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Router cutter profile grinding service?
Can anybody tell me of one?
I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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"Mike Halmarack" wrote in message
... Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. You're much more likely to find custom ground spindle moulder cutters I would think... but then you need the spindle moulder too. Still, no job's worth doing unless it needs a new tool. |
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:49:18 GMT, "PC Paul" wrote:
"Mike Halmarack" wrote in message .. . Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. You're much more likely to find custom ground spindle moulder cutters I would think... but then you need the spindle moulder too. So true and I see this as a definite up-side. Too far up for me though. Still, no job's worth doing unless it needs a new tool. Moulding plane then. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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"Mike Halmarack" wrote in message
... On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:49:18 GMT, "PC Paul" wrote: "Mike Halmarack" wrote in message . .. Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. You're much more likely to find custom ground spindle moulder cutters I would think... but then you need the spindle moulder too. So true and I see this as a definite up-side. Too far up for me though. Still, no job's worth doing unless it needs a new tool. Moulding plane then. http://www.carbideservices.co.uk/home.htm will do custom router cutters. No idea of price. rec.woodworking might be able to help you with more ideas (although most people on there are yanks where wood is cheap and workshop space is easy...) |
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Mike Halmarack wrote: Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. You'd usually use a spindle moulder for this as the cutters are relatively simple to produce. But they're large and expensive macines, so it's probably best farmed out. -- *Learn from your parents' mistakes - use birth control. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:38:19 GMT, "PC Paul" wrote:
"Mike Halmarack" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:49:18 GMT, "PC Paul" wrote: "Mike Halmarack" wrote in message ... Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. You're much more likely to find custom ground spindle moulder cutters I would think... but then you need the spindle moulder too. So true and I see this as a definite up-side. Too far up for me though. Still, no job's worth doing unless it needs a new tool. Moulding plane then. http://www.carbideservices.co.uk/home.htm will do custom router cutters. No idea of price. Thanks for the URL. :-) rec.woodworking might be able to help you with more ideas (although most people on there are yanks where wood is cheap and workshop space is easy...) Worth a quick invasion then. Operation Information Liberation. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:51:40 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Mike Halmarack wrote: Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. You'd usually use a spindle moulder for this as the cutters are relatively simple to produce. But they're large and expensive macines, so it's probably best farmed out. You're right of course. But I'm a bit of a "Mr idée fixe-it" when it comes to D-I-Y. The fact that it's only 2 Metres of skirting plays a part too. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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Mike Halmarack wrote:
You're right of course. But I'm a bit of a "Mr idée fixe-it" when it comes to D-I-Y. The fact that it's only 2 Metres of skirting plays a part too. If it is only two meters, could you not get close to the profile required using a number of passes with a selection of "off the shelf" cutters, building up the profile from components if you see what I mean? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Mike Halmarack wrote:
Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. can you not a) form the shape from a set of existing cutters, making several passes b) take a cutter and grind it yourself to the shape you want, using angle grinder and frequent cold dips? Should manage 2m no problem. NT |
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:08:00 +0100, John Rumm
wrote: Mike Halmarack wrote: You're right of course. But I'm a bit of a "Mr idée fixe-it" when it comes to D-I-Y. The fact that it's only 2 Metres of skirting plays a part too. If it is only two meters, could you not get close to the profile required using a number of passes with a selection of "off the shelf" cutters, building up the profile from components if you see what I mean? I do see what you mean. I understand that this is how many mouldings are produced. I like to consider available options and acquiring a cutter to do it in one is a current favourite. I have to admit that my d-i-y methods are way more self indulgent than they are efficient. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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PC Paul wrote:
"Mike Halmarack" wrote... Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. You're much more likely to find custom ground spindle moulder cutters I would think... but then you need the spindle moulder too. Probably cheaper, quicker, and easier to get Jewsons to make it for you. |
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:27:46 +0100, Chris Bacon
wrote: PC Paul wrote: "Mike Halmarack" wrote... Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. You're much more likely to find custom ground spindle moulder cutters I would think... but then you need the spindle moulder too. Probably cheaper, quicker, and easier to get Jewsons to make it for you. Yep, if I'd 've done even half my jobs the quick easy way, my bones would prolly have been getting crunched by Tasmanian Devils before now. A mixed blessing if ever there was one. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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b) take a cutter and grind it yourself to the shape you want, using angle grinder and frequent cold dips? Should manage 2m no problem. Thinking along those lines I am sure I have seen a recent router cutter handbook (may have been the trend one) where they had a DIY cutter. It was basically a core of the bit with a clamping mechanism, and then a set of flat blades that you machine to profile before mounting in the arbour/cutter -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"Mike Halmarack" wrote in message ... Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Your request tickled some synapses into activity; Trend says the following ;- Custom Tooling We can design and manufacture router cutters for specific applications using the latest CAD/CAM techniques. Contact our Technical Support team by email or telephone 01923 224681 ... see http://www.trendmachinery.co.uk/contact/ I haven't used this service, so this isn't an endorsement. -- Brian |
