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How could the volume of a person be found?
I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! -- Chris |
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Chris wrote:
How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Displacement of water in a bath? -- Grunff |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:09:39 UTC, Grunff wrote:
Chris wrote: How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Displacement of water in a bath? But make sure you seal up all orifices first - gaffer tape will do... I suggest IMM as a subject... -- Bob Eager begin a new life...dump Windows! |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:53:42 +0100, Chris ] wrote:
How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Archimedes is your friend here. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Bob Eager wrote:
But make sure you seal up all orifices first - gaffer tape will do... I suggest IMM as a subject... If IMM is doing it, he could just wear his gimp suit. No gaffer tape required. -- Grunff |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... Bob Eager wrote: But make sure you seal up all orifices first - gaffer tape will do... I suggest IMM as a subject... If IMM is doing it, he could just wear his gimp suit. No gaffer tape required. What's a gimp suit? Is this trendy around your way? |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:53:42 +0100, Chris ] wrote: How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Archimedes is your friend here. Correct. Use a bath. |
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In article , Grunff wrote:
Chris wrote: How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Displacement of water in a bath? Eureka! Gordon (sorry, couldn't resist) |
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Gordon Henderson" wrote in message ...
Eureka! (sorry, couldn't resist) Hey, I was just about to say that! Another method, is just to assume an average density of 1000 kg/m^3 so if the body weighs, say, 80kg the volume must be fairly close to 80 litres. Anyway, why does the OP want to know? -- Andy |
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"Andy Wade" wrote in message ... Gordon Henderson" wrote in message ... Eureka! (sorry, couldn't resist) Hey, I was just about to say that! Another method, is just to assume an average density of 1000 kg/m^3 so if the body weighs, say, 80kg the volume must be fairly close to 80 litres. Anyway, why does the OP want to know? Obesity is big problem. The government is outlawing it by restricting the fatty foods fatties eat. Soon fatties will be totally out of order for being what they are - which isl be a menace to society. |
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"Chris" ] wrote in message ]... How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! -- Chris By using a noise level meter. |
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"Chris" ] wrote in message
]... How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Liquidiser and a measuring jug? -- Richard Sampson email me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
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"IMM" wrote in message
... "Andy Wade" wrote in message ... Gordon Henderson" wrote in message ... Eureka! (sorry, couldn't resist) Hey, I was just about to say that! Another method, is just to assume an average density of 1000 kg/m^3 so if the body weighs, say, 80kg the volume must be fairly close to 80 litres. Anyway, why does the OP want to know? Obesity is big problem. The government is outlawing it by restricting the fatty foods fatties eat. Soon fatties will be totally out of order for being what they are - which isl be a menace to society. Define obesity. -- Richard Sampson email me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
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IMM wrote:
If IMM is doing it, he could just wear his gimp suit. No gaffer tape required. What's a gimp suit? Is this trendy around your way? Come on, no need to pretend you don't know - we're all friends here... -- Grunff |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:53:42 +0100, Chris wrote:
How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Weigh person. Go to swimming pool. Float in water and make estimation of amount of body that it above water line. Note the volume will vary considerably whether or not a breath has been taken or not. Add the weight in kg to the volume above the water line (in litres). This gives the volume of the whole person in litres. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html |
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RichardS wrote:
"Chris" ] wrote in message ]... How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Liquidiser and a measuring jug? LOL! Si |
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wattie wrote:
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:53:42 +0100, Chris wrote:
How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! A guy in Greece found this out thousands of years ago. Dave -- Some people use windows, others have a life. |
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Define obesity. Anyone fatter than him ? Dave -- Some people use windows, others have a life. |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:50:16 +0100, Dave Stanton
strung together this: Define obesity. Anyone fatter than him ? Not many then.... -- SJW A.C.S. Ltd |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... Chris wrote: How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Displacement of water in a bath? Eureka! -- Grunff |
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"IMM" wrote in message ... Obesity is big problem. The government is outlawing it by restricting the fatty foods fatties eat. If you'd been at Camelot last weekend you wouldn't think that. Mary |
