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Thanks for the free air tools!
Thanks to who ever let us know about the aircompressor lawsuit. I got a free
3/8 air ratchet that's not bad (for free) and the $2.50 blowgun is now the prized possession of my three year old! Pedroman |
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"Pedro" wrote in message news:BILRd.11529$zH6.10960@attbi_s53... Thanks to who ever let us know about the aircompressor lawsuit. I got a free 3/8 air ratchet that's not bad (for free) and the $2.50 blowgun is now the prized possession of my three year old! Pedroman I hope you're not letting your three year old play with a blowgun hooked up to an air compressor. They can be very dangerous, in a number of ways. |
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ATP* wrote:
"Pedro" wrote in message news:BILRd.11529$zH6.10960@attbi_s53... Thanks to who ever let us know about the aircompressor lawsuit. I got a free 3/8 air ratchet that's not bad (for free) and the $2.50 blowgun is now the prized possession of my three year old! Pedroman I hope you're not letting your three year old play with a blowgun hooked up to an air compressor. They can be very dangerous, in a number of ways. But fun, if it's under _very_ close supervision. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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Tim Wescott wrote:
ATP* wrote: "Pedro" wrote in message news:BILRd.11529$zH6.10960@attbi_s53... Thanks to who ever let us know about the aircompressor lawsuit. I got a free 3/8 air ratchet that's not bad (for free) and the $2.50 blowgun is now the prized possession of my three year old! Pedroman I hope you're not letting your three year old play with a blowgun hooked up to an air compressor. They can be very dangerous, in a number of ways. But fun, if it's under _very_ close supervision. I turn my regulator down to about 15 psi and turn my 3-year-old loose with a blow gun all the time while I'm working in the shop. Make sure it's one with the little safety holes on the side. Dangerous? Were you never a kid or what? All the cool stuff is 'too dangerous' now. Jason |
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"Jason Marshall" wrote in message ... I turn my regulator down to about 15 psi and turn my 3-year-old loose with a blow gun all the time while I'm working in the shop. Make sure it's one with the little safety holes on the side. Dangerous? Were you never a kid or what? All the cool stuff is 'too dangerous' now. I don't know what 15psi feels like, but you get precisely two eyes and no more. At work, carelessness can mean anything from a cut finger to getting crushed under 2,500 tons. These opportunities expose themselves every couple of seconds for the entire shift. Regards, Robin |
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"Jason Marshall" wrote in message ... Tim Wescott wrote: ATP* wrote: "Pedro" wrote in message news:BILRd.11529$zH6.10960@attbi_s53... Thanks to who ever let us know about the aircompressor lawsuit. I got a free 3/8 air ratchet that's not bad (for free) and the $2.50 blowgun is now the prized possession of my three year old! Pedroman I hope you're not letting your three year old play with a blowgun hooked up to an air compressor. They can be very dangerous, in a number of ways. But fun, if it's under _very_ close supervision. I turn my regulator down to about 15 psi and turn my 3-year-old loose with a blow gun all the time while I'm working in the shop. Make sure it's one with the little safety holes on the side. Dangerous? Were you never a kid or what? All the cool stuff is 'too dangerous' now. Jason Things are different now, but kids can still have fun. Your shop must be a lot safer than mine:-) |
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Jason Marshall writes:
I turn my regulator down to about 15 psi and turn my 3-year-old loose with a blow gun all the time while I'm working in the shop. Do you know the bursting strength of the tympanic membrane? |
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:06:01 -0700, Bill Rude wrote:
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:48:21 -0600, Richard J Kinch wrote: Jason Marshall writes: I turn my regulator down to about 15 psi and turn my 3-year-old loose with a blow gun all the time while I'm working in the shop. Do you know the bursting strength of the tympanic membrane? Quiet, Darwin is at work here............ I didn't know an eardrum was needed for reproduction. |
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On 21 Feb 2005 17:20:35 GMT, the renowned Dave Hinz
wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:06:01 -0700, Bill Rude wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:48:21 -0600, Richard J Kinch wrote: Jason Marshall writes: I turn my regulator down to about 15 psi and turn my 3-year-old loose with a blow gun all the time while I'm working in the shop. Do you know the bursting strength of the tympanic membrane? Quiet, Darwin is at work here............ I didn't know an eardrum was needed for reproduction. It might actually work against the process. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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"Bill Rude" wrote in message ... On 21 Feb 2005 17:20:35 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:06:01 -0700, Bill Rude wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:48:21 -0600, Richard J Kinch wrote: Jason Marshall writes: I turn my regulator down to about 15 psi and turn my 3-year-old loose with a blow gun all the time while I'm working in the shop. Do you know the bursting strength of the tympanic membrane? Quiet, Darwin is at work here............ I didn't know an eardrum was needed for reproduction. There's other places where 15psi might be deadly. Yeah, I've heard that story too. Compressed air seems innocuous because it's "just air". But it can be dangerous in a number of ways that might not be so obvious. |
