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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 19:27:53 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote:

In article , Andy Hall
writes

I fundamentally don't buy into the notion that the state has to be in
the healthcare business. It does not do it well.

We'll have to agree to disagree, Andy.

We can do that.

Were it not for the NHS I
wouldn't be here now. I have received exemplary service from all facets
of the service I have used - from hospitals to dental treatment. As
with other walks of life, I find a measure of patience and treating the
staff as fellow human beings goes a long way.

I think that one should always treat others as fellow human beings
regardless of the situation. Certainly in terms of the
professionalism of the medical staff at the point of delivery, I have
no issues at all.

My criticism is entirely of the system between the point where it
takes my money and how the delivery is organised and funded.
It is able to convince people that they are getting something for
"nothing" and should be grateful for what they get. I can be
patient to a point, but not over a confidence trick like that.

I don't mind paying for a good product or service as long as I get it,
but this is not as far as I'm concerned.






..andy

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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...
I have received exemplary service from all facets
of the service I have used - from hospitals to dental treatment.

Which proves how unequal the system has become. 50% of us have no access to
NHS dentistry no matter who we vote for. Yet my taxes still go to pay for
the other 50% to have something I cannot get.

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"Huge" wrote in message
...
Mike Tomlinson writes:
In article , Andy Hall
writes

There shouldn't be an NHS list or a queue - that's the whole point.
In my view, their shouldn't be economically enforced socialised
medicine at all.

So you'd prefer we have the equivalent of the American system? No state
provision,

Wrong. Medicare provides for the elderly. Medicaid for the indigent.

quack doctors everywhere,

Wrong. It's harder to become a doctor in the US than here. And much
easier to find out who's who.

overpriced heath insurance,

Wrong. Kaiser Permanente (a Califonia HMO) has been shown to
provide care much superior to the NHS at a lower cost than the
NHS.

outrageously expensive drugs?

Debateably.

I was agreeing with you until this one. Unfortunately after being charged
$35 for a bottle of big standard antibiotics this is one area the US hasn't
got to grips with as the drug companies have a huge clout. Hilary Clinton
has proposed a bill to fix this but in the meantime many Americans flying to
Europe do fly back via Madrid so as to get drugs over the counter at low
cost.

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"Huge" wrote in message
...
Mike Tomlinson writes:
In article , G&M
writes

British Telecom before Mrs T - 6 months to wait for a (noisy) phone.
British Telecom after Mrs T - 2 days to wait for a good phone plus many
alternatives.

Electricity companies before Mrs T - overcharged.
Electricity companies after Mrs T - highly competive pricing.

British made cars before Mrs T - unreliable, expensive.
British made cars after Mrs T - even Vauxhalls work reliably and are
actually proportionally cheaper.

Restuarants before Mrs T - crap and utter crap.
Restaurants after Mrs T - more top quality places than anywhere other
than

Railways before Mrs T - cheap, worked (mostly)
Railways after Mrs T - ****ed

Sadly not.

Railways before Mrs T - ****ed
Railways after Mrs T - ****ed


Mrs T wanted to close the whole lot down as the 19th century anachronism
they are but Kenneth Baker was a closet train spotter and convinced her
otherwise. Shame as the land would have made ideal toll routes - into town
in the morning, out in the evening.

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:08:20 GMT, a particular chimpanzee named raden
randomly hit the keyboard and produced:

Do you actually understand them meaning of "your" ?

it doesn't look like it

There are several words he doesn't know the meaning of, like; "shut",
"the", "****" and "up".
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