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Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have!
Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Ta! steve |
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r.p.mcmurphy writes Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Well, it's just a narrow room with a pedestal, high cistern, bog roll on a nail, and a little paraffin heater to stop the pipes freezing in the winter, innit -- geoff |
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raden Woofed :
Well, it's just a narrow room with a pedestal, high cistern, bog roll on a nail, and a little paraffin heater to stop the pipes freezing in the winter, innit "pipes freezing" ??? Luxury !! When I were a puppy we didn't have any pipes in our outside toilet (our *only* toilet). No water nothing like that. Had to be emptied into a hole in the garden. Them were the days :-)))) -- Regards, Troy the Black Lab. |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , r.p.mcmurphy writes Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Well, it's just a narrow room with a pedestal, high cistern, bog roll on a nail, and a little paraffin heater to stop the pipes freezing in the winter, innit A pedestal? There's posh! And newspaper squares on the nail. And a hurricane lamp hanging on the lead piping. We're thinking of having an outside lav too but it would be a compost one so wouldn't have a cistern. Seriously, I'd be very interested to know how you get on. Mary -- geoff |
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writes In message , r.p.mcmurphy writes Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Well, it's just a narrow room with a pedestal, high cistern, bog roll on a nail, and a little paraffin heater to stop the pipes freezing in the winter, innit What!, you had a bog roll?, why thats luxury!, we used to make do with torn up chip papers!. And a cistern!, used to have to empty ours!!!!.. -- Tony Sayer |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message . net... "raden" wrote in message ... In message , r.p.mcmurphy writes Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Well, it's just a narrow room with a pedestal, high cistern, bog roll on a nail, and a little paraffin heater to stop the pipes freezing in the winter, innit A pedestal? There's posh! And newspaper squares on the nail. And a hurricane lamp hanging on the lead piping. We're thinking of having an outside lav too but it would be a compost one so wouldn't have a cistern. Seriously, I'd be very interested to know how you get on. I've a refurbished outside lav, very nice in the summer. Alas, I didn't keep the old loo 'furniture' as I installed a combi on the wall just above the toilet and the wall mounted cistern had to go. However, it had cement rendered walls, a plain white loo with a black seat, a lead pipe running up to the cast iron cistern, with 'The Original Burlington' cast into it. No sink or anything else really. You have to get a ledged and braced door for it! Alas, the rigours of yesteryear are no more, as the combi heats the loo quite nicely and I installed a sink with hot and cold running water. I have a shelf in there with olde worlde gardening books that you can flick through whilst seated :-) All rather decadent really. Andy. |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message . net... "raden" wrote in message ... In message , r.p.mcmurphy writes Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Well, it's just a narrow room with a pedestal, high cistern, bog roll on a nail, and a little paraffin heater to stop the pipes freezing in the winter, innit A pedestal? There's posh! And newspaper squares on the nail. And a hurricane lamp hanging on the lead piping. We're thinking of having an outside lav too but it would be a compost one so wouldn't have a cistern. Seriously, I'd be very interested to know how you get on. I'd also be interested to hear what your BCO thought before condemning it :-) |
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writes In article , raden writes In message , r.p.mcmurphy writes Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Well, it's just a narrow room with a pedestal, high cistern, bog roll on a nail, and a little paraffin heater to stop the pipes freezing in the winter, innit What!, you had a bog roll?, why thats luxury!, we used to make do with torn up chip papers!. And a cistern!, used to have to empty ours!!!!.. Yeah, we were posh -- geoff |
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Mary wrote:
We're thinking of having an outside lav too but it would be a compost one so wouldn't have a cistern. Seriously, I'd be very interested to know how you get on. Mary pe purely guesswork - but I'd assume in the same way that one get's on an internal WC. :-) Hugh |
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tony sayer wrote:
What!, you had a bog roll?, why thats luxury!, we used to make do with torn up chip papers!. Torn up chip papers! We 'ad to flatten out our chip papers and take them back to the chip shop to be re-used, used to get a farthing back for every gross of chip papers (provided they didn't have sauce stains on). Youth of today don't know meaning of economy, thrift and frugality. Owain |
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On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:49:33 +0000 (UTC),it is alleged that "Hugh"