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Mike Halmarack wrote:
On 5 Jul 2005 04:18:35 -0700, wrote: Mike Halmarack wrote: Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. can you not a) form the shape from a set of existing cutters, making several passes b) take a cutter and grind it yourself to the shape you want, using angle grinder and frequent cold dips? Should manage 2m no problem. NT Great idea. I think that at the back of my mind I have an idea that if I beat around this particular bush for a while, I'll come up with a convincing justification to purchase a machine that will allow the cutter to rotate truly into the necessary grinding positions. You'd be crazy to try and machine this yourself. Skirting is invaraiably 5 or 6 x 1 with a fancy bit on the top, ovolo or ogee. No one will notice if they're separate sections. |
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:39:23 +0100, John Rumm
wrote: wrote: b) take a cutter and grind it yourself to the shape you want, using angle grinder and frequent cold dips? Should manage 2m no problem. Thinking along those lines I am sure I have seen a recent router cutter handbook (may have been the trend one) where they had a DIY cutter. It was basically a core of the bit with a clamping mechanism, and then a set of flat blades that you machine to profile before mounting in the arbour/cutter That sounds like the kind of kit for the job. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:02:41 GMT, "Brian Sharrock"
wrote: "Mike Halmarack" wrote in message .. . Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Your request tickled some synapses into activity; Trend says the following ;- Custom Tooling We can design and manufacture router cutters for specific applications using the latest CAD/CAM techniques. Contact our Technical Support team by email or telephone 01923 224681 ... see http://www.trendmachinery.co.uk/contact/ I haven't used this service, so this isn't an endorsement. Thanks. I'll look into it with enthusiastic interest. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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Stuart Noble wrote: You'd be crazy to try and machine this yourself. Skirting is invaraiably 5 or 6 x 1 with a fancy bit on the top, ovolo or ogee. No one will notice if they're separate sections. You've not seem mine? Victorian? It's a very involved moulding and not available anywhere. But it is indeed a separate moulding on top of a plain piece of wood. The skirting is about 18" high and made from three bits. -- *Remember, no-one is listening until you fart.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Mike Halmarack wrote: Thinking along those lines I am sure I have seen a recent router cutter handbook (may have been the trend one) where they had a DIY cutter. It was basically a core of the bit with a clamping mechanism, and then a set of flat blades that you machine to profile before mounting in the arbour/cutter That sounds like the kind of kit for the job. Just a thought, but the moulding on mine is about 2" high, and I don't think any router would be powerful enough to do it in one pass. -- *Gargling is a good way to see if your throat leaks. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Stuart Noble wrote:
Mike Halmarack wrote: On 5 Jul 2005 04:18:35 -0700, wrote: Can anybody tell me of one? I've got a short run of custom designed skirting to produce. can you not a) form the shape from a set of existing cutters, making several passes b) take a cutter and grind it yourself to the shape you want, using angle grinder and frequent cold dips? Should manage 2m no problem. Great idea. I think that at the back of my mind I have an idea that if I beat around this particular bush for a while, I'll come up with a convincing justification to purchase a machine that will allow the cutter to rotate truly into the necessary grinding positions. You'd be crazy to try and machine this yourself. Many of us here are crazy - by your standards. People do it successfully, though homemade cutters dont have a long life. Skirting is invaraiably 5 or 6 x 1 with a fancy bit on the top, ovolo or ogee. No one will notice if they're separate sections. Indeed, its common practice to assemble them from flat board plus moulding. But you still need to make that top section if you cant get the moulding anywhere, nor create it by sticking a few bits of moulding together. Doing it in plaster is also an option, and probably easier. You cut the profile piece in wood rather than steel, and use it to wipe the required shape into place in situ. NT |
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:02:31 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Stuart Noble wrote: You'd be crazy to try and machine this yourself. Skirting is invaraiably 5 or 6 x 1 with a fancy bit on the top, ovolo or ogee. No one will notice if they're separate sections. You've not seem mine? Victorian? It's a very involved moulding and not available anywhere. But it is indeed a separate moulding on top of a plain piece of wood. The skirting is about 18" high and made from three bits. I really miss those Victorian mouldings. Not the indoor winter temperatures that too often hung around them though. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:04:11 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Mike Halmarack wrote: Thinking along those lines I am sure I have seen a recent router cutter handbook (may have been the trend one) where they had a DIY cutter. It was basically a core of the bit with a clamping mechanism, and then a set of flat blades that you machine to profile before mounting in the arbour/cutter That sounds like the kind of kit for the job. Just a thought, but the moulding on mine is about 2" high, and I don't think any router would be powerful enough to do it in one pass. These are 1" and quite simple. It's just that the builder made them himself, so neither B&Q nor Wicks offerings come close. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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Mike Halmarack wrote: You've not seem mine? Victorian? It's a very involved moulding and not available anywhere. But it is indeed a separate moulding on top of a plain piece of wood. The skirting is about 18" high and made from three bits. I really miss those Victorian mouldings. Not the indoor winter temperatures that too often hung around them though. I tend not to lie on the floor much these days. ;-) However, it provides a large air gap for the bricks before the plaster starts. So useful with no DPC. -- *Arkansas State Motto: Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Laugh. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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