Hello All

Can someone let me know how much I would expect to pay for just over 1
metre squared of 4mm glass for some sash windows and the labour to
reglaze?

Also anyone have any idea how much 7mm audio screen glass would be in
the same size as above?

Cheers

Richard

Labour would cost much more than the glass and not necessarily related
to the area - there are many other variables.
What is audio screen glass? Phone a glass supplier for a price.

Im wanting to know the cost now, I know I can ring a supplier up.

Not sure about the audio screen buts is 7mm thick and supposed to aid
in sound proofing.

I'm trying to determine if the cost I have been charged for some
windows is fair or not...........

Cheers

Richard

wrote:
Im wanting to know the cost now, I know I can ring a supplier up.

Not sure about the audio screen buts is 7mm thick and supposed to aid
in sound proofing.

I'm trying to determine if the cost I have been charged for some
windows is fair or not...........

Cheers

It's all about labour.
Ask the same supplier for prices on 10 full sheets, and the per-square-meter
price will be dramatically lower.
Plus, of course there is wastage when cut, as only a given number of windows
can be cut out of a sheet - and they'll rarely have no waste.

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Hello All

Can someone let me know how much I would expect to pay for just over 1
metre squared of 4mm glass for some sash windows and the labour to
reglaze?

Also anyone have any idea how much 7mm audio screen glass would be in
the same size as above?

Cheers

Richard


Locally (Colchester) 4mm float glass is around £16/sq m.

Slurp

"Ian Stirling" wrote in message
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wrote:
Im wanting to know the cost now, I know I can ring a supplier up.

Not sure about the audio screen buts is 7mm thick and supposed to aid
in sound proofing.

I'm trying to determine if the cost I have been charged for some
windows is fair or not...........

Cheers

It's all about labour.
Ask the same supplier for prices on 10 full sheets, and the
per-square-meter
price will be dramatically lower.
Plus, of course there is wastage when cut, as only a given number of
windows
can be cut out of a sheet - and they'll rarely have no waste.

Glass is charged per sq. m. as supplied to the customer.
Its up to the glass cutter as to how much waste he produces.

You need to add the 'energy tax' to the bill as well, which if I remember is
around 50p/m for 4mm float.

Slurp

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Hello All

Can someone let me know how much I would expect to pay for just over 1
metre squared of 4mm glass for some sash windows and the labour to
reglaze?

Within the last two years I replaced three panes in the metal edged sliding
units of one of our basement windows with a total area of two by eight feet
= sixteen sq. feet or approx, 1.5 sq. metres.
The glass company cut the (AFIK it was regular 4mm etc.) glass to the sizes
needed measuring from the broken units then threw that old glass away. I
picked up the glass panes and reassembled them into the metal edged sliders
using the existing materaial. All told took me a couple of hours including
picking up the glass and bringing it home.
Total cost, including the cutting to size, IIRC was $36 (36 dollars Canadian
including our sales tax) or roughly 16 quid. Glass is said to be somewaht
expensive here; some 1500+ miles from the main population centres of North
America! Transportation cost is a factor in everything we do, particularly
housing/construction, especially since trucking involves an eight hour ferry
connection in good weather with mainland Canada or every five day container
ship from Montreal. Glass is also heavy.

All the now 35 year old windows in our house, comprise two sets of sliders
each with single glass. In other words a typical window comprises two
aluminium edged outer sliders and two inner sliders, in aluminium tracks,
all set into a wooden (cedar or redwood) window box/frame built into the
wood frame wall of the house. Half of full window size insect screens were
included. These can also slide so as to be left or right; the only
undesirable feature of which is that they mount on the outside edge of the
outer tacks, meaning that they have to be removed (very easy job done from
inside though) and stored each winter lest they get full of snow/ice. By
contrast some other manufacturers windows 'store' the screens between the
two sets of sliders.

Although this sounds cumbersome and not as tidy compared to, say, the
'sealed twindow' double glass unit 'picture window' as we have in our
biggest four by eight foot main room window, these windows have worked out
very well in this climate which is similar to but colder than the UK. The
windows were manufactured locally from standard materials. Even in winter
one set of sliders can be removed and or interchanged with the other set
and/or cleaned flat on a table in a few minutes from inside the house;
although as a one storey bungalow all 46 glass sliders (22 panes in basement
and 24 panes main floor) windows are also accessible from outside.