spake thusly in uk.d-i-y: Mary wrote: We're thinking of having an outside lav too but it would be a compost one so wouldn't have a cistern. Seriously, I'd be very interested to know how you get on. Mary pe purely guesswork - but I'd assume in the same way that one get's on an internal WC. :-) Hugh Okay, what cleaners remove nasally ejected coffee from keyboards and monitors? g -- There are three things which I consider excellent advice. First, don't smoke to excess. Second, don't drink to excess. Third, don't marry to excess. - Mark Twain |
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Chip writes: On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:49:33 +0000 (UTC),it is alleged that "Hugh" spake thusly in uk.d-i-y: Mary wrote: We're thinking of having an outside lav too but it would be a compost one so wouldn't have a cistern. Seriously, I'd be very interested to know how you get on. pe purely guesswork - but I'd assume in the same way that one get's on an internal WC. Okay, what cleaners remove nasally ejected coffee from keyboards and monitors? g Reminds me of tail end of some incident I heard on Radio 4's Home Thruths this morning. Some parishoner got caught short just before the Sunday service started, so she nipped round to the loo. The service started as she went in, and just as she was lowering herself onto the toilet, she heard the vicar starting off with "let us be seated". This caused her to giggle, which she couldn't suppress from turning to into uncontrollable laughter. This was apparently clearly audiable thoughout the whole church... -- Andrew Gabriel |
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On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:28:00 +0100, "r.p.mcmurphy" said:
Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! http://www.david.zen.co.uk/albahouse/outside-loo.html -- Alan J. Wylie http://www.wylie.me.uk/ "Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but rather when there is nothing left to take away." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery |
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r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Ta! steve Cold, dank, draughty, stinking of ****, with a splinter ridden board complete with hole propped over a galvaniused bucket of someone elses poo, and completed by the torn up copy of the 'sun' on a nail, usually with just one sheet left... Later on they got upgraded to an over head cistern and ceramic carrpper, but that merely moved the smell down the garden to the cess pit, and left the dunny smelling of stale urine only. |
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raden wrote:
In message , r.p.mcmurphy writes Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Well, it's just a narrow room with a pedestal, high cistern, bog roll on a nail, and a little paraffin heater to stop the pipes freezing in the winter, innit We never had a paraffin heater. My god, We ddodn';t even have any water...kids today... |
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Hugh wrote:
Mary wrote: We're thinking of having an outside lav too but it would be a compost one so wouldn't have a cistern. Seriously, I'd be very interested to know how you get on. Mary pe purely guesswork - but I'd assume in the same way that one get's on an internal WC. No. The splinters will get you. You MUST lower your arse vertically.. :-) Hugh |
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r.p.mcmurphy wrote in message
... Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Ta! steve Once I lived in a house in Lancs with an outside toilet in a brick outhouse, which was ironic as the house was built with a conventional bathroom and toilet. There was no U-bend or flushing mechanism, the hole just went straight down into a just-visible underground stream/sewer. -- Stephen Chalmers |
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r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! used to? there are lots still in use, and probably millions still there but not in regular use. Typically a small brick room, occasionally asbestos sheet. Usually bare brick, but may be painted, or in some cases even plastered. Roof is typically 2 or 3 large slabs of stone, but could also be slate tile or asbestos sheet. Ledged braced door compulsory. Never seen one with heating rare, lightbulb optional, very small window with plain glass sometimes fitted fairly high up. Often seen ones with no light or window. Concrete floor usually. England: high cistern wc. France: open pipe. NT |
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Don't put a lock on the door. Traditionally, it is kept shut by
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"Alan J. Wylie" wrote in message ... On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:28:00 +0100, "r.p.mcmurphy" said: Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! http://www.david.zen.co.uk/albahouse/outside-loo.html -- Alan J. Wylie Ahh lovely! hehe! Got any pics from the outside? Ta! steve |
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r.p.mcmurphy wrote: Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! used to? there are lots still in use, and probably millions still there but not in regular use. Typically a small brick room, occasionally asbestos sheet. Usually bare brick, but may be painted, or in some cases even plastered. Roof is typically 2 or 3 large slabs of stone, but could also be slate tile or asbestos sheet. Ledged braced door compulsory. Never seen one with heating rare, lightbulb optional, very small window with plain glass sometimes fitted fairly high up. Often seen ones with no light or window. Concrete floor usually. England: high cistern wc. France: open pipe. NT Oh yeah! i remember seeing them with small windows! used to be where the spare bog roll was stored wasn't it. Oh i will defiantly be fitting a knocked up ledged and braced door...with a thumb opening door latch! wonder if i should pop a diamond shaped hole in the door like they had in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?! steve |
