please can someone help

my husband used the power spray on the car and the next thing we had
water gushing down from the loft through the airing cupboard and down
to the kitchen.

he stopped the water but now then we had no hot water.
the control box was not working.

so we used the emersion heater to get hot water.

we have bought a new heating and hot water computer/control panel and
put that on.
it looks as though its working and all the display is up.

we still have NO heating and i'm freezing !!!!!
we have bought all the 3 amp fuses that wickes had on there shelf.
as soon as we put one in, it blows?
my husband, Bless him has tried everything

please please can someone HELP !!!!!!!!!!

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please can someone help

my husband used the power spray on the car and the next thing we had
water gushing down from the loft through the airing cupboard and down
to the kitchen.

Ok, probably utter coincidence.

he stopped the water but now then we had no hot water.
the control box was not working.

so we used the emersion heater to get hot water.

(Immersion)

we have bought a new heating and hot water computer/control panel and
put that on.
it looks as though its working and all the display is up.

we still have NO heating and i'm freezing !!!!!

Perfect excuse for a fur coat

we have bought all the 3 amp fuses that wickes had on there shelf.
as soon as we put one in, it blows?
my husband, Bless him has tried everything

Ok, some details might be handy.

Do you have gas/oil/electric/solar/coal/wood/geothermal heating?
DO NOT put a higher rated fuse in.

I assume it's a gas boiler, with a hot water storage tank, fed from a
cold water tank?
What model is the boiler?
Could any water possibly have gotten to it?
It's possible (though not especially likely) that the boiler has been
damaged by the failing/wet programmer.

It's more likely that the new one has been wired up incorrectly, and there
is some sort of short in the wiring.
(this is unfortunatley if the case more likely to have damaged the boiler)

its a gas boiler-pilot light still on
not at home to give details of model.
could not have been wired up wrong as no wiring touched, we got a new
timer control 'thingy' and plugged the new front panel to the exiating
control box still fixed to the wall.
there is a black mark now above one of the pins in the back of this as
yet another fuse blew.
so thinking it could be a bad, new one we purchased yet another, but
still the fuses keep blowing.

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its a gas boiler-pilot light still on
not at home to give details of model.
could not have been wired up wrong as no wiring touched, we got a new
timer control 'thingy' and plugged the new front panel to the exiating
control box still fixed to the wall.
there is a black mark now above one of the pins in the back of this as
yet another fuse blew.
so thinking it could be a bad, new one we purchased yet another, but
still the fuses keep blowing.


Are you sure the wiring for the new timing programmer is same as that for
the old one?

I think you need to get an electrician in asap.

Rob

they looked the same, so we asumed the wiring would be ok.
yeh.....i know don't ever asume.....
the electrician has been contacted and we are waiting for a reply,
saw you guys on the net and thought i would just ask,
sorry i couldn't give more info
thanks for the help.
any idea where i could get a wiring diagramme?
as that would be a great help also.
cheers

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its a gas boiler-pilot light still on
not at home to give details of model.
could not have been wired up wrong as no wiring touched, we got a new
timer control 'thingy' and plugged the new front panel to the exiating
control box still fixed to the wall.
there is a black mark now above one of the pins in the back of this as
yet another fuse blew.
so thinking it could be a bad, new one we purchased yet another, but
still the fuses keep blowing.

Does the fuse blow with the programmer plugged in, but both heating and
hot water switched off? Or when hot water only is selected? Or when both?

Some basic fault finding is needed to give a diagnosis.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

my husband has tried this every which way,
one then the other and then with both off
pilot light stays on and the fuses keep blowing as soon as they are put
in.