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:42:34 -0500, "ATP*" wrote:
"Bill Rude" wrote in message .. . On 21 Feb 2005 17:20:35 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:06:01 -0700, Bill Rude wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:48:21 -0600, Richard J Kinch wrote: Jason Marshall writes: I turn my regulator down to about 15 psi and turn my 3-year-old loose with a blow gun all the time while I'm working in the shop. Do you know the bursting strength of the tympanic membrane? Quiet, Darwin is at work here............ I didn't know an eardrum was needed for reproduction. There's other places where 15psi might be deadly. Yeah, I've heard that story too. Compressed air seems innocuous because it's "just air". But it can be dangerous in a number of ways that might not be so obvious. NEVER "goose" a co-worker with a high pressure blow gun - it becomes very nasty. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:21:40 -0700, Bill Rude wrote:
On 21 Feb 2005 17:20:35 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:06:01 -0700, Bill Rude wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:48:21 -0600, Richard J Kinch wrote: Jason Marshall writes: I turn my regulator down to about 15 psi and turn my 3-year-old loose with a blow gun all the time while I'm working in the shop. Do you know the bursting strength of the tympanic membrane? Quiet, Darwin is at work here............ I didn't know an eardrum was needed for reproduction. There's other places where 15psi might be deadly. Actually, the average pressure required to burst human lungs is a 3 psi differential. I know. It seems low. But that's what it is. And minor damage can occur at less than 1 pound differential on ear drums. Don't know what the low limit for lungs is. Wonder how much pressure it takes to burst an eye? Betcha 15 psi coming out of an air gun has enough speed to push random dust pretty deep into an eye though. ERS |
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:02:04 -0800, the inscrutable Eric R Snow
spake: Actually, the average pressure required to burst human lungs is a 3 psi differential. I know. It seems low. But that's what it is. And minor damage can occur at less than 1 pound differential on ear drums. Wow, I'm surprised more of both aren't burst. Don't know what the low limit for lungs is. Wonder how much pressure it takes to burst an eye? Betcha 15 psi coming out of an air gun has enough speed to push random dust pretty deep into an eye though. ERS Don't you guys remember when WE were kids and there were no safeguards on anything? Breeding a helpless set of kids is NOT in our best interests, especially when it's they who will take care of us in our old age. Caution the kids, sure. But let them make the very same dumb mistakes we made if they must. We all healed when we got super dumb, right? -- ************************************************** ********* "Boy, I feel safer now that Martha Stewart is behind bars! O.J. is walking around free, Osama Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook and clean and work in the yard and haul her ass to jail." --Tim Allen ************************************************** ********* |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:02:04 -0800, the inscrutable Eric R Snow spake: Actually, the average pressure required to burst human lungs is a 3 psi differential. I know. It seems low. But that's what it is. And minor damage can occur at less than 1 pound differential on ear drums. Wow, I'm surprised more of both aren't burst. Don't know what the low limit for lungs is. Wonder how much pressure it takes to burst an eye? Betcha 15 psi coming out of an air gun has enough speed to push random dust pretty deep into an eye though. ERS Don't you guys remember when WE were kids and there were no safeguards on anything? Breeding a helpless set of kids is NOT in our best interests, especially when it's they who will take care of us in our old age. Caution the kids, sure. But let them make the very same dumb mistakes we made if they must. We all healed when we got super dumb, right? This is a self-selecting set in that regard, Larry. The ones who didn't aren't here to answer your question. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:02:04 -0800, Eric R Snow
wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:21:40 -0700, Bill Rude wrote: On 21 Feb 2005 17:20:35 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:06:01 -0700, Bill Rude wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:48:21 -0600, Richard J Kinch wrote: Jason Marshall writes: I turn my regulator down to about 15 psi and turn my 3-year-old loose with a blow gun all the time while I'm working in the shop. Do you know the bursting strength of the tympanic membrane? Quiet, Darwin is at work here............ I didn't know an eardrum was needed for reproduction. There's other places where 15psi might be deadly. Actually, the average pressure required to burst human lungs is a 3 psi differential. I know. It seems low. But that's what it is. And minor damage can occur at less than 1 pound differential on ear drums. Don't know what the low limit for lungs is. Wonder how much pressure it takes to burst an eye? Betcha 15 psi coming out of an air gun has enough speed to push random dust pretty deep into an eye though. ERS Done properly..it only takes 10-15 pounds to pop an eyeball out of the socket at most. Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:46:39 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: Don't you guys remember when WE were kids and there were no safeguards on anything? Breeding a helpless set of kids is NOT in our best interests, especially when it's they who will take care of us in our old age. Caution the kids, sure. But let them make the very same dumb mistakes we made if they must. We all healed when we got super dumb, right? And everyone needs to feel that moment of.. the moment of dazzling crystalline clarity..when you realize and know completely and utterly to the depths of your core, that you just ****ed up. Been there, done that. More 'en once. Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
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Dave Hinz wrote:
I didn't know an eardrum was needed for reproduction. Not Married HUH ? You may not need to understand what they say but try reproducing without at least the appearance of listening ;-) Ken Cutt |
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:03:06 -0500, the inscrutable "Ed Huntress"
spake: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message Don't you guys remember when WE were kids and there were no safeguards on anything? Breeding a helpless set of kids is NOT in our best interests, especially when it's they who will take care of us in our old age. Caution the kids, sure. But let them make the very same dumb mistakes we made if they must. We all healed when we got super dumb, right? This is a self-selecting set in that regard, Larry. The ones who didn't aren't here to answer your question. Darwin at his best! -- ************************************************** ********* "Boy, I feel safer now that Martha Stewart is behind bars! O.J. is walking around free, Osama Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook and clean and work in the yard and haul her ass to jail." --Tim Allen ************************************************** ********* |
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:46:39 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:02:04 -0800, the inscrutable Eric R Snow spake: Actually, the average pressure required to burst human lungs is a 3 psi differential. I know. It seems low. But that's what it is. And minor damage can occur at less than 1 pound differential on ear drums. Wow, I'm surprised more of both aren't burst. Don't know what the low limit for lungs is. Wonder how much pressure it takes to burst an eye? Betcha 15 psi coming out of an air gun has enough speed to push random dust pretty deep into an eye though. ERS Don't you guys remember when WE were kids and there were no safeguards on anything? Breeding a helpless set of kids is NOT in our best interests, especially when it's they who will take care of us in our old age. Caution the kids, sure. But let them make the very same dumb mistakes we made if they must. We all healed when we got super dumb, right? Yeah, one friend of mine healed up fine, but his fingers didn't grow back after the saw cut 'em off. And another friend survived his broken neck but is still a quadriplegic. Oh, and there's the one who blew his fingers off with a cherry bomb. And speaking of fingers, my neighbor stuck his finger on the chain of his bicycle and lost it at the first joint. Then there's the kid who lost an eye when his brother shot him with an arrow. Seems like giving a three year old an air gun at even 15 psi is pretty stupid. Especially when his dad is gone and he gets a hold of the air hose at 90 psi. ERS |
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:58:30 -0800, Ken Cutt wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote: I didn't know an eardrum was needed for reproduction. Not Married HUH ? You may not need to understand what they say but try reproducing without at least the appearance of listening ;-) uh huh, yes dear. |
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Actually, the average pressure required to burst human lungs is a 3
psi differential. I know. It seems low. But that's what it is. Anyone who has had scuba training knows that the pressue differential of a few feet can kill you. If you wear a scuba tank into a pool, go three to five feet down, take a breath, hold your breath, and come up, you will rupture your lungs. And minor damage can occur at less than 1 pound differential on ear drums. Wow, I'm surprised more of both aren't burst. I have about 30% hearing loss in both ears. Too much industrial noise. When I was in commercial diver training, we made chamber runs. We pressurized to 200' in forty seconds. No wonder I am hard of hearing. Steve |
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:14:10 -0800, the inscrutable Eric R Snow
spake: On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:46:39 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: Don't you guys remember when WE were kids and there were no safeguards on anything? Breeding a helpless set of kids is NOT in our best interests, especially when it's they who will take care of us in our old age. Caution the kids, sure. But let them make the very same dumb mistakes we made if they must. We all healed when we got super dumb, right? Yeah, one friend of mine healed up fine, but his fingers didn't grow back after the saw cut 'em off. And another friend survived his broken neