If you look closely, you will see a smart car he

http://imgur.com/gallery/kGUKD

Ignoramus18738 wrote:
If you look closely, you will see a smart car he

http://imgur.com/gallery/kGUKD

Not a smart car they only have 3 wheel nuts, that car has 5.

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:38:16 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus18738
scrawled the following:

If you look closely, you will see a smart car he

http://imgur.com/gallery/kGUKD

It's a car; It's a purse; It's a little wagon; It's a coffin!
Buy your multi-faceted Smart Car NOW!

--
Content thyself to be obscurely good. When vice prevails, and
impious men bear sway, the post of honor is a private station.
-- Joseph Addison, 'Cato'

Looks like Jeep wheels.

David Billington wrote:
Ignoramus18738 wrote:
If you look closely, you will see a smart car he

http://imgur.com/gallery/kGUKD

Not a smart car they only have 3 wheel nuts, that car has 5.

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:42:42 +0100, David Billington
wrote:

Ignoramus18738 wrote:
If you look closely, you will see a smart car he

http://imgur.com/gallery/kGUKD

Not a smart car they only have 3 wheel nuts, that car has 5.

the wheel and body look suspiciously like a toyota echo.
Stealth Pilot

Ignoramus18738 wrote:

If you look closely, you will see a smart car he

Hmm, all I see is a wad of tinfoil....G

Jon

On Aug 7, 8:38*am, Ignoramus18738 ignoramus18...@NOSPAM.
18738.invalid wrote:
If you look closely, you will see a smart car he

* *http://imgur.com/gallery/kGUKD


Also not a smart car-
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/80511886/

click on it and look close, I see VW on the wheel.


Dave

David Billington wrote:
Ignoramus18738 wrote:
If you look closely, you will see a smart car he

http://imgur.com/gallery/kGUKD

Not a smart car they only have 3 wheel nuts, that car has 5.

It's a Honda. Started life as a 4 door!

--
Steve W.

XR650L_Dave wrote:
On Aug 7, 8:38 am, Ignoramus18738 ignoramus18...@NOSPAM.
18738.invalid wrote:
If you look closely, you will see a smart car he

http://imgur.com/gallery/kGUKD


Also not a smart car-
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/80511886/

click on it and look close, I see VW on the wheel.


Dave


That looks like a Toyota logo. Maybe a Rav4? Not a lot of vehicles with
rear mounted spares.

--
Steve W.

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:38:16 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus18738
scrawled the following:

If you look closely, you will see a smart car he

http://imgur.com/gallery/kGUKD

Man, what a way to waste an hour and lose a pint of tears in
laughter...

Some of my faves were the Innocent box, Obama cue cards, wide-angle
lenses, "dead peoples things for sale" sign, Little Ahnold with big
Wilt and Andre, and the Pluto billboard.

--
Content thyself to be obscurely good. When vice prevails, and
impious men bear sway, the post of honor is a private station.
-- Joseph Addison, 'Cato'

David Billington wrote:

Not a smart car they only have 3 wheel nuts, that car has 5.


I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

Wes

I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the three
wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them has
worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie motorcycle a
few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a Smart Car emblem on
there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem. Didn't do it, but hey... I
thought it was funny.
--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill

V8013-R

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the
three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them
has worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game in
Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a bunch of
them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they form herds.
Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will eventually become
immune to antibiotics.

--
Ed Huntress

Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the
three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them
has worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game in
Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a bunch of
them on the road.

--
John R. Carroll

John R. Carroll wrote:
Joe AutoDrill wrote:

I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the
three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them
has worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.


They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game in
Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a bunch of
them on the road.


I'll check that with Dutch friends I have in Holland and see if it's
true. I would imagine that with the things that ****ed up blokes do that
in the past they would have been tipping French snails in the canal , ie
Citroen 2CVs, as they must weigh about the same. Thinking now I have
heard of similar with various light cars in the past, and a bit more
thinking and I've been involved in such antics in the past myself.

BTW Smart for2 is 3 wheel nuts studs/wheel, for4 is 4 wheel nuts studs
/wheel, at least here in the UK.

"John R. Carroll" wrote:

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a bunch of
them on the road.

The one I saw had Ontario plates. That neighbor north and south of here.

Wes

"John R. Carroll" wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the
three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them
has worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game in
Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a
bunch of them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they form
herds. Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will
eventually become immune to antibiotics.

LOL
What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling anything
"a death trap ".

Thrown clear vs. compacted... Some survival chance vs. coffin...

Joe AutoDrill wrote:

I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the three
wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them has
worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

I've passed a few of them here in TX as well. No shock, but pretty clear
if one darted out from a side street in front on my 8500#+ truck it
would get punted like a football and probably end up on someone's roof.

