
Keston who have suggested it could be that the strainer needs cleaning.
this entails shutting the valves either sde of it. taking it off and
cleaning it out. problem is although i can isolate this i cannot get
the nuts to undo. the nuts are huge and i do not have an adjustable
spanner big enough so i am using a set of pump pliers. however i dont
really like doing this as it tends to mash the nuts. does any one have
any suggestions.


The only possible suggestion would be to go and buy or hire the correct
tool(s) for this job as there is no other way to undo the nut(s) without
damage using a set of pump pliers.


Brian G

In article . com,
wrote:
the nuts are huge and i do not have an adjustable
spanner big enough so i am using a set of pump pliers.

You may be able to get a suitable spanner or socket at Halfords or
another motor spares supplier.

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thanks for suggestions. i will get a large adjustable spanner.
however if the nuts are ceased how will i unlock them

b33k34 wrote:
thanks for suggestions. i will get a large adjustable spanner.
however if the nuts are ceased how will i unlock them

Use a heat spanner if you can.

wrote:
thanks for suggestions. i will get a large adjustable spanner.
however if the nuts are ceased how will i unlock them

What you really should do is obtain a pair of adjustable spanners (with long
handles for leverage if possible) and use one to 'hold the strainer' and
then use the other one to turn the nut. Using this method will usually
slacken the nut which is likely to be tight but not siezed.

If you find that the nut has seized then you can try soaking it overnight
with WD40 or you can apply heat to it using a blowlamp (making sure that
there is nothing flammable nearby) and try turning it whilst it is still
warm (taking care not to burn yourself).

Brian G

In article .com,
writes
thanks for suggestions. i will get a large adjustable spanner.
however if the nuts are ceased how will i unlock them

Try cleaning off any scale deposits first by vigorous brushing with a
wire brush before a good soaking with WD40.
--
Jerry

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thanks for suggestions. i will get a large adjustable spanner.
however if the nuts are ceased how will i unlock them


If the nuts have ceased then presumably they have ceased to be a
problem !

If however they have SEIZED then the problem persists and they need
unseizing G

AWEM

"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message
...


If the nuts have ceased then presumably they have ceased to be a
problem !

If however they have SEIZED then the problem persists and they need
unseizing G

.... ... and presumably when they have been unseized they become deceased?

"Brian G" wrote:


If you find that the nut has seized then you can try soaking it overnight
with WD40

WD40 is not nor has ever been a penetrating fluid. It's a water
dispersant.



--

Matt wrote:
"Brian G" wrote:


If you find that the nut has seized then you can try soaking it
overnight with WD40

WD40 is not nor has ever been a penetrating fluid. It's a water
dispersant.

Makes a damn good penetrating oil on most of the seized nuts that I have had
over the years (and many other applocations such as cleaning up silicone
mastic) - and in fact you are slightly wrong, it can be used as a water
dispersant but it is not specifically designed for that. In fact there was
a a specific product for this that I used to use the wet ignition of on my
old mini many, many years ago but for the life of me I cannot recall the
name (the use of WD40 was not recommended for that then)

By the way, this advertising blurb was taken directly from the WD40 website
at http://www.wd40.com/Brands/index.html:

With literally thousands of uses, WD-40 is the #1 multi-purpose problem
solver. It cleans, protects, penetrates, lubricates and displaces moisture
like no other product on earth.

Brian G

have to admit the spelling looked decidedly dodgy. not my strongest
point.

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:22:05 +0000, Matt
wrote:

WD40 is not nor has ever been a penetrating fluid. It's a water
dispersant.

Is this the DIY newsgroup equivalent of Godwin's Law?



(If you think WD40 is penetrating fluid, do yourself a favour and try
some real Plus-Gas)

" Makes a damn good penetrating oil on most of the seized nuts that I have
had
over the years (and many other applocations such as cleaning up silicone
mastic) - and in fact you are slightly wrong, it can be used as a water
dispersant but it is not specifically designed for that. In fact there
was
a a specific product for this that I used to use the wet ignition of on my
old mini many, many years ago but for the life of me I cannot recall the
name (the use of WD40 was not recommended for that then)



I reckon you must mean Holts Damp Start - brilliant stuff I thought - seemed
to plastic coat
things it was sprayed on...

Nick

Andy Dingley wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:22:05 +0000, Matt
wrote:

WD40 is not nor has ever been a penetrating fluid. It's a water
dispersant.

Is this the DIY newsgroup equivalent of Godwin's Law?