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"wattie" wrote in message ... "Chris" ] wrote in message ]... How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! -- Chris By using a noise level meter. Oh, nice one! |
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"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message . .. "Chris" ] wrote in message ]... How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Liquidiser and a measuring jug? I like that too. -- Richard Sampson email me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:50:39 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
strung together this: I like that too. I wouldn't mind your inane ramblings if you had something useful to say once in a while. Until such time as you do start actually providing helpful responses kindly refrain from posting utter nonsense. -- SJW A.C.S. Ltd |
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"Lurch" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:50:39 +0100, "Mary Fisher" strung together this: I like that too. I wouldn't mind your inane ramblings if you had something useful to say once in a while. Until such time as you do start actually providing helpful responses kindly refrain from posting utter nonsense. I don't mind inane ramblings either, which is why I read all yours ... :-) -- SJW A.C.S. Ltd |
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On 21 Jul 2004, Andy Hall wrote
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:53:42 +0100, Chris ] wrote: How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Archimedes is your friend here. Screw Archimedes.... :) -- Cheers, Harvey |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:50:25 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
strung together this: I don't mind inane ramblings either, which is why I read all yours ... :-) But my inane comments are usually interspersed with helpful advice, where's yours? -- SJW A.C.S. Ltd |
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"Lurch" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:50:25 +0100, "Mary Fisher" strung together this: I don't mind inane ramblings either, which is why I read all yours ... :-) But my inane comments are usually interspersed with helpful advice, Mr Pole!!!! ?????????????? |
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"Harvey Van Sickle" wrote in message ... On 21 Jul 2004, Andy Hall wrote On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:53:42 +0100, Chris ] wrote: How could the volume of a person be found? I mean using DIY methods, rather than laboratory facilities! Archimedes is your friend here. Screw Archimedes.... Excellent! :) -- Cheers, Harvey |
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RichardS wrote:
Define obesity. BMI (body mass index) = weight_(in kg) / (height (in cm) squared) BMI 18.5 underweight 18.5 - 24.9 Normal 25 - 29.9 Overweight 30 Obese Figures for women may vary |
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:46:12 +0100, Nick Brooks
wrote: RichardS wrote: Define obesity. BMI (body mass index) = weight_(in kg) / (height (in cm) squared) BMI 18.5 underweight 18.5 - 24.9 Normal 25 - 29.9 Overweight 30 Obese Figures for women may vary That's not quite the right formula. It's weight in kg divided by (height in metres squared). Also, it is only a fairly crude measure because the medical impact depends very much on the distribution of the weight on the person. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Andy Hall wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:46:12 +0100, Nick Brooks wrote: RichardS wrote: Define obesity. BMI (body mass index) = weight_(in kg) / (height (in cm) squared) BMI 18.5 underweight 18.5 - 24.9 Normal 25 - 29.9 Overweight 30 Obese Figures for women may vary That's not quite the right formula. It's weight in kg divided by (height in metres squared). Oops my mistake Also, it is only a fairly crude measure because the medical impact depends very much on the distribution of the weight on the person. Indeed, and it doesn't take into account any other factors that affect health such as exercise, diet, smoking, hereditary conditions etc etc etc but it does give A definition of obese .andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Nick Brooks" wrote in message ... RichardS wrote: Define obesity. BMI (body mass index) = weight_(in kg) / (height (in cm) squared) BMI 18.5 underweight 18.5 - 24.9 Normal 25 - 29.9 Overweight 30 Obese Figures for women may vary that's the answer that I thought would come back. The problem with BMI can be shown by the fact that Mr Schwarzenegger's well publicised vital stats from his competing days put him into the category of "Obese", all of the sprinters in the forthcoming Olympics will probably also be in that category! So, guess which indicator our wonderful government uses to tell us all there's a growing obesity problem.... -- Richard Sampson email me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:57:33 +0100, "RichardS" noaccess@invalid
wrote: The problem with BMI can be shown by the fact that Mr Schwarzenegger's well publicised vital stats from his competing days put him into the category of "Obese", all of the sprinters in the forthcoming Olympics will probably also be in that category! So, guess which indicator our wonderful government uses to tell us all there's a growing obesity problem.... So which indicator do you suggest would be better? Remembering, of course, that the actual body measurements used must be simple, quick and cheap, if GP's and Joe Public is to use them. Regards, VivienB |
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"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message ...
