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Sash Windows
Hi All,
Do any of the North London based people who populate this group know of a company called The Sash Window & Door Company Ltd based in Barnet? I'm thinking of using them to do some installation and renovation to my windows and wondered if anyone has had some experience of them (I'm making some local inquiries as well). Thanks for any help. |
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Endulini wrote:
Do any of the North London based people who populate this group know of a company called The Sash Window & Door Company Ltd based in Barnet? I'm thinking of using them to do some installation and renovation to my windows and wondered if anyone has had some experience of them (I'm making some local inquiries as well). Sorry, don't know anything about that. But if I could hang a query onto yours? Can sash windows ever be made completely air-tight. I live in an old building with very non-air-tight large sash windows, and have fitted secondary glazing. But I have often wondered if I could replace or renovate the sash windows in such a way that the heat loss through them is negligible? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland |
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"Rob Morley" wrote in message t... http://www.periodproperty.co.uk/article041.htm Very nice site, thanks. I wish we had sash windows, they're far superior to casements in every way, I think. Mary |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"Rob Morley" wrote in message http://www.periodproperty.co.uk/article041.htm Very nice site, thanks. Agreed, thanks. Though I was puzzled by one statement: "4. Broken cords: in former times people re-corded their own windows - the cords and sash weights were available at any ironmongers (and still are at some)." In former times? What do people do now? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland |
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Timothy Murphy wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote: "Rob Morley" wrote in message http://www.periodproperty.co.uk/article041.htm Very nice site, thanks. Agreed, thanks. Though I was puzzled by one statement: "4. Broken cords: in former times people re-corded their own windows - the cords and sash weights were available at any ironmongers (and still are at some)." In former times? What do people do now? The cord is easy enough to get, and you rarely need new weights. What is odd is that most houses seem to have the wrong weights for their sashes- too heavy or too light, so one can only assume the sashes have been replaced ar some time. It's easy to minimise draughts on the lower sash by adjusting the staff bead but the upper is a bugger because you can't move the parting bead, and the other side of that you have the edge of the box. Any packing out you do invariably stops the window moving freely. |
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"Timothy Murphy" wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: "Rob Morley" wrote in message http://www.periodproperty.co.uk/article041.htm Very nice site, thanks. Agreed, thanks. Though I was puzzled by one statement: "4. Broken cords: in former times people re-corded their own windows - the cords and sash weights were available at any ironmongers (and still are at some)." In former times? What do people do now? There are companies which do it for you. My father re-sashed our windows when I was a child and spouse did it when we were first married in a different house- although he'd no experience of them. It seemed very normal to me. Mary |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:01:19 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: I wish we had sash windows, they're far superior to casements in every way, I think. Handy for feeding furniture through ;-) T i m |
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"T i m" wrote in message ... On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:01:19 +0100, "Mary Fisher" wrote: I wish we had sash windows, they're far superior to casements in every way, I think. Handy for feeding furniture through ;-) Easier for cleaning outside. Window sills fully usable - inside and out. T i m |
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Timothy Murphy wrote:
Can sash windows ever be made completely air-tight. I live in an old building with very non-air-tight large sash windows, and have fitted secondary glazing. But I have often wondered if I could replace or renovate the sash windows in such a way that the heat loss through them is negligible? fairly straightforward job. Remove the sliding sashes (remove beading and lift out), route a groove around 3 sides, and slot suitable brush type draught excluder into the slot. Refit windows. You'll want to repaint after doing this. This stops any rattles too. NT |
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Stuart Noble wrote:
wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: Can sash windows ever be made completely air-tight. I live in an old building with very non-air-tight large sash windows, and have fitted secondary glazing. But I have often wondered if I could replace or renovate the sash windows in such a way that the heat loss through them is negligible? fairly straightforward job. Remove the sliding sashes (remove beading and lift out), route a groove around 3 sides, and slot suitable brush type draught excluder into the slot. Refit windows. You'll want to repaint after doing this. This stops any rattles too. All very well except the groove that takes the rope is roughly as deep as the parting bead so on most sashes you couldn't groove anything deeper than 2 or 3 mm into the face. A thin metal plate with the brush mounted on one edge, screwed to the edge of the sash and covering the rope groove, might work. I prefer to use a bit of folded cardboard if it gets windy, and call it ventilation, breathing or whatever. the groove goes in the side, not the face. Its the standard way to do them. NT |