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my husband has tried this every which way,
one then the other and then with both off
pilot light stays on and the fuses keep blowing as soon as they are put

If they blow with the system switched off so just the programmer is
running, its wiring or connection is likely to be the trouble. If it
'flashed' over due to water it's possible this has left a conductive
track. So best to change the back plate for the one that came with the new
timer - and check the condition of the cables at the same time. Mark each
cable as you remove them to make sure they are replaced in the same way.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

DAVE
PLEASE SEE NEW THREAD...BLOWING FUSES 2
IT HAS MORE INFO

wrote:

please can someone help

my husband used the power spray on the car and the next thing we had
water gushing down from the loft through the airing cupboard and down
to the kitchen.

why, header tank overflow, burst pipe?


he stopped the water but now then we had no hot water.
the control box was not working.

gas CH? Somethnig else?
In what way not working?


so we used the emersion heater to get hot water.

we have bought a new heating and hot water computer/control panel and
put that on.

why? Onto which the gas CH or the immersion HW?


it looks as though its working and all the display is up.

we still have NO heating and i'm freezing !!!!!
we have bought all the 3 amp fuses that wickes had on there shelf.
as soon as we put one in, it blows?

in where?


my husband, Bless him has tried everything

please please can someone HELP !!!!!!!!!!

give us a clue first. At this point all I could guess is that probably
water has got onto electrics somewhere, and youve fixed the water leak.
Leave it a week to dry out before powering up and it should all work
fine again. But with so little info I cant be sure by any means.


NT

firstly, he was washing the car with a jet power spray thing, and i was
painting in the bathroom, i heard water gushing and on looking in the
airing cupboard water was running down the wall,the same wall that all
the wires and plugs etc are on for the heating and hot water,
we have a seperate hw emersion switch and that seems to be fine at
least we can get hw.
we have a control panel that controls , time settings for the hw and
ch.
this has a detachable front.
we bought a new one,and just repalced the front panel,still the fuses
kept blowing as soon as they are put in.
we thought that the new panel we bought could have been a dud so we got
another one, but still the same. on the back of the detachable front
panel are small pins, and above the second one in fron the left there
is a scortch mark obviously residue from the fuse blowing.
i think its a gloworm system.
the system has not been used for the last2 weeks, surely this should
have dried it out.
we have also bought a new thermostat, just in case it was that.
but still the fuses keep blowing.
the fuses blow as soon as they are put in. its instant.

wrote:
firstly, he was washing the car with a jet power spray thing, and i was
painting in the bathroom, i heard water gushing and on looking in the
airing cupboard water was running down the wall,the same wall that all
the wires and plugs etc are on for the heating and hot water,
we have a seperate hw emersion switch and that seems to be fine at
least we can get hw.
we have a control panel that controls , time settings for the hw and
ch.
this has a detachable front.
we bought a new one,and just repalced the front panel,still the fuses
kept blowing as soon as they are put in.
we thought that the new panel we bought could have been a dud so we got
another one, but still the same. on the back of the detachable front
panel are small pins, and above the second one in fron the left there
is a scortch mark obviously residue from the fuse blowing.
i think its a gloworm system.
the system has not been used for the last2 weeks, surely this should
have dried it out.
we have also bought a new thermostat, just in case it was that.
but still the fuses keep blowing.
the fuses blow as soon as they are put in. its instant.

1) we have a control panel...we bought a new one
2) we thought that the new panel we bought could have been a dud...we
got another one
3) we have also bought a new thermostat...just in case

These people have far too much money in my opinion!

no not money!!!
just a freezing wife!!
i do not do cold....
and these can be taken back to the shop and money reenbursed. ok

richard
thanks for aALL your expertise of help in this matter

wrote:
no not money!!!
just a freezing wife!!
i do not do cold....
and these can be taken back to the shop and money reenbursed. ok

richard
thanks for aALL your expertise of help in this matter


I'm just concerned that you didn't sound alarmed about all the water and
didn't mention having fixed that problem!

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no not money!!!
just a freezing wife!!


Freezing ?


i do not do cold....
and these can be taken back to the shop and money reenbursed. ok


--
geoff

Richard Conway wrote:
wrote:
firstly, he was washing the car with a jet power spray thing, and i was
painting in the bathroom, i heard water gushing and on looking in the
airing cupboard water was running down the wall,the same wall that all
the wires and plugs etc are on for the heating and hot water,
snip
1) we have a control panel...we bought a new one
2) we thought that the new panel we bought could have been a dud...we
got another one
3) we have also bought a new thermostat...just in case

These people have far too much money in my opinion!