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r.p.mcmurphy writes
Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Well, it's just a narrow room with a pedestal, high cistern, bog roll on a nail, and a little paraffin heater to stop the pipes freezing in the winter, innit A pedestal? There's posh! And newspaper squares on the nail. And a hurricane lamp hanging on the lead piping. We're thinking of having an outside lav too but it would be a compost one so wouldn't have a cistern. Seriously, I'd be very interested to know how you get on. Mary Ooh ta! I will let the group have the pics when its done...its gonna be built out of reclaimed bricks with Staffordshire blues for the sloping back roof. it will be part of a small out building im building that will include a coal room and a wood store room. Three doors in a row, the nearest one to the house being the lav! steve |
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"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message ... Ooh ta! I will let the group have the pics when its done...its gonna be built out of reclaimed bricks with Staffordshire blues for the sloping back roof. it will be part of a small out building im building that will include a coal room and a wood store room. Three doors in a row, the nearest one to the house being the lav! It does sound good, I wish we had room for such a structure. Our outside lav when I was a child had a full-width boxed in porcelain, er, part* made from softwood which was scrubbed by my mother and always clean and warm to sit on even in winter. What's more, it provided a resting place at each side for whatever one was reading, the key, or anything. When we were first married we had an outside lav which had a modern (well, 1950s) wc with a plastic seat. Believe me that cold be c-c--c-old to the cheeks. If you can, I'd recommend the bench, a rounded profile to the hold will ensure comfort. A full length hinge at the back will allow it to be lifted for cleaning. I know that ours did have such a hinge but can't remember ever seeing it lifted. I was never involved with the cleaning and never dared lift it myself. Mary * the old brain trouble manifesting itself! The word will come the minute my finger hits 'send' |
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"Owain" wrote in message ... tony sayer wrote: What!, you had a bog roll?, why thats luxury!, we used to make do with torn up chip papers!. Torn up chip papers! We 'ad to flatten out our chip papers and take them back to the chip shop to be re-used, used to get a farthing back for every gross of chip papers (provided they didn't have sauce stains on). Youth of today don't know meaning of economy, thrift and frugality. Sauce??? Mary Owain |
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"Alan J. Wylie" wrote in message ... On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:28:00 +0100, "r.p.mcmurphy" said: Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! http://www.david.zen.co.uk/albahouse/outside-loo.html Yes, but that's ugly and unwelcoming! Mary |
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wrote in message oups.com... r.p.mcmurphy wrote: Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! used to? there are lots still in use, and probably millions still there but not in regular use. Typically a small brick room, occasionally asbestos sheet. Usually bare brick, but may be painted, or in some cases even plastered. Ours was whitewashed. It was always flaking, mother used to re-do it every year.She needed to,we used to pick off the flaking lime! Roof is typically 2 or 3 large slabs of stone, but could also be slate tile or asbestos sheet. Ledged braced door compulsory. Never seen one with heating rare, lightbulb optional, very small window with plain glass sometimes fitted fairly high up. Often seen ones with no light or window. We had no light or window. But the door didn't fit100% so there was enough filtered light. If we had to go during the dark we had a bike lamp - but that wasn't allowed during the war. Mary |
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"r.p.mcmurphy" wrote in message ... Oh yeah! i remember seeing them with small windows! used to be where the spare bog roll was stored wasn't it. Oh i will defiantly be fitting a knocked up ledged and braced door...with a thumb opening door latch! wonder if i should pop a diamond shaped hole in the door like they had in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?! No. That's pure Hollywood. Remember that windows allow people to see in. Do you have such a hole or window in your indoor lav? We never had spare paper, when the squares ran out we children were given more papers to tear. News of the World and News Chronicle in our house. I'm not being funny, we were poor. Mary steve |
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"johnty" wrote in message ups.com... Don't put a lock on the door. Traditionally, it is kept shut by bracing one foot against it. But you have a lock which only works from outside so that you can prevent unauthorised peoplefrom using it. Mind you, it wouldn't matter in one's own garden, it did when they were down the street. Mary |
