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Went to see the independant eye doctor, in the Walmart kiosk. Turns out my
eyes went from about -6 to -4.5, meaning the glasses I've been using are too
strong.

Not sure how that works. My eyes had been getting worse, since age of 12 or
so, when I needed my first eye glasses.

Their basic frames are $29 and up. Single focuss lenses for $60 and bifocals
for more (can't remember the number). I fired up the computer, and have
several pair of glassess coming from Zenni Optical. Zennis start at $6.95
for single focuss (includes the lenses). They have a deal running, shipping
for $4.95, and if you order over $50, shipping is no extra charge.

I'm buying a couple pair for the vehicles, and trying out a set of glasses
with the bifocals I definitely need. Be interesting to see if my new, up to
date prescription helps any. I'm guessing it will.

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Went to see the independant eye doctor, in the Walmart kiosk. Turns out my
eyes went from about -6 to -4.5, meaning the glasses I've been using are too
strong.

Not sure how that works. My eyes had been getting worse, since age of 12 or
so, when I needed my first eye glasses.

Their basic frames are $29 and up. Single focuss lenses for $60 and bifocals
for more (can't remember the number). I fired up the computer, and have
several pair of glassess coming from Zenni Optical. Zennis start at $6.95
for single focuss (includes the lenses). They have a deal running, shipping
for $4.95, and if you order over $50, shipping is no extra charge.

I'm buying a couple pair for the vehicles, and trying out a set of glasses
with the bifocals I definitely need. Be interesting to see if my new, up to
date prescription helps any. I'm guessing it will.

Christopher A. Young
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I tried getting a prescription thru Zenni and they had problems
getting what I wanted. I went back to my eye doctor and he advised me
to stay away from the discount places and find a private optician.
Sometimes it's really tempting to save the money, but I'm taking my
doctor's advice.
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Went to see the independant eye doctor, in the Walmart kiosk. Turns out my
eyes went from about -6 to -4.5, meaning the glasses I've been using are too
strong.

Not sure how that works. My eyes had been getting worse, since age of 12 or
so, when I needed my first eye glasses.

Their basic frames are $29 and up. Single focuss lenses for $60 and bifocals
for more (can't remember the number). I fired up the computer, and have
several pair of glassess coming from Zenni Optical. Zennis start at $6.95
for single focuss (includes the lenses). They have a deal running, shipping
for $4.95, and if you order over $50, shipping is no extra charge.

I'm buying a couple pair for the vehicles, and trying out a set of glasses
with the bifocals I definitely need. Be interesting to see if my new, up to
date prescription helps any. I'm guessing it will.

Christopher A. Young
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I tried getting a prescription thru Zenni and they had problems
getting what I wanted. I went back to my eye doctor and he advised me
to stay away from the discount places and find a private optician.
Sometimes it's really tempting to save the money, but I'm taking my
doctor's advice.


Your the first person that I know of that has had issues with Zenni.

And many many many of those posting here have gotten their optics from
Zenni, including my ex

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Went to see the independant eye doctor, in the Walmart kiosk. Turns out my
eyes went from about -6 to -4.5, meaning the glasses I've been using are too
strong.


Not sure how that works. My eyes had been getting worse, since age of 12 or
so, when I needed my first eye glasses.


Their basic frames are $29 and up. Single focuss lenses for $60 and bifocals
for more (can't remember the number). I fired up the computer, and have
several pair of glassess coming from Zenni Optical. Zennis start at $6.95
for single focuss (includes the lenses). They have a deal running, shipping
for $4.95, and if you order over $50, shipping is no extra charge.


I'm buying a couple pair for the vehicles, and trying out a set of glasses
with the bifocals I definitely need. Be interesting to see if my new, up to
date prescription helps any. I'm guessing it will.


Christopher A. Young
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I tried getting a prescription thru Zenni and they had problems
getting what I wanted. *I went back to my eye doctor and he advised me
to stay away from the discount places and find a private optician.
Sometimes it's really tempting to save the money, but I'm taking my
doctor's advice.