The 'back' can also be damaged by water, and lead to problems.
You may need to replace it.

Ian Stirling wrote:
Richard Conway wrote:

wrote:

firstly, he was washing the car with a jet power spray thing, and i was
painting in the bathroom, i heard water gushing and on looking in the
airing cupboard water was running down the wall,the same wall that all
the wires and plugs etc are on for the heating and hot water,

snip

1) we have a control panel...we bought a new one
2) we thought that the new panel we bought could have been a dud...we
got another one
3) we have also bought a new thermostat...just in case

These people have far too much money in my opinion!


The 'back' can also be damaged by water, and lead to problems.
You may need to replace it.

I'm not going near it

wrote:

we bought a new one,and just repalced the front panel,still the fuses
kept blowing as soon as they are put in.
we thought that the new panel we bought could have been a dud so we got
another one, but still the same. on the back of the detachable front
panel are small pins, and above the second one in fron the left there
is a scortch mark obviously residue from the fuse blowing.
i think its a gloworm system.
the system has not been used for the last2 weeks, surely this should
have dried it out.

yes


we have also bought a new thermostat, just in case it was that.
but still the fuses keep blowing.
the fuses blow as soon as they are put in. its instant.

The you, or someone with the ability, needs to trace the fault.
Otherwise youre wasting your time replacing one item after another at
random.

I'd start by putting the original controller back in, at least
everythings wired up right then.


NT

PLEASE SEE NEW THREAD...BLOWING FUSES 2
MORE INFO

wrote:


we have bought all the 3 amp fuses that wickes had on there shelf.

3 amps? that's your problem you need to move up to bigger fuses and
then when they run out use cut down heavy gauge nails Eventually you
will get a very big bang and the source of the problem will be obvious
:-)


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In message , Matt
writes
wrote:


we have bought all the 3 amp fuses that wickes had on there shelf.

3 amps? that's your problem you need to move up to bigger fuses and
then when they run out use cut down heavy gauge nails Eventually you
will get a very big bang and the source of the problem will be obvious
:-)



The brass shafts from old potentiometers make great replacements for 13A
fuses, never had one blow yet!


P.S. DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bill

Bill wrote:

The brass shafts from old potentiometers make great replacements for 13A
fuses, never had one blow yet!

You must be old - I was buying them with plastic shafts in the 70's.
The only time I got to see metal ones was in scrap equipment donated
to me!

.......wonder what current they take to blow.


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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bill wrote:


The brass shafts from old potentiometers make great replacements for
13A fuses, never had one blow yet!


You may jest - but I've seen it done - without any ill effects , as it
happens.

The workshop in the place where I worked in the 60's was 'modernised' by
replacing all the 15A outlets with 13A outlets, and the plugs were changed
on all the kit. A MIG welder which had worked perfectly well with an unfused
15A plug started blowing 13A fuses in its new plug. You can guess the rest!

As far as I can recall, the wiring wasn't changed - they were radial
circuits, fused at the MCB, so using a solid 'fuse' in the plug wasn't
really a big issue - but isn't to be recommended for general use!
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Set Square
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In message , Set Square
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bill wrote:


The brass shafts from old potentiometers make great replacements for
13A fuses, never had one blow yet!


You may jest - but I've seen it done - without any ill effects , as it
happens.

So have I. It was not a jest!
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Bill

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please can someone help

my husband used the power spray on the car and the next thing we had
water gushing down from the loft through the airing cupboard and down
to the kitchen.

he stopped the water but now then we had no hot water.
the control box was not working.

so we used the emersion heater to get hot water.

we have bought a new heating and hot water computer/control panel and
put that on.
it looks as though its working and all the display is up.

we still have NO heating and i'm freezing !!!!!
we have bought all the 3 amp fuses that wickes had on there shelf.
as soon as we put one in, it blows?
my husband, Bless him has tried everything

please please can someone HELP !!!!!!!!!!

Your lack of much useful information makes it difficult to give a
constructive reply

--
geoff