"John R. Carroll" wrote:

What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling anything
"a death trap ".

Decent weather, no snow, I think I'd take my chances with the motorcycle. I could out
brake, out accelerate, out steer, and fit through smaller gaps in the traffic ahead.

In the case of a collision, I'd rather be thrown from the bike rather than compacted in
the 'smart' coffin.

Wes

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the
three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them
has worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game in
Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a
bunch of them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they form
herds. Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will
eventually become immune to antibiotics.

LOL
What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling anything
"a death trap ".


--
John R. Carroll

David Billington wrote:
John R. Carroll wrote:
Joe AutoDrill wrote:

I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the
three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them
has worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.


They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game in
Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a
bunch of them on the road.


I'll check that with Dutch friends I have in Holland and see if it's
true.

NPR did a report yesterday. They are in the process of passing a specific
law to keep people from picking them up and hiding them.
Throwing them over the barriers is going to be included but it was already
against the law to destroy another persons property.
LOL


I would imagine that with the things that ****ed up blokes do
that in the past they would have been tipping French snails in the
canal , ie Citroen 2CVs, as they must weigh about the same.

They say the Smart's are the perfect size to clear the barriers easily.

Thinking
now I have heard of similar with various light cars in the past, and
a bit more thinking and I've been involved in such antics in the past
myself.

Haha!



--
John R. Carroll

On Aug 7, 4:52*pm, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. *It looked like a death trap and the three
wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. *The shock of seeing them has
worn off for me. *Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie motorcycle a
few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a Smart Car emblem on
there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem. *Didn't do it, but hey... *I
thought it was funny.
--

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills:http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills:http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping:http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site:http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS:http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill

V8013-R

Around here (Bergen County, NJ) the Smart Car is carried by the huge
Mercedes dealer. Sort of tells you something about "Smart = Status"
for some folks.

I'll check that with Dutch friends I have in Holland and see if it's
true. I would imagine that with the things that ****ed up blokes do that
in the past they would have been tipping French snails in the canal , ie
Citroen 2CVs, as they must weigh about the same. Thinking now I have
heard of similar with various light cars in the past, and a bit more
thinking and I've been involved in such antics in the past myself.




I never heard them called that! But it sure fits.

I remember seeing lots of 2CVs in German garages, with a BMW or MB out
in front. I wondered if they never threw anything away, or they were
all in the process of restoring them.

Paul

"John R. Carroll" wrote:

Pete C. wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and
the three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing
them has worn off for me. Now, they're just little
go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game in
Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a
bunch of them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they
form herds. Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will
eventually become immune to antibiotics.

LOL
What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling
anything "a death trap ".

Thrown clear vs. compacted... Some survival chance vs. coffin...

Never seen an LA Freeway, apparently.
"Thrown clear" equals "Knocked off and then Run over".

Still preferable to "compacted in a tin can" I think.

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling anything
"a death trap ".

Decent weather, no snow, I think I'd take my chances with the motorcycle.
I could out
brake, out accelerate, out steer, and fit through smaller gaps in the
traffic ahead.

In the case of a collision, I'd rather be thrown from the bike rather than
compacted in
the 'smart' coffin.

Wes

Actually the crash cage in the Smart seems to hold up well. But anything
inside the cage is broken as they is very little crash deformation.

"rangerssuck" wrote in message
...
On Aug 7, 4:52 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the three
wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them has
worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie motorcycle
a
few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a Smart Car emblem on
there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem. Didn't do it, but hey... I
thought it was funny.
--

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills:http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills:http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping:http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site:http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS:http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill

V8013-R

Around here (Bergen County, NJ) the Smart Car is carried by the huge
Mercedes dealer. Sort of tells you something about "Smart = Status"
for some folks.

It is built by Mercedes.

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Pete C. wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

Pete C. wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and
the three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing
them has worn off for me. Now, they're just little
go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game
in Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently
not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a
bunch of them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they
form herds. Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will
eventually become immune to antibiotics.

LOL
What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling
anything "a death trap ".

Thrown clear vs. compacted... Some survival chance vs. coffin...

Never seen an LA Freeway, apparently.
"Thrown clear" equals "Knocked off and then Run over".

Still preferable to "compacted in a tin can" I think.

I'm sure you do but can only wonder why.
The striking thing about Smart owners is that they seem not to die in
their
vehicles. Driving a dinky car is different.
The same cannot be said of Bikers, and I spent four years in CA with one
of
the original Kitana's and then an GSX 1100 R.
That was four years of making the mistake of thinking I was invincible. I
wasn't, just lucky.....

--
John R. Carroll

Your chance of dying while riding a motorcycle is eight times greater than
your chance in a car, on a per-mile basis. I doubt if the Smart Car is eight
times more deadly than the average car.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a bunch of
them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they form herds.
Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will eventually become
immune to antibiotics.