Hmmm, are you heavy on astigmatism?

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Went to see the independant eye doctor, in the Walmart kiosk. Turns out my
eyes went from about -6 to -4.5, meaning the glasses I've been using are too
strong.


Not sure how that works. My eyes had been getting worse, since age of 12 or
so, when I needed my first eye glasses.


Not uncommon for near-sightedness to decrease after age 45 or so. Mine
are certainly better. My 83-year-old mother hardly needs her glasses
anymore, except for the bifocal lenses. The upper half is almost
uncorrected glass.



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Went to see the independant eye doctor, in the Walmart kiosk. Turns out my
eyes went from about -6 to -4.5, meaning the glasses I've been using are too
strong.


Not sure how that works. My eyes had been getting worse, since age of 12 or
so, when I needed my first eye glasses.


Their basic frames are $29 and up. Single focuss lenses for $60 and bifocals
for more (can't remember the number). I fired up the computer, and have
several pair of glassess coming from Zenni Optical. Zennis start at $6.95
for single focuss (includes the lenses). They have a deal running, shipping
for $4.95, and if you order over $50, shipping is no extra charge.


I'm buying a couple pair for the vehicles, and trying out a set of glasses
with the bifocals I definitely need. Be interesting to see if my new, up to
date prescription helps any. I'm guessing it will.


Christopher A. Young
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I tried getting a prescription thru Zenni and they had problems
getting what I wanted. *I went back to my eye doctor and he advised me
to stay away from the discount places and find a private optician.
Sometimes it's really tempting to save the money, but I'm taking my
doctor's advice.


Hmmm, are you heavy on astigmatism?

Dave


Shouldn't be a problem for Zenni. The one thing they DON'T do is prism
correction. My original prescription had 4 degrees in each ey, and
they couldn't do that. I had been experimenting with leaving out the
prosm entirely, and found tht I could actually see better without it,
as I'm pretty used to correcting for the double-vision, and non-prism
lenses are "clearer."


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If you have a complicated formula, Zenni might not be able to do it. Who can
tell?

OTOH, did you really expect your doctor to say "Hey, buy the cheap glasses,
and don't give me any of your money?"

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I tried getting a prescription thru Zenni and they had problems
getting what I wanted. I went back to my eye doctor and he advised me
to stay away from the discount places and find a private optician.
Sometimes it's really tempting to save the money, but I'm taking my
doctor's advice.


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That's worth knowing. I thought I needed prism lenses, but the eye doctor
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Shouldn't be a problem for Zenni. The one thing they DON'T do is prism
correction. My original prescription had 4 degrees in each ey, and
they couldn't do that. I had been experimenting with leaving out the
prosm entirely, and found tht I could actually see better without it,
as I'm pretty used to correcting for the double-vision, and non-prism
lenses are "clearer."




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Went to see the independant eye doctor, in the Walmart kiosk. Turns out my
eyes went from about -6 to -4.5, meaning the glasses I've been using are too
strong.

Not sure how that works. My eyes had been getting worse, since age of 12 or
so, when I needed my first eye glasses.


My eye doctor mentioned he's seen that sort of change as people
develop cataracts.

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Oh, bother. Now I've got one more thing to worry about.

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Went to see the independant eye doctor, in the Walmart kiosk. Turns out my
eyes went from about -6 to -4.5, meaning the glasses I've been using are
too
strong.


My eye doctor mentioned he's seen that sort of change as people
develop cataracts.





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On Feb 1, 10:46*pm, "Denis G." wrote:









On Feb 1, 5:01*pm, "Stormin Mormon"


wrote:
Went to see the independant eye doctor, in the Walmart kiosk. Turns out my
eyes went from about -6 to -4.5, meaning the glasses I've been using are too
strong.


Not sure how that works. My eyes had been getting worse, since age of 12 or
so, when I needed my first eye glasses.