"Nick Brooks" wrote in message ... RichardS wrote: Define obesity. BMI (body mass index) = weight_(in kg) / (height (in cm) squared) BMI 18.5 underweight 18.5 - 24.9 Normal 25 - 29.9 Overweight 30 Obese Figures for women may vary that's the answer that I thought would come back. The problem with BMI can be shown by the fact that Mr Schwarzenegger's well publicised vital stats from his competing days put him into the category of "Obese", all of the sprinters in the forthcoming Olympics will probably also be in that category! So, guess which indicator our wonderful government uses to tell us all there's a growing obesity problem.... The latest issue of Men's Health has just this point in it. Jonny Wilkinson et al all being examples of 'obesity' based upon this simplistic formula. Shano |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:27:29 +0100, "IMM" strung
together this: Mr Pole!!!! ?????????????? And while we're on the subject, you can **** right off as well. There, I like having public rants on newsgroups, seem to be doing quite a bit of it lately though, ah well, worse things happen at sea and all that malarkey. -- SJW A.C.S. Ltd |
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"VivienB" wrote in message
... On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:57:33 +0100, "RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote: The problem with BMI can be shown by the fact that Mr Schwarzenegger's well publicised vital stats from his competing days put him into the category of "Obese", all of the sprinters in the forthcoming Olympics will probably also be in that category! So, guess which indicator our wonderful government uses to tell us all there's a growing obesity problem.... So which indicator do you suggest would be better? Remembering, of course, that the actual body measurements used must be simple, quick and cheap, if GP's and Joe Public is to use them. Well, there's the rub. There isn't an ideal quick, cheap and easy measurement that is actually meaningful. Skin Fold Thickness isn't bad, but that requires some skill to take and a calculation, and IIRC breaks down as a meaningful measurement when a person has a very high body fat percentage. But, the one thing that is sure is that BMI is fundamentally flawed. Fat has a lower density than muscle, therefore a fit, lean person would get a worse reading than an unfit, flabby (for want of a better word) person of similar physical dimensions. And that just can't be right... -- Richard Sampson email me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
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In article , Nick Brooks
writes RichardS wrote: Define obesity. BMI (body mass index) = weight_(in kg) / (height (in cm) squared) BMI 18.5 underweight 18.5 - 24.9 Normal 25 - 29.9 Overweight 30 Obese Figures for women may vary You are not an alcoholic until you drink more than your doctor ... so go and weigh him for an 'obesity' check. -- Andrew |
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You are not an alcoholic until you drink more than your doctor ...
so go and weigh him for an 'obesity' check. That's a very good point - I'm a GP and I see it as a minor role of mine to preach about lifestyle. People want to be fixed, then get on with their life as they see fit. I bet you don't get formula one pit crew tutting to drivers and saying "well if only you drove a little more slowly and occasionally got out for a break your engine would be less strained and last longer" It's much cheaper for politicians to shout at the populace to be more healthy than let them decide, and provide sick-shops to clear up the mess. You only have to measure the girth of politicians to realise why health promotion doesn't work. Even John Reid admitted that for some people smoking is their only pleasure. If one of my elderly patients said that it would be fine, but for a senior politican responsible for firing competent managers for not meeting his stalinist health targets that's unforgiveable hypocrisy. As far as I'm concerned people can be the size they want. I'll advise them of the consequences, but then they can choose. If people wear out their knees aged 40 because they're carrying the equivalent of 2 heavy suitcases of lard everywhere they go then I'll point it out, give them the help but that's as far as I can go. It's about choice and responsiblity.... *rant mode: OFF* |
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