--
Ed Huntress

I've found they're easier to kill than zombies, though.

Which reminds me of a friend who killed a lot of zombies at a bar one
night...but discretion does not allow more on that.

David

Pete C. wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and
the three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing
them has worn off for me. Now, they're just little
go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game in
Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a
bunch of them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they
form herds. Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will
eventually become immune to antibiotics.

LOL
What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling
anything "a death trap ".

Thrown clear vs. compacted... Some survival chance vs. coffin...

Never seen an LA Freeway, apparently.
"Thrown clear" equals "Knocked off and then Run over".



--
John R. Carroll

Wes wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling
anything "a death trap ".

Decent weather, no snow, I think I'd take my chances with the
motorcycle. I could out brake, out accelerate, out steer, and fit
through smaller gaps in the traffic ahead.

In the case of a collision, I'd rather be thrown from the bike rather
than compacted in the 'smart' coffin.

Well Wes, there isn't any evidence that Smart's are getting bested.
I think it's because people that have them pay extra care and that count's
for a lot.

As for getting thrown from a bike, who is going to take care of your drool
bucket?
That is the real choice.



--
John R. Carroll

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Pete C. wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote:


Your chance of dying while riding a motorcycle is eight times greater
than your chance in a car, on a per-mile basis. I doubt if the Smart
Car is eight times more deadly than the average car.

I doubt that there is a citable statistic Ed, but my experience is that
the
deadliness of the conveyance is directly proportional to the attentiveness
and experience of the operator.

I can tell you that is a statistical fact with small private passenger
aircraft, business class turbo-props ( Yeah - from the S/M) and business
class jets both from my personal experience and the stats. Don't know
about
anything land bound except boats and ships. The same is true there.

Paying attention, and not just to what you are doing but anticipating the
other guy, counts.
I'll bet people driving these cracker boxes do that. Good for them!

--
John R. Carroll

I put around 80,000 miles on an MG Midget when I was in college. On two
occasions I was able to steer out of trouble that caught the car *behind*
me. In one case, in very heavy traffic on Labor Day in 1970, the car ahead
of me crashed into the car ahead of him, and the car behind me crashed into
the car that had been ahead of me. g Meantime, I was parked on the
shoulder by the time the crashes stopped.

But, as you say, I was always very alert in that little sardine can.

--
Ed Huntress

On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:50:08 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the
three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them
has worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game in
Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a
bunch of them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they form
herds. Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will
eventually become immune to antibiotics.

LOL
What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling anything
"a death trap ".

Yeah, those motorcycle riders are dangerous! Everytime I see one the
guy is talking on a cell phone, or eating lunch, or reading a paper,
or texting, or putting on make-up, or changing the lumbar support, or
talking to the passenger.

Does stupid come natural to you, or are you taking a night class?

Snarl

On Aug 7, 8:36*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"rangerssuck" wrote in message

...
On Aug 7, 4:52 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote:



I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the three
wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them has
worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie motorcycle
a
few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a Smart Car emblem on
there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem. Didn't do it, but hey... I
thought it was funny.
--

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills:http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills:http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping:http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site:http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS:http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill

V8013-R

Around here (Bergen County, NJ) the Smart Car is carried by the huge
Mercedes dealer. Sort of tells you something about "Smart = Status"
for some folks.

It is built by Mercedes.

OK that explains why the Mercedes dealer sells them. Now explain why
people buy them :-)

Pete C. wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

Pete C. wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and
the three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing
them has worn off for me. Now, they're just little
go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game
in Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently
not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a
bunch of them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they
form herds. Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will
eventually become immune to antibiotics.

LOL
What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling
anything "a death trap ".

Thrown clear vs. compacted... Some survival chance vs. coffin...

Never seen an LA Freeway, apparently.
"Thrown clear" equals "Knocked off and then Run over".

Still preferable to "compacted in a tin can" I think.

I'm sure you do but can only wonder why.
The striking thing about Smart owners is that they seem not to die in their
vehicles. Driving a dinky car is different.
The same cannot be said of Bikers, and I spent four years in CA with one of
the original Kitana's and then an GSX 1100 R.
That was four years of making the mistake of thinking I was invincible. I
wasn't, just lucky.....

--
John R. Carroll

Pete C. wrote:

Thrown clear vs. compacted... Some survival chance vs. coffin...

Indeed. I bounced a motorcycle off the back of a Buick in the 70's at
about 35mph. Walked away. Well, ok, limped away... Sore as hell, but not
so much as a scratched elbow despite not wearing a helmet. Last time I
ever rode without one too...