Their basic frames are $29 and up. Single focuss lenses for $60 and bifocals
for more (can't remember the number). I fired up the computer, and have
several pair of glassess coming from Zenni Optical. Zennis start at $6.95
for single focuss (includes the lenses). They have a deal running, shipping
for $4.95, and if you order over $50, shipping is no extra charge.


I'm buying a couple pair for the vehicles, and trying out a set of glasses
with the bifocals I definitely need. Be interesting to see if my new, up to
date prescription helps any. I'm guessing it will.


Christopher A. Young
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I tried getting a prescription thru Zenni and they had problems
getting what I wanted. *I went back to my eye doctor and he advised me
to stay away from the discount places and find a private optician.
Sometimes it's really tempting to save the money, but I'm taking my
doctor's advice.


Hmmm, are you heavy on astigmatism?

Dave


I've gotten a bit more near-sighted with one eye and Zenni expressed
concern that one lens would be much thicker. I tried to talk with
someone there, but I had no luck talking to someone there. My doctor
said that my prescription is a little bit out of the ordinary, but not
excessively so and anyone competent optician could have helped me by
using a different refractive index material for the problem lens. I
think that Zenni probably does most of it's business with the simple
stuff. My doctor doesn't like the discounts because he doesn't trust
their work.
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That's worth knowing. I thought I needed prism lenses, but the eye doctor
didn't find any need.

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Shouldn't be a problem for Zenni. The one thing they DON'T do is prism
correction. My original prescription had 4 degrees in each ey, and
they couldn't do that. I had been experimenting with leaving out the
prosm entirely, and found tht I could actually see better without it,
as I'm pretty used to correcting for the double-vision, and non-prism
lenses are "clearer."


I started with prism lenses, with virtually no other vision correction
when I first started working in electonics, back in 1977. I had been
correcting by looking out of one ey (unconciosly), and when I started
doing a lot of close-up work, it became a problem. Over the years, the
prism part of the prescription never changed, but the vision
correction became progressively more powerful. After a while, I
changed eye doctors, and the new one said that having prism correction
makes everything slightly blurry because your looking a little
sideways through the glass, and that makes for more glass to look
through and also the prism screws up the prescription a little (why
they can't correct for this, I don't fully know).

Long story short, my old glasses (with the prism correction) cost over
a thousand bucks. I gave Zenni a shot (without the prism), and I can
see better than I have in ten years. Go figure. At my last eye exam,
he rechecked the prism, and said that I was correcting for it as well
as the lenses would, and it would be better just to leave it out of
the new prescription.

My next step is to buy a set of trial lenses. I know that my eyes
change during the day, and wouldn't it be cool to have morning glasses
and evening glasses? also I can figure out a proper prescription for
sitting at the computer and another for reading and another for
working on the lathe and another and another....

Trial lens sets are a couple of hundred bucks on ebay, and they'll pay
for themselves in a year (me and my wife) - we go to the eye doctor
twice a year, and the insurance doesn't cover the $60 for refraction,
just the "medical" part of the exam. So, given the starting point of
the current prescriptions, it shouldn't be so hard to do it myself.

As for cataracts, I, thankfully, have not gone down that road (yet).

One other thing you ought to know: no matter how fancy the
prescription, no pair of glasses is going to fix your right-tilted
view of the world ;-)
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On Feb 1, 10:46*pm, "Denis G." wrote:


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wrote:
Went to see the independant eye doctor, in the Walmart kiosk. Turns out my
eyes went from about -6 to -4.5, meaning the glasses I've been using are too
strong.


Not sure how that works. My eyes had been getting worse, since age of 12 or
so, when I needed my first eye glasses.


Their basic frames are $29 and up. Single focuss lenses for $60 and bifocals
for more (can't remember the number). I fired up the computer, and have
several pair of glassess coming from Zenni Optical. Zennis start at $6.95
for single focuss (includes the lenses). They have a deal running, shipping
for $4.95, and if you order over $50, shipping is no extra charge.


