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From what I understand its best to protect outdoor electrics using an
RCD. Why is this an OK solution? Basically, because there's next to no chance you'll get electrocuted by most light fittings. I'd be more concerned if the light fittings are largely metallic and not double insulated. I would generally say it was preferable to RCD outdoor lighting, but is rarely essential. Note that TT earthed installations always require an RCD, but there are methods to reduce nuisance tripping. No. I would not share outdoor circuits with RCDed indoor circuits. Whats the reason behind this? Because outdoor circuits are subject to moisture that can cause nuisance tripping. When this occurs, it is best that it doesn't turn off all your sockets, taking out your computer, TV and even fridge/freezer in some cases. So is it better for me to extend my existing lighting circuit to accomodate the downstairs lights or if not possible what can I do to make a safe installation using the existing indoor RCD'ed circuits? It would be OK on the lighting circuit, but best on its own circuit. It is not possible to modify the indoor RCD circuit to remove the possibility of the outdoor circuits providing nuisance trips. I need to understand that if this is currently a spur from the existing lighting circuit or the ring main how I can effectivly control two installations from the one spur. As I understand it should be one spur per fitting?? No, this would be fine. The lighting circuits need to be off a fused connection unit, as lighting circuits must normally be fused at 10A or below (some fittings must be 6A or below). Normally, you would use a connection unit with a 5A fuse. This can then drive the dual gang switch, which should either be DP (preferable) or have the neutrals looped at the switch. You can then switch to suitable outdoor cable (i.e. SWA/XLPE/HiTuf) and run to the light fittings. If you must run the lighting off an RCDed socket circuit (knowing the risks), then definitely use DP switches, as some types of faults are neutralearth. The DP switches will isolate the exterior lights, meaning you can turn the house power back on, even without clearing the fault (which might require sunny weather). Your existing setup probably uses a switched FCU. If so, I'd replace this with an unswitched unit and then feed into a dual gang DP switch. There's no requirement for DP, but it is (very marginally) safer, and, more importantly, provides an easy method to loop the neutrals without requiring crimping or additional terminals floating around. Christian. |
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