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:39:15 +0100, "r.p.mcmurphy" said:
Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! http://www.david.zen.co.uk/albahouse/outside-loo.html Ahh lovely! hehe! Got any pics from the outside? 'Fraid not. The door is off a narrow alleyway: http://www.david.zen.co.uk/albahouse/alleyway.html - the view of the door is totally obscured by the soil pipe. -- Alan J. Wylie http://www.wylie.me.uk/ "Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but rather when there is nothing left to take away." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery |
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raden wrote:
In message , r.p.mcmurphy writes Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Well, it's just a narrow room with a pedestal, high cistern, bog roll on a nail, and a little paraffin heater to stop the pipes freezing in the winter, innit Cor! you must of been rich? we only had newspaper and an imprint of the daily news on our arses. :-) |
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In article ,
r.p.mcmurphy wrote: Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Still got mine and it's fairly original. Many Victorian houses round here were built with them in addition to an inside one. It's still got the original Thomas T and two piece bowl. But I've tiled it all over and added one of those wash basins partially set into the wall. The dimensions are about 1 x 1.5 metres. IIRC, some method of hand washing had to be added when I applied for a house improvment/repair grant many years ago. -- *Can fat people go skinny-dipping? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Owain wrote: Torn up chip papers! We 'ad to flatten out our chip papers and take them back to the chip shop to be re-used, used to get a farthing back for every gross of chip papers (provided they didn't have sauce stains on) Sauce stains? When I were a lad we could only dream of sauce. -- *What am I? Flypaper for freaks!? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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johnty wrote: Don't put a lock on the door. Traditionally, it is kept shut by bracing one foot against it. Mine isn't big enough to have the door open inwards. So I'd guess you'd just whistle. -- *I'm pretty sure that sex is better than logic, but I can't prove it. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Torn up chip papers! We 'ad to flatten out our chip papers and take them back to the chip shop to be re-used, used to get a farthing back for every gross of chip papers (provided they didn't have sauce stains on) Sauce stains? When I were a lad we could only dream of sauce. We had sauce because we couldn't afford the chips. Lick off the sauce, smell the grease, that were a rare Sunday treat when t' master let us out of t' pit. Now don't start about not having a pit - we worked hard to pay rent on that pit. Owain |
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r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! No pics as such (neverhad an outside toilet) but I remember reading this book mumble mumble years ago not only did he describe various building methods he gave you the ethos behind each decision see if you can get a copy (ebay,old bookshop etc), should get the ideas flowing. http://www.chicsale.net/page01.htm -- yours S Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione |
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In article , "soup"
says... r.p.mcmurphy wrote: Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! No pics as such (neverhad an outside toilet) but I remember reading this book mumble mumble years ago not only did he describe various building methods he gave you the ethos behind each decision see if you can get a copy (ebay,old bookshop etc), should get the ideas flowing. http://www.chicsale.net/page01.htm The site contains the following information: The Specialist and its sequel, I'll Tell You Why, are available from Chic's son Dwight who runs The Specialist Publishing Company 109 La Mesa Dr. Burlingame CA 94010 $6.50 a copy in North America, don't know if he'd ship over the pond, email him at |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , r.p.mcmurphy writes Wehey! We going retro and having a outside lav, like me Nan used to have! Has anyone got any pictures of outside lavs hanging about in their lofts? if so I'd really like to take a peek to give me some idea of how they used to look! Well, it's just a narrow room with a pedestal, high cistern, bog roll on a nail, and a little paraffin heater to stop the pipes freezing in the winter, innit I recall outside loos as being a wooden seat over a hole in the ground, at the bottom of the garden, with a bucket of earth from which you some sprinkled in after you were done. If you had toilet paper, rather than torn up newspaper, it would be a box of Izal sheets. Colin Bignell |
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If you had toilet
paper, rather than torn up newspaper, it would be a box of Izal sheets. Colin Bignell . Is that the stuff that was shiny? Hated that stuff at school. Wee box of sheets, or the roll when it was non medicated. -- yours S Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione |
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