I'm buying a couple pair for the vehicles, and trying out a set of glasses
with the bifocals I definitely need. Be interesting to see if my new, up to
date prescription helps any. I'm guessing it will.


Christopher A. Young
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I tried getting a prescription thru Zenni and they had problems
getting what I wanted. *I went back to my eye doctor and he advised me
to stay away from the discount places and find a private optician.
Sometimes it's really tempting to save the money, but I'm taking my
doctor's advice.


Hmmm, are you heavy on astigmatism?


Dave


I've gotten a bit more near-sighted with one eye and Zenni expressed
concern that one lens would be much thicker. I tried to talk with
someone there, but I had no luck talking to someone there. *My doctor
said that my prescription is a little bit out of the ordinary, but not
excessively so and anyone competent optician could have helped me by
using a different refractive index material for the problem lens. *I
think that Zenni probably does most of it's business with the simple
stuff. *My doctor doesn't like the discounts because he doesn't trust
their work.


If zenni lenses are going to be thicker for one eye than the other,
that's the way the're going to be from any lab. You might ask zenni if
they can use higher refraction material in the thicker lens, to even
them out. It's going to be a special for them, but they might do it.
I've never had a problem talking to someone there (California).

Your Doctor doesn't trust them because either:
a) he doesn't make any money from them
b) he isn't familiar with their work
c) he doesn't realize that ALL of the lenses he's seen recently have
come from China. There are (practically) no US optical labs anymore.
Lenscrafters, Sears, Target, and virtually all of the others
(including the small guys' distributors) buy the same stuff in China.

BTW, my prescription is pretty complicated - quite different in each
eye. The only part zenni couldn't do is the prism, and I'm actually
better off without it (see a couple of posts above).


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On Feb 2, 8:29*am, Dave__67 wrote:


On Feb 1, 10:46*pm, "Denis G." wrote:


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wrote:
Went to see the independant eye doctor, in the Walmart kiosk. Turns out my
eyes went from about -6 to -4.5, meaning the glasses I've been using are too
strong.


Not sure how that works. My eyes had been getting worse, since age of 12 or
so, when I needed my first eye glasses.


Their basic frames are $29 and up. Single focuss lenses for $60 and bifocals
for more (can't remember the number). I fired up the computer, and have
several pair of glassess coming from Zenni Optical. Zennis start at $6.95
for single focuss (includes the lenses). They have a deal running, shipping
for $4.95, and if you order over $50, shipping is no extra charge..


I'm buying a couple pair for the vehicles, and trying out a set of glasses
with the bifocals I definitely need. Be interesting to see if my new, up to
date prescription helps any. I'm guessing it will.


Christopher A. Young
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I tried getting a prescription thru Zenni and they had problems
getting what I wanted. *I went back to my eye doctor and he advised me
to stay away from the discount places and find a private optician.
Sometimes it's really tempting to save the money, but I'm taking my
doctor's advice.


Hmmm, are you heavy on astigmatism?


Dave


I've gotten a bit more near-sighted with one eye and Zenni expressed
concern that one lens would be much thicker. I tried to talk with
someone there, but I had no luck talking to someone there. *My doctor
said that my prescription is a little bit out of the ordinary, but not
excessively so and anyone competent optician could have helped me by
using a different refractive index material for the problem lens. *I
think that Zenni probably does most of it's business with the simple
stuff. *My doctor doesn't like the discounts because he doesn't trust
their work.


If zenni lenses are going to be thicker for one eye than the other,
that's the way the're going to be from any lab. You might ask zenni if
they can use higher refraction material in the thicker lens, to even
them out. It's going to be a special for them, but they might do it.
I've never had a problem talking to someone there (California).

Your Doctor doesn't trust them because either:
a) he doesn't make any money from them
b) he isn't familiar with their work
c) he doesn't realize that ALL of the lenses he's seen recently have
come from China. There are (practically) no US optical labs anymore.
Lenscrafters, Sears, Target, and virtually all of the others
(including the small guys' distributors) buy the same stuff in China.