(If you think WD40 is penetrating fluid, do yourself a favour and try
some real Plus-Gas)

I haven't used that for years. The most memorable occasion for me to use
that was back in the 'seventies' when I was trying to part a rather
reluctant hydrolastic pipe connector to renew the rusty subframe on a mini
and due the different metals, this was the only penetrating fluid that did
the job - after soaking the bl**dy connector in the stuff for forty eight
hours - ah the good old days! :-)

But to go back to "Godwins Law", I have used WD40 for many, many years to
'release' nuts, bolts and other components with great success - its also
very handy to clean surplus silicone mastic off the hands and clothes, great
for killing wasps (turns 'em black) and for clearing out wasp nests.
Fantastic for cleaning dirt and grime off components, makes curtains rails
'slippy' to stop the wife tugging at the pull cords, makes the old measuring
tapes glide into their housings etc, etc ,etc.

Never out of my toolkit now!

Brian G

Nick wrote:
" Makes a damn good penetrating oil on most of the seized nuts that
I have had
over the years (and many other applocations such as cleaning up
silicone mastic) - and in fact you are slightly wrong, it can be
used as a water dispersant but it is not specifically designed for
that. In fact there was
a a specific product for this that I used to use the wet ignition of
on my old mini many, many years ago but for the life of me I cannot
recall the name (the use of WD40 was not recommended for that then)



I reckon you must mean Holts Damp Start - brilliant stuff I thought -
seemed to plastic coat
things it was sprayed on...

Nick

Nick,

Remind me to give you a coconut sometime, that was the stuff, and as you say
it was brilliant and it got me out of trouble a few times. LOL

Brian G

In message , Tony Bryer
writes
In article . com,
wrote:
the nuts are huge and i do not have an adjustable
spanner big enough so i am using a set of pump pliers.

You may be able to get a suitable spanner or socket at Halfords or
another motor spares supplier.


An ExSpanner is prolly best for ceased nuts

--
geoff

Tony Bryer wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

the nuts are huge and i do not have an adjustable
spanner big enough so i am using a set of pump pliers.


You may be able to get a suitable spanner or socket at Halfords or
another motor spares supplier.


lol, I wish.

I ended up buying a "proper" spanner when I replaced the CH pump
recently; bought a single spanner (32mm, I think) for something like a
tenner from a machine / fastener outlet (real man place) - felt great
walking away from the shop with this 2 foot long spanner.

In all seriousness, get the right tool for the job, a few quid spent
will save a lot of heart-ache (also, wrist / arm ache from the crappy
pump pliers) and possibly avoid unnecessary damage

In article ,
Brian G wrote:
With literally thousands of uses, WD-40 is the #1 multi-purpose problem
solver. It cleans, protects, penetrates, lubricates and displaces
moisture like no other product on earth.

True. Most ones designed for the specific job do it better.

--
*There's no place like www.home.com *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Andy Dingley wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:22:05 +0000, Matt
wrote:

WD40 is not nor has ever been a penetrating fluid. It's a water
dispersant.

Is this the DIY newsgroup equivalent of Godwin's Law?



(If you think WD40 is penetrating fluid, do yourself a favour and try
some real Plus-Gas)

Or try some of the (newish) Loctite freeze penetrant - absolutely
amazing stuff. The aerosol equivalent of an oxy-acetylene attack
without the smoke.




--

It smells nice too - although I don't think it's supposed to be one of
its uses!

one that's shuffled off this mortal coil, and gone to meet its maker...

wrote in message
ups.com...

i have a keston 130 condensing boiler. it has started playing up. the
heating is not working and the bolier keeps cutting out. i have called
Keston who have suggested it could be that the strainer needs cleaning.
this entails shutting the valves either sde of it. taking it off and
cleaning it out. problem is although i can isolate this i cannot get
the nuts to undo. the nuts are huge and i do not have an adjustable
spanner big enough so i am using a set of pump pliers. however i dont
really like doing this as it tends to mash the nuts. does any one have
any suggestions.

Get a large "socket". Also flush the system as it is full crud, insert
desludger for a week or so, drain, flush a few times, and refill with
inhibitor X-100.

wrote:

I knew there would be some downside to storing my ng password on the
laptop. She may be handy with a spanner but not so hot with a
dictionary. At least it's warm again at home.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Brian G"
saying something like:

With literally thousands of uses, WD-40 is the #1 multi-purpose problem
solver. It cleans, protects, penetrates, lubricates and displaces moisture
like no other product on earth.

Nobody knows what the 'WD' bit stands for though. Some have it that it's
'Water Displacer', others stand by the more technical explanation of it
being a project number and it was the 40th one tried.

Personally, given I've found it's inferior to other products in almost
any application, I've come to the conclusion that 'WD' stands for
'Wallet Depleter'.
--
Dave
GS850x2 SE6a
I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me.

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:09:31 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

Personally, given I've found it's inferior to other products in almost
any application, I've come to the conclusion that 'WD' stands for
'Wallet Depleter'.

Heard the other day that Asda (I think) have special mini packs of
WD40 designed for hinges - something like 7 grams of WD40 for "only" 2
quid!




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