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In message , Timothy Murphy
writes Endulini wrote: Do any of the North London based people who populate this group know of a company called The Sash Window & Door Company Ltd based in Barnet? I'm thinking of using them to do some installation and renovation to my windows and wondered if anyone has had some experience of them (I'm making some local inquiries as well). Sorry, don't know anything about that. But if I could hang a query onto yours? Can sash windows ever be made completely air-tight. I live in an old building with very non-air-tight large sash windows, and have fitted secondary glazing. But I have often wondered if I could replace or renovate the sash windows in such a way that the heat loss through them is negligible? The previous owners of this house solved the draughtiness problem by just painting most of them up..... Even with no draughts there will still be plenty of heatloss through the glass though -- Chris French |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:20:51 +0100, chris French
wrote: In message , Timothy Murphy writes Endulini wrote: Do any of the North London based people who populate this group know of a company called The Sash Window & Door Company Ltd based in Barnet? I'm thinking of using them to do some installation and renovation to my windows and wondered if anyone has had some experience of them (I'm making some local inquiries as well). I don't know of the company but if its of any use to you regarding the price.My quote was for the complete overhaul on 4 windows. The overhaul was to consist of stripping the the windows and renewing parting and staff beads. New bottom sashes to all four (one of which has a separation bar between the panes). A new cill to one of the four being overhauled and a completely new single paned box sash window measuring about 800mm x1.2m. This includes measuring the weights , installation of new window. price was betwwen £550 and £700 depending on the time it took.trying to narrow him on the price he said 550 if it took a week but 700 max.Price for labour only . Materials expected to be around 150. |
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BTW if your looking for sash windoe draught proofing and anf sash
window related sundries try http://www.mightonproducts.com/ |
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I presume the price is per window (one week each) otherwise he is miles
out: either doesn't know what he's doing or is desperate for work. cheers Jacob |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:39:10 +0000 (UTC), "Endulini"
wrote: Hi All, Do any of the North London based people who populate this group know of a company called The Sash Window & Door Company Ltd based in Barnet? I'm thinking of using them to do some installation and renovation to my windows and wondered if anyone has had some experience of them (I'm making some local inquiries as well). Thanks for any help. Take a look at this company:- http://www.sashproltd.co.uk/window-c...g-supply.shtml Iam considering using them myself. I have already replaced 4 sash windows in my Victorian house at a cost of £500 each for the materials but then I came across this lot. Wished I'd heard about them before. Maris |
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In article , Maris
writes Take a look at this company:- http://www.sashproltd.co.uk/window-c...g-supply.shtml Iam considering using them myself. I have already replaced 4 sash windows in my Victorian house at a cost of £500 each for the materials but then I came across this lot. Wished I'd heard about them before. Maris They sounded really good until I got to the 'Carbon Emissions' section and then I plonked them, can't be doing with that over hyped approach. Have you looked at Reddiseals? They have gone the brushpile route, not sure which I prefer. http://www.reddiseals.com/acatalog/sash_windows.html -- fred BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs |
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On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:40:58 +0100, fred wrote:
In article , Maris writes Take a look at this company:- http://www.sashproltd.co.uk/window-c...g-supply.shtml Iam considering using them myself. I have already replaced 4 sash windows in my Victorian house at a cost of £500 each for the materials but then I came across this lot. Wished I'd heard about them before. Maris They sounded really good until I got to the 'Carbon Emissions' section and then I plonked them, can't be doing with that over hyped approach. Have you looked at Reddiseals? They have gone the brushpile route, not sure which I prefer. http://www.reddiseals.com/acatalog/sash_windows.html Thanks for the lead. I hadn't heard of them.Until now I've been using Mighton for the ironmongery. Not sure you should dismiss Sashpro because of something in their descriptions. I'm impressed by the thickness (or lack of) of their double-glazed units. I was put off double-glazed sashed until now because of the heaviness of the timber sections but Sashpro seem to have founda solution (as well as the seals). Maris |
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