Mike,

Large plastic helmet (it's surprising how big this has to be to go
over the
head). Where the heck can I get one of these?

Surely only the nose and mouth have to be covered? That should be
rather more achievable.

Bert
http://www.bertcoules.co.uk

In article , mike
wrote:

Needed...
Large plastic helmet (it's surprising how big this has to be to go over the
head). Where the heck can I get one of these?

Pollen filter.I suppose I can now get one of these from a car parts place? Any
recommendations as to where/type etc Are there different grades?
Short length of plastic tube and and motor - both of these I have.

How about a filtered air fed mask for paint refinishing? Everything you need
for the job there.

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In article , Bert
Coules writes
Mike,

Large plastic helmet (it's surprising how big this has to be to go
over the
head). Where the heck can I get one of these?

Surely only the nose and mouth have to be covered? That should be
rather more achievable.

I'm not sure, hayfever really gets your eyes too, but I don't know if
that is a reaction from inhalation of the pollen or from direct eye
contact with the pollen.

I find dunking my face in bowl of very cold water helps.
--
Tim Mitchell

mike wrote:
A few years ago I saw a news item about a chap who was selling "hayfever
helmets". Basically a plastic bubble with filtered air supply. Not exactly the
thing one wants to walk about with! But it's not such a bad idea because it
gives the body time to recover. Ok as soon as you take it off the immune
reaction starts again but even an hour break can be benificial. I'd like to try
an make a similar helmet but getting the (few) parts needed is the problem.

Needed...
Large plastic helmet (it's surprising how big this has to be to go over the
head). Where the heck can I get one of these?

Pollen filter.I suppose I can now get one of these from a car parts place? Any
recommendations as to where/type etc Are there different grades?
Short length of plastic tube and and motor - both of these I have.

The idea is simply to build a slight positive pressure inside the helmet using
the filtered air. Plenty of gaps around the base for safety ventilation of
course and rigid bubble so it cannot collapse on the wears face.

DISCLAIMER:
I am NOT suggesting anyone else makes/tries out one of these things because of
the obvious risks to themselves. Especially DO NOT try using plastic bags or
anything of a similar nature.


This (http://www.trendmachinery.co.uk/airshield/) is pricey, but might
do the job 'as is', dependent on whether the filter is suitable for
pollen etc.

Also, it will probably be a bit more aesthetically pleasing than a
homemade job?

HTH,

Alex.

Im not sure, hayfever really gets your eyes too, but I don't know if
that is a reaction from inhalation of the pollen or from direct eye
contact with the pollen.

You could always use a S10 respirator.
(http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...895491 0&rd=1)
will certainly keep out the pollen!

Could be worth looking at vacuum cleaner filters.
Some of the more expensive makes claim to have pollen level fitering I
think.

Phil

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:06:09 GMT, mike wrote:

Large plastic helmet (it's surprising how big this has to be to go over the
head). Where the heck can I get one of these?

Mine is an aircraft fire-fighter's helmet (eBay, naturally). It's
excellent for casting molten metal, great for amusing the kids, and
appears to be the same helmet worn by the aliens in UFO (Ed Bishop,
RIP)

You can even get a surplus rocket fuel handling suit
http://www.wolfhazmat.de/astrosuit/hazmat_wolf21.htm



However this is ridiculous for pollen - why cover your head ?

I don't even think you need to cover your eyes ?

So what you need is a lightweight, comfortable half-mask respirator. Get
yourself down to Arco - there's a big range. 3M do good ones, pay the
extra for silicone if you're going to wear it for a long time. Masks
with good exhale valves (i.e. not breathing through the filter both
ways) are comfortable. As for filters, then any half-decent particle
filter will do - a good mask has these interchangeable.

If you want motorised blowers, then Racal or Trend have sold these for
years - used by woodturners to pharmaceutical workers. They're expensive
though.
The Trend "Dan Dare" Airshield
http://www.peterchild.co.uk/tools/dusty/air.htm
or the Racal Airstream (expensive, heavy, but better balanced)
http://www.regency-uk.com/html/airstream.html


If you want half-head coverage, get a 3M mask

If you want robust half-head, get an Avon S10 mask
(any UK mil-surplus shop - cheap)
http://www.wolfhazmat.de/S10Mask/S10_01.htm

If you want full head coverage, get a Soviet "chipmunk" mask.
http://www.studiogum.com/Boris%20Page/Boris.055.htm
(better UK mil-surplus shops - still cheap)

Andy Dingley wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:06:09 GMT, mike wrote:

Large plastic helmet (it's surprising how big this has to be to go over the
head). Where the heck can I get one of these?

Mine is an aircraft fire-fighter's helmet (eBay, naturally). It's
excellent for casting molten metal, great for amusing the kids, and
appears to be the same helmet worn by the aliens in UFO (Ed Bishop,
RIP)

You can even get a surplus rocket fuel handling suit
http://www.wolfhazmat.de/astrosuit/hazmat_wolf21.htm



However this is ridiculous for pollen - why cover your head ?

I don't even think you need to cover your eyes ?

