On 2005-10-30, Peter Parry wrote:
On 29 Oct 2005 20:11:14 -0700, "
wrote:


In short, can a diyer do a course that would allow me to be 'a
competent person' considering I've no other electical qualifications at
all ?

No. Part P has little or nothing to do with competence. It is
mainly a bureaucratic procedure designed to put one man companies
out of business as Mr Brown thinks they find it too easy to evade his
nice taxes.

No matter how competent you might be your company must be a member of
an "approved scheme", cost of this starts at about GBP700 I believe.
It is the company, not the individual, which is registered (in the
case of a sole trader they are the same of course) and which has to
pay the annual fees.

You therefore have a situation where a vastly experienced and well
qualified commercial electrician is not allowed to move a socket in
his kitchen but a spotty yoof with no experience, no qualification
and minimal training can be employed to do it for him so long as said
yoof works for an accredited company.


OK, I get the part about the _company_ being accredited and it's
employees can know bugger all about electrics ..... So, where can
I find an acredited company who'll "recruit" me so I can then work
for free on my home wiring?

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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:57:52 GMT, Peter Lynch
wrote:

OK, I get the part about the _company_ being accredited and it's
employees can know bugger all about electrics ..... So, where can
I find an acredited company who'll "recruit" me so I can then work
for free on my home wiring?

For a wage of, say, (minus) 25 quid a lifetime?

I be prepared to bet it's going on. ;-))

DG

"Derek ^" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:57:52 GMT, Peter Lynch
wrote:

OK, I get the part about the _company_ being accredited and it's
employees can know bugger all about electrics ..... So, where can
I find an acredited company who'll "recruit" me so I can then work
for free on my home wiring?

For a wage of, say, (minus) 25 quid a lifetime?

I be prepared to bet it's going on. ;-))

DG

Beg to differ with everyones opinion of Part P, but the quality of the
installer work is assessed and the technical abilities of the supervisors is
also assessed so that they can perform the Qualifying Supervisors role. This
person ( and this is the weak bit) is responsobile for ensuring that the
quality is maintained.

I have got to say however, I am not in favour of this scheme because it is
difficult to enforce. What should have been done is prevent the sale of
electrical items to the general public unless the purchaser is licensed,
same for gas, but this goverment has not got the balls to do that.

I to am frustrated with having to pay to register for something I have been
doing for 15 years.

Regards

Steve Dawson

Stephen Dawson wrote:

What should have been done is prevent the sale of electrical items to
the general public unless the purchaser is licensed, same for gas,
but this goverment has not got the balls to do that.

Oh no - that would lead to even worse bodging, if proper materials
weren't readily available. And anyway there's no restriction on the
sale of gas parts to the general public, is there?

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Andy