Roper whitney punch...............cut many sized holes in sheet steel easily
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MESE%3AIT&rd=1

In article , MrBlueSkye
writes
Roper whitney punch...............cut many sized holes in sheet steel easily
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...231&rd=1&sspag
ename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

No ads mate, it's in the faq.

I hear Pipex are quite strict on TOS violation too . . . .
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fred

In message , fred writes
In article , MrBlueSkye
writes
Roper whitney punch...............cut many sized holes in sheet steel easily
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...231&rd=1&sspag
ename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

No ads mate, it's in the faq.

ITYF that commercial ads are not allowed, and I'm the first to jump on
anyone who does so.

I think this comes under the heading of a private person selling a
couple items, it does say condition "used"

IMNVHO, this is acceptable


I hear Pipex are quite strict on TOS violation too . . . .



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geoff

raden wrote:

IMNVHO, this is acceptable

I dunno - this poster only ever seems to post for sale ads - nothing
else. Just because he's selling a pile of second-hand tat doesn't mean
it's not a commercial operation.


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Grunff

In message , Grunff
writes
raden wrote:

IMNVHO, this is acceptable

I dunno - this poster only ever seems to post for sale ads - nothing
else. Just because he's selling a pile of second-hand tat doesn't mean
it's not a commercial operation.

IC

I've only noticed a couple

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geoff

In article ,
raden writes:
In message , fred writes
In article , MrBlueSkye
writes
Roper whitney punch...............cut many sized holes in sheet steel easily

No ads mate, it's in the faq.

ITYF that commercial ads are not allowed, and I'm the first to jump on
anyone who does so.

I think this comes under the heading of a private person selling a
couple items, it does say condition "used"

IMNVHO, this is acceptable

Ebay is commercial. 'Free to collector' or something for the
cost of a pint seem fine whilst their volume is very low,
but this newsgroup has no business being an Ebay advertising
forum, which would completely kill it. Likewise any other
auction forum.

Actually, I would like to see this in the FAQ.

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Andrew Gabriel

In message , Andrew Gabriel
writes
In article ,
raden writes:
In message , fred writes
In article , MrBlueSkye
writes
Roper whitney punch...............cut many sized holes in sheet steel easily

No ads mate, it's in the faq.

ITYF that commercial ads are not allowed, and I'm the first to jump on
anyone who does so.

I think this comes under the heading of a private person selling a
couple items, it does say condition "used"

IMNVHO, this is acceptable

Ebay is commercial. 'Free to collector' or something for the
cost of a pint seem fine whilst their volume is very low,
but this newsgroup has no business being an Ebay advertising
forum, which would completely kill it. Likewise any other
auction forum.

I stand corrected, as I wasn't aware that he makes a regular practice of
it


Actually, I would like to see this in the FAQ.


--
geoff

In article , raden
writes
No ads mate, it's in the faq.

ITYF that commercial ads are not allowed, and I'm the first to jump on
anyone who does so.

I think this comes under the heading of a private person selling a
couple items, it does say condition "used"

IMNVHO, this is acceptable

Ebay is commercial. 'Free to collector' or something for the
cost of a pint seem fine whilst their volume is very low,
but this newsgroup has no business being an Ebay advertising
forum, which would completely kill it. Likewise any other
auction forum.

I stand corrected, as I wasn't aware that he makes a regular practice of
it

I did check his history first mate, half a dozen ads in the last month to
groups with no ads charters, mind you the adspeak subject line is a bit of
a give away . . .
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fred

On Tue, 10 May 2005 20:51:45 GMT, raden wrote:

IMNVHO, this is acceptable

Oh great - now what happens if _everyone_ does it ?

If you want to search eBay, they have a perfectly good search mechanism.

No ads mate, it's in the faq.

As a matter of interest, since this group is un moderated, what action could
be taken against someone who contravened the principles in the FAQ?

Dave

In message , David Lang
writes

No ads mate, it's in the faq.

As a matter of interest, since this group is un moderated, what action could
be taken against someone who contravened the principles in the FAQ?

It has a charter, as do all ngs

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geoff

Hi Geoff

It has a charter, as do all ngs

I own/moderate several Yahoo Groups and if someone breaks the rules I can
remove them or moderate every post they make.

It may have a charter, but what about teeth?

Dave

In article ,
"David Lang" writes:
Hi Geoff

It has a charter, as do all ngs

I own/moderate several Yahoo Groups and if someone breaks the rules I can
remove them or moderate every post they make.

It may have a charter, but what about teeth?

Haven't tried recently, but Ebay themselves certainly
used to be very good about this, and would kill any
such auctions if they received a complaint. (I don't
know if there was any additional penalty they applied
to the seller.)

--
Andrew Gabriel

In article , David
Lang writes
Hi Geoff

It has a charter, as do all ngs

I own/moderate several Yahoo Groups and if someone breaks the rules I can
remove them or moderate every post they make.

It may have a charter, but what about teeth?

If it's someone who is being a real arse, I'll make an abuse report to their
NSP and ISP. I've seen a couple of ids disappear after such a complaint so
it seems to work some of the time, depends who the service providers are
though but a succinct, polite complaint with message ids is usually met
with a helpful response. If it's commercial abuse of an affiliate link I'd fire
one off to the affiliate organisation too. The provider will usually want a link
to the charter of the group so they can confirm a post is abusive. In your
case maybe publish an AUP that you can refer to in any complaint you
make.

HTH
--
fred

In message , David Lang
writes
Hi Geoff

It has a charter, as do all ngs

I own/moderate several Yahoo Groups and if someone breaks the rules I can
remove them or moderate every post they make.

It may have a charter, but what about teeth?

Dave

You just gum abuse@ ...

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geoff

raden wrote:
David Lang writes
As a matter of interest, since this group is un moderated, what action
could
be taken against someone who contravened the principles in the FAQ?

A FAQ is just a FAQ, it's of no other interest.


It has a charter, as do all ngs

Not all groups have "charters".

raden wrote:
It (uk.d-i-y) has a charter, as do all ngs

Actually, I've just looked. It does not have a charter.

In article , "Chris Bacon"
says...
raden wrote:
It (uk.d-i-y) has a charter, as do all ngs

Actually, I've just looked. It does not have a charter.

That will be because you're expected to make your own :-)

On Wed, 11 May 2005 11:57:16 +0100, Chris Bacon
wrote:

Actually, I've just looked. It does not have a charter.

It does, but the parish council won't admit it. They'd much rather that
whole non-conformant "uk.d-i-y" name went away and died.

In article ,
fred wrote:
No ads mate, it's in the faq.

I hear Pipex are quite strict on TOS violation too . . . .

Personally I don't object to such a small post given it's selling
something that could be of interest to many on here.

But it should have a 'FS' prefix so those who wish to filter such things
can do so.

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