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Question re. Synchronome electric clocks
Recently I saw a replica of a Synchronome electric master clock on display in a private museum. I noticed that part of the movement is a lever controller for manual operation (usually in the lower left hand side of the case, in pictures I have seen of other examples of this type of clock) with three positions, marked "N," "R," and "A." What is the function of this lever, and what do the letters n, r, and a stand for? (No jokes about the National Rifle Assoc., please). Regards, Ian D. |
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Ian W. Douglas wrote:
Recently I saw a replica of a Synchronome electric master clock on display in a private museum. I noticed that part of the movement is a lever controller for manual operation (usually in the lower left hand side of the case, in pictures I have seen of other examples of this type of clock) with three positions, marked "N," "R," and "A." What is the function of this lever, and what do the letters n, r, and a stand for? (No jokes about the National Rifle Assoc., please). Regards, Ian D. If memory serves, A and R stood for advance and retard -- used for setting. N maybe stands for normal. -- John Miller email domain: n4vu.com; username: jsm(@) |
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John Miller wrote:
Ian W. Douglas wrote: Recently I saw a replica of a Synchronome electric master clock on display in a private museum. I noticed that part of the movement is a lever controller for manual operation (usually in the lower left hand side of the case, in pictures I have seen of other examples of this type of clock) with three positions, marked "N," "R," and "A." What is the function of this lever, and what do the letters n, r, and a stand for? (No jokes about the National Rifle Assoc., please). Regards, Ian D. If memory serves, A and R stood for advance and retard -- used for setting. N maybe stands for normal. I believe that is correct. In the event of an interruption causing the Slaves (and Master) to show the wrong time, they could be rapidly stepped from the Master clock to reset them. The Master clock would then be set in the (N)ormal running position. I remember sitting in classrooms fascinated by the rapid clock motion on these occasions - and it wasn't exactly quiet about it as I recall. Usually the teacher would stop until it finished and he had (more or less) our attentions again. |
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WoofWoof wrote: John Miller wrote: Ian W. Douglas wrote: Recently I saw a replica of a Synchronome electric master clock on display in a private museum. I noticed that part of the movement is a lever controller for manual operation (usually in the lower left hand side of the case, in pictures I have seen of other examples of this type of clock) with three positions, marked "N," "R," and "A." What is the function of this lever, and what do the letters n, r, and a stand for? (No jokes about the National Rifle Assoc., please). Regards, Ian D. If memory serves, A and R stood for advance and retard -- used for setting. N maybe stands for normal. I believe that is correct. In the event of an interruption causing the Slaves (and Master) to show the wrong time, they could be rapidly stepped from the Master clock to reset them. The Master clock would then be set in the (N)ormal running position. I remember sitting in classrooms fascinated by the rapid clock motion on these occasions - and it wasn't exactly quiet about it as I recall. Usually the teacher would stop until it finished and he had (more or less) our attentions again. I remember in elementary school once seeing the clocks being set as you describe... remember being amazed. They were Simplex clocks IIRC. The folks over in alt.horology get on the subject of old master clock systems now and again... Erik |
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Here's some information on that interesting clock.
http://www.awco.org/Clocks/Synchronome/synchronome.htm |
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Retard is accomplished by lifting the click (pallet) out of the count
wheel. How the advance works is not obvious to me. http://www.awco.org/Clocks/Synchronome/mvtclose.jpg |
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There are 15 teeth in the count wheel, so I guess the slave clocks move
in 1/4 minute intervals. If the system is 5 sec slow, the setting procedure would be to bump the slave clocks up by 1/4 minute, then move the lever to the retard position for 10 seconds, then N. Factory guarantee was 2 sec/week per info in the pdf file. |
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There are 15 teeth in the count wheel, so I guess the slave clocks move in 1/4 minute intervals. If the system is 5 sec slow, the setting procedure would be to bump the slave clocks up by 1/4 minute, then move the lever to the retard position for 10 seconds, then N. Factory guarantee was 2 sec/week per info in the pdf file. they send a pulse every 30seconds, it uses a seconds pendulum and only pulls the index wheel around on the second swing or every 2 seconds. the index wheel has a finger attached that once per revolution pushes a locking away allowing the gravity arm to fall, it's roller pushes against the inclined plane fixed on the pendulum rod, this gives the impulse to the pendulum, once the roller is almost to the bottom of the inclined plane the gravity arm closes a contact which trips a solenoid that flicks the gravity arm back up to the lock position and at the same time any slave dials on the circuit will trip forward by 30seconds. the advance-retard lever when set to retard simply disconnects the slave dials from the circuit, so if you wanted to turn back the clocks for daylight saving you set the lever on retard for an hour, the slave dials will not advance until you set the lever back on N or neutral/normal. there is generally an extra set of contacts attached to the pendulum rod up high and hidden behind the slave dial(if one is fitted), these are used for 1 second impulses or signals, when the lever is set to Advance the slave dial circuit is now wired to the seconds contacts and all slave dials attached will now jump forward in 30second increments every second, this way all the slave dials can catch up to the correct time. operation the A-N-R lever does not affect the running of the master clock. the better set-up master clocks had a "synchroniser" added, it worked similar to a chronograph reset lever, on a signal from a timebase like a radio time signal, the synchroniser would reset the index wheel so the slave dials would trip within a couple of seconds of the correct time. BTW the setting of the slave dials, the time shown on the dials is dependant on the position of the index wheel, if the index wheel is 25seconds out all the slave dials will trip 25seconds out and no amount of fiddling with the A-N-R lever is going to fix that, you have to turn the index wheel around so when the gravity arm drops it's on or close to the 60second mark. |
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