The maximum any of our windows can be opened is to about half it's area. Or
the two sets of sliders can be removed. this makes it very convenient for
putting stuff through a window; planks, firewood chunks and or sheets of
plywood etc. in/out the basement and furniture etc. a bedroom .

"r.rain" wrote in message
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Im wanting to know the cost now, I know I can ring a supplier up.

And you know you should have done so prior to getting the job done too,
now too.

Not sure about the audio screen buts is 7mm thick and supposed to aid
in sound proofing.

This sounds very much like you have misunderstood the sales patter.
Would this be a sandwich of two panes with a IMM plastic safety bonding
layer?

I'm trying to determine if the cost I have been charged for some
windows is fair or not...........

Would these be sliding sashes in a box window? If so do they still run
properly?

If it was sound insulation you wanted, double glazed units would have
been ideal, too heavy for unmodified sliders, I think.

Why not tell us what you were charged, what your needs were and what
service you had expected for the money.

A location might be useful too.


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On 26 Aug 2005 12:32:19 -0700, wrote:

Im wanting to know the cost now, I know I can ring a supplier up.

Not sure about the audio screen buts is 7mm thick and supposed to aid
in sound proofing.

I'm renovating my sash windows, which have had 7mm thick glass put in
for soundproofing (presumably). Can't tell you how much they cost, but
I can tell you that they weight a lot, which will affect the windows
and sash weights balancing.


Mark

In article lgate.org,
says...

This sounds very much like you have misunderstood the sales patter.
Would this be a sandwich of two panes with a IMM plastic safety bonding
layer?

I think that the OP has discussed noise reduction with the sales person
at some time.

A sealed unit composed of different glass thicknesses on either side of
the air gap is a common method of noise reduction.

See:-

http://www.pilkington.com/Asia+and+A...English/Buildi
ng+Products/Householder/SmartGlass+Solutions/Reduced+Noise/Reduced+Noise+
Facts+and+Figures.htm

Sorry about the long link - Tiny URL does not work for this page.

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Ziggur

"S'ils te mordent, mords-les"

Michael Mcneil wrote:
"r.rain" wrote in message
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Im wanting to know the cost now, I know I can ring a supplier up.

And you know you should have done so prior to getting the job done too,
now too.

The job hasn't been done yet


Not sure about the audio screen buts is 7mm thick and supposed to aid
in sound proofing.

This sounds very much like you have misunderstood the sales patter.
Would this be a sandwich of two panes with a IMM plastic safety bonding
layer?

No sales patter, he is a joiner that I have been having my sash windows
made by for a year or so now. He makes the ones that are past help and
I restore the others. I have just been wondering to myself lately if
the price he has been charging is OTT or not. He specialises in making
windows and supplies a major sash window company.


I'm trying to determine if the cost I have been charged for some
windows is fair or not...........

Would these be sliding sashes in a box window? If so do they still run
properly?

Yes they will do when I've fitted them, they will run like a dream like
all my other restored ones The audio screen ones haven't actually
been made yet. For the others that I've had done I use a simple formula
to calculate the make weights required for these 4mm glass was used.


If it was sound insulation you wanted, double glazed units would have
been ideal, too heavy for unmodified sliders, I think.

I want identical copies for the new windows and the double glazed
options I have seen are not identical.


Why not tell us what you were charged, what your needs were and what
service you had expected for the money.

One bottom sash plus a top sash copy of original, a single glazing bar
on each. pile carrier installed on the mid rail, each sash is about 100
cm x 80. Primed, no staff or parting bead, plus 7mm glass, he called it
audio screen and I've heard this before. He is also making some
adjustments to the rebate, not sure exactly in what way but its so the
window can take 7mm glass.

Cost for 1 window (2 sashes) =A3600 + VAT

Does this sound reaonable? I have been paying in the past without
questioning it but now the budget is running low for the rest of the
renovations I'm needing to save some cash.


A location might be useful too.

the joiner is miles from me, Nr Farnborough.

Cheers

Richard

In article , Ziggur
writes

A sealed unit composed of different glass thicknesses on either side of
the air gap is a common method of noise reduction.

See:-

http://www.pilkington.com/Asia+and+A...English/Buildi
ng+Products/Householder/SmartGlass+Solutions/Reduced+Noise/Reduced+Noise
+
Facts+and+Figures.htm

That's amazing, the 19 to 46% jump from simple DG to lam & 4mm is
quite something aaand with only an 8mm gap. Hopefully the laminated is
on the inside which would be a security enhancement but that may mean
no low-E.
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fred

Hi
Have you considered going to the major supplier that your joiner makes
windows for and comparing what they charge and what he is charging you?
Otherwise google for 7mm glas. BTW what are the complete specs per
window. Is it just the sashes you are having remade?

In article , says...
Hopefully the laminated is on the inside which would be a security
enhancement but that may mean no low-E.



Pilkington K (low E) can be toughened or laminated.

--
Ziggur

"S'ils te mordent, mords-les"

In article , Ziggur
writes
In article , says...
Hopefully the laminated is on the inside which would be a security
enhancement but that may mean no low-E.

Pilkington K (low E) can be toughened or laminated.

Thanks
--
fred

Ziggur wrote:


See:-

http://www.pilkington.com/Asia+and+A...English/Buildi
ng+Products/Householder/SmartGlass+Solutions/Reduced+Noise/Reduced+Noise+
Facts+and+Figures.htm

Sorry about the long link - Tiny URL does not work for this page.


eh?

http://tinyurl.com/cuy3c


--

In article , Ziggur
writes
In article , says...
Hopefully the laminated is on the inside which would be a security
enhancement but that may mean no low-E.

Pilkington K (low E) can be toughened or laminated.

'ere, wait a minute, toughened after it's coated?, didn't realise the low-E
coating would be that tough.

--
fred

"r.rain" wrote in message
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Cost for 1 window (2 sashes) £600 + VAT

Does this sound reaonable?

No. It is a bloody good wage for a site joiner self employed working 6
days.

Why don't you take your next one apart and see how much needs replacing.

What I would do is just shove a couple of stock casements in the box and
put a couple of nail-holes for the one I wanted to open as rquired to be
supported by pegs as and when.

If he is using plain red pine stock timber and standard mouldings not
copying exactly your mouldings (which he has the cutters for, in stock
now, anyway) and any other specials, he's no better than the friend of
one of the recent posters here who got a boiler replaced for an handsome
exchange of shekels considering it was a "foreigner".




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In article , says...
In article , Ziggur
writes
In article , says...
Hopefully the laminated is on the inside which would be a security
enhancement but that may mean no low-E.

Pilkington K (low E) can be toughened or laminated.

'ere, wait a minute, toughened after it's coated?, didn't realise the low-E
coating would be that tough.



Yep!

Check out the "K" benefits on the Pilkington site.

TinyUrl still doesn't work for me http://tinyurl.com/7bdah so here's the
long one.

http://www.pilkington.com/applicatio...nglish/bybenef
it/thermal+insulation/products/kglass+for+householders/benefits.htm

--
Ziggur

"S'ils te mordent, mords-les"

In article , Ziggur
writes
In article , says...
In article , Ziggur
writes
In article , says...
Hopefully the laminated is on the inside which would be a security
enhancement but that may mean no low-E.

Pilkington K (low E) can be toughened or laminated.

'ere, wait a minute, toughened after it's coated?, didn't realise the low-E
coating would be that tough.

Yep!

Check out the "K" benefits on the Pilkington site.

TinyUrl still doesn't work for me http://tinyurl.com/7bdah so here's the
long one.

http://www.pilkington.com/applicatio...nglish/bybenef
it/thermal+insulation/products/kglass+for+householders/benefits.htm

Thanks for all the links, I was a bit out of date. I'm guessing laminated low-
E will be the cheaper option but will check the prices on my next project.
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fred

wrote:

Hello All

Can someone let me know how much I would expect to pay for just over 1
metre squared of 4mm glass for some sash windows and the labour to
reglaze?

Also anyone have any idea how much 7mm audio screen glass would be in
the same size as above?

Cheers

Richard

No idea, but one gram of GLS goes for about a fiver I'm told....