So what you need is a lightweight, comfortable half-mask respirator. Get
yourself down to Arco - there's a big range. 3M do good ones, pay the
extra for silicone if you're going to wear it for a long time. Masks
with good exhale valves (i.e. not breathing through the filter both
ways) are comfortable. As for filters, then any half-decent particle
filter will do - a good mask has these interchangeable.

If you want motorised blowers, then Racal or Trend have sold these for
years - used by woodturners to pharmaceutical workers. They're expensive
though.
The Trend "Dan Dare" Airshield
http://www.peterchild.co.uk/tools/dusty/air.htm
or the Racal Airstream (expensive, heavy, but better balanced)
http://www.regency-uk.com/html/airstream.html


If you want half-head coverage, get a 3M mask

If you want robust half-head, get an Avon S10 mask
(any UK mil-surplus shop - cheap)
http://www.wolfhazmat.de/S10Mask/S10_01.htm

If you want full head coverage, get a Soviet "chipmunk" mask.
http://www.studiogum.com/Boris%20Page/Boris.055.htm
(better UK mil-surplus shops - still cheap)


Thats what I call extreme solutions! I had hay fever real bad one year,
what worked was to drape wet towels around a room and re-wet them when
needed. Dont let them dry out or they can let go of the dust. It
filtered the whole room, worked well.

NT

"mike" wrote in message
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I saw this in another post, long preamble snipped:


"Nasaleze.
http://www.healthy-house.co.uk/produ...&product_id=29

"For those that don't know what it is, according to the blurb, it is an
"inert celulose powder derived from vegetables". It is supplied in in an
eye-drop style bottle.

"On contact with moisture, the powder turns into a gel that covers the area
that it is applied to. It effectively creates a barrier between the pollen
and your nasal tract. What is more, because it is Gel like and "sticky", it
also acts as an aid to the natural function of your nose by trapping other
particulates that a healthy would nose normally trap but causes sneezing and
irritation to hayfever sufferers.

"I use nazaleze in combination with my standard eye-drops and hayfever
tablets. Since using it, I have not had an asthma attack. Not one (I do
however still keep an inhaler ready for if I do have an attack but I have
not used it since I started using Nasaleze). I can't remember the last time
I sneezed due to hayfever and I haven't had a nosebleed in two years.

"For me as long as I have a good pair of wraparound sunglasses on when I go
out now, I can actually enjoy the summer which I would never have thought
possible. For me, it has delivered the liberation that I have always wanted
in the summer. I am no longer trapped indoors, under siege from the outside
world. It's GREAT!

"I believe that you can get Nasaleze at most good health shops. If you have
hayfever then for under a tenner, it's worth a try. I can honestly recommend
it."



Now, I don't have hay fever and have no experience of the above but it seems
eminently sensible and I I WEREa sufferer I'd try it.

Mary

"mike" wrote in message
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"Nasaleze.
http://www.healthy-house.co.uk/produ...&product_id=29
Thank all - and Mary, no I haven't seen that stuff - but will certainly
give it
a try. Thanks.

If you do, let us - or me - know how it works please.

Mary

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:43:42 GMT, mike wrote:

I don't even think you need to cover your eyes ?

Eye irritantion is one of the main problems.

But is pollen absorbed by that route ? Or is it merely a symptom of
nasal pollen ?

mike wrote:

Needed...
Large plastic helmet (it's surprising how big this has to be to go over the
head). Where the heck can I get one of these?

How about something like the airshield:

http://www.trendmachinery.co.uk/airshield/

That is supposed to keep out sub-microm MDF dust and the like, so it
ought to work for pollen. The cooling down draft on the face might be
good in summer as well.


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Cheers,

John.

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mike wrote:

I don't entirely agree with this. You are I'm sure correct about the way the
response might cycle - but a secondary effect of HF is the irresitable rubbing
of eyes, blowing nose etc. If ever this gets so bad (during a season) that the
skin becomes inflamed it's almost impossible to recover the situation until the
end of the season. Same thing for nasal congestion. I do take your point though
and think there may be a optimum time for best effect. If only say 1/2 hour
relief, it can make a huge difference to these "secondaries".

In much the same way I have noticed that for people with bad HF, a half
hour or so spent in the car with the AC on will also give respite for
not only the time in the car, but also for a couple of hours after.

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John.

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Tim,

I'm not sure, hayfever really gets your eyes too...

Quite right, of course. I used to suffer very badly, so I don't know
how I managed to forget that. Curiously, the symptoms decreased
markedly when I moved from London into the country. Good luck to Mike
in his quest for a way of alleviating the problem.

Bert
http://www.bertcoules.co.uk

"John Rumm" wrote in message
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mike wrote:

Needed...
Large plastic helmet (it's surprising how big this has to be to go over
the
head). Where the heck can I get one of these?


Go down to the chemist and get a pack of Benylin tablets. They work, I
promise.

Andy.

"andrewpreece" wrote in message
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"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
mike wrote:

Needed...
Large plastic helmet (it's surprising how big this has to be to go over
the
head). Where the heck can I get one of these?


Go down to the chemist and get a pack of Benylin tablets. They work, I
promise.

No one preparation works for everyone.

Mary

Andy.