Jon

Ed Huntress wrote:

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
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Pete C. wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

Pete C. wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
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Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and
the three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing
them has worn off for me. Now, they're just little
go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game
in Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently
not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a
bunch of them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they
form herds. Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will
eventually become immune to antibiotics.

LOL
What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling
anything "a death trap ".

Thrown clear vs. compacted... Some survival chance vs. coffin...

Never seen an LA Freeway, apparently.
"Thrown clear" equals "Knocked off and then Run over".

Still preferable to "compacted in a tin can" I think.

I'm sure you do but can only wonder why.
The striking thing about Smart owners is that they seem not to die in
their
vehicles. Driving a dinky car is different.
The same cannot be said of Bikers, and I spent four years in CA with one
of
the original Kitana's and then an GSX 1100 R.
That was four years of making the mistake of thinking I was invincible. I
wasn't, just lucky.....

--
John R. Carroll

Your chance of dying while riding a motorcycle is eight times greater than
your chance in a car, on a per-mile basis. I doubt if the Smart Car is eight
times more deadly than the average car.

I suspect that your chances of being in an accident are slightly higher
in a smart car due to it's relative invisibility in some traffic
conditions. I'm pretty sure your chances of serious injury or death if
you are in an accident are a good deal higher in a smart car than in a
"normal" size vehicle, unless of course you have an accident with
another midget car.

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On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:50:08 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
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Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and the
three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing them
has worn off for me. Now, they're just little go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game in
Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a
bunch of them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they form
herds. Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will
eventually become immune to antibiotics.

LOL
What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling anything
"a death trap ".

Yeah, those motorcycle riders are dangerous! Everytime I see one the
guy is talking on a cell phone, or eating lunch, or reading a paper,
or texting, or putting on make-up, or changing the lumbar support, or
talking to the passenger.

Does stupid come natural to you, or are you taking a night class?

Snarl

I once observed a guy on a motorcycle behind me take his helmet off, put
it in his lap, take his shirt off and then put his helmet back on
(summer time). This sounds simple enough, however were were traveling
about 40 mph down a slight hill at the time.

"Edward A. Falk" wrote:

In article ,
Wes wrote:

I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3bFhVvdlaI

Top Gear ran a smart car into a cement wall at 70 mph. The car and
the wall both took a beating. The front end was reduced to confetti,
but the passenger compartment was remarkably undamaged. The passenger
door was even still openeable.

I don't know if the accident was survivable, but the car did a lot better
than you would suspect.

Most of us have done the egg drop thing in high school science class and
know that the condition of the exterior cage has little to do with the
condition of the contents after impact.

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
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Pete C. wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote:


Your chance of dying while riding a motorcycle is eight times greater
than your chance in a car, on a per-mile basis. I doubt if the Smart
Car is eight times more deadly than the average car.

I doubt that there is a citable statistic Ed, but my experience is that the
deadliness of the conveyance is directly proportional to the attentiveness
and experience of the operator.

I can tell you that is a statistical fact with small private passenger
aircraft, business class turbo-props ( Yeah - from the S/M) and business
class jets both from my personal experience and the stats. Don't know about
anything land bound except boats and ships. The same is true there.

Paying attention, and not just to what you are doing but anticipating the
other guy, counts.
I'll bet people driving these cracker boxes do that. Good for them!

--
John R. Carroll

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On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:50:08 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
I saw a 'smart car' last week. It looked like a death trap and
the three wheel nuts thing
confirmed it.

1. We have 'em by the dozen here in NE NJ. The shock of seeing
them has worn off for me. Now, they're just little
go-carts-galore.

2. When I put a new gas tank on my six cylinder Honda Valkyrie
motorcycle a few months ago, I played with the idea of putting a
Smart Car emblem on there instead of the stock Valkyrie emblem.
Didn't do it, but hey... I thought it was funny.

They apparently toss the things in the canals as a drinking game in
Amsterdam.
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it but apparently not.

I'm starting to see them here in LA which means there must be a
bunch of them on the road.

They breed, given a favorable climate and enough food. Then they
form herds. Soon, they will begin to mutate. The fear is they will
eventually become immune to antibiotics.

LOL
What I find extremely humorous is a guy with a motorcycle calling
anything "a death trap ".

Yeah, those motorcycle riders are dangerous!

Only to themselves and their families as a rule.
They are hard on deer as well.

Everytime I see one the
guy is talking on a cell phone, or eating lunch, or reading a paper,
or texting, or putting on make-up, or changing the lumbar support, or
talking to the passenger.

Does stupid come natural to you, or are you taking a night class?

Neither, since I don't do any of that stuff.
I have, on the other hand, had cross traffic look directly at me - wait, and
then pull out.
Not while I was driving a car, of course.


--
John R. Carroll