BTW, my prescription is pretty complicated - quite different in each
eye. The only part zenni couldn't do is the prism, and I'm actually
better off without it (see a couple of posts above).


I tried to communicate with Zenni to discuss my prescription, but I
didn't get any response both from voicemail and email. I was
motivated to use them and I did want to save money on glasses.

I suppose that you can impugn anyone who's in business and making
money -- a company supplying prescriptions or an eye doctor making his
living. I just choose to trust my doctor, maybe just because I can
see him face to face. He's told me that he read a recent trade
publication claiming a significant error rate in prescriptions coming
from the discount houses.
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Shouldn't be a problem for Zenni. The one thing they DON'T do is prism
correction. My original prescription had 4 degrees in each ey, and
they couldn't do that. I had been experimenting with leaving out the
prosm entirely, and found tht I could actually see better without it,
as I'm pretty used to correcting for the double-vision, and non-prism
lenses are "clearer."


I started with prism lenses, with virtually no other vision correction
when I first started working in electonics, back in 1977. I had been
correcting by looking out of one ey (unconciosly), and when I started
doing a lot of close-up work, it became a problem. Over the years, the
prism part of the prescription never changed, but the vision
correction became progressively more powerful. After a while, I
changed eye doctors, and the new one said that having prism correction
makes everything slightly blurry because your looking a little
sideways through the glass, and that makes for more glass to look
through and also the prism screws up the prescription a little (why
they can't correct for this, I don't fully know).

Long story short, my old glasses (with the prism correction) cost over
a thousand bucks. I gave Zenni a shot (without the prism), and I can
see better than I have in ten years. Go figure. At my last eye exam,
he rechecked the prism, and said that I was correcting for it as well
as the lenses would, and it would be better just to leave it out of
the new prescription.

My next step is to buy a set of trial lenses. I know that my eyes
change during the day, and wouldn't it be cool to have morning glasses
and evening glasses? also I can figure out a proper prescription for
sitting at the computer and another for reading and another for
working on the lathe and another and another....


i believe you can order bare lenses from zenni. i have a pair of their
sport glasses where the lenses are on a separate frame that pop into the
sport frame, so you may be able to do that pretty easily.


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I have not bought from them in about a year, but I have a new
prescription in hand and was planning to order in the next couple of
weeks, as soon as I have some time. I HOPE your experience with them
is an isolated one and doesn't indicate that their level or quality of
service is on the decline. But I suppose it's possible that with
increasing popularity, they haven't kept up with their staffing
requirements. I will report back here after I've ordered.


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Myself alone, have probably half dozen pair of Zennis, and every one has
been good. I do have mild astigmatism, that requires correction.

The order at present is for about 6 pair of Zennis, and cost about $75.
Included two set of bifocals.

Walmart, their cheapest pair for one was $90. And that was single focus.

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Perhaps. I've got nothing to gain wherever you fill your prescription,
but if you ask the people in this group who've bought from Zenni, I
don't think you'll find a dissatisfied customer. Between my wife and
me, we've bought probably a dozen pairs, and they've all been as good
as, or better than locally purchased glasses that cost many times as
much money.



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I tried to communicate with Zenni to discuss my prescription, but I
didn't get any response both from voicemail and email. I was


I had trouble the first time I ordered. One temple screw on the frame
was stripped so they sent me a new frame, after 2 weeks of email to
them. I finally called and got through. g


motivated to use them and I did want to save money on glasses.


Ditto. The difference for 3 pairs of glasses (reading, computer, and
everyday) is over five hundred dollars!


I suppose that you can impugn anyone who's in business and making
money -- a company supplying prescriptions or an eye doctor making his
living. I just choose to trust my doctor, maybe just because I can
see him face to face. He's told me that he read a recent trade
publication claiming a significant error rate in prescriptions coming
from the discount houses.


I'm 3 for 3 good prescriptions so far. That's 3 pair 3 times.
knock on wood My acid skin is eating the temples on my glasses
again, so I'm going to order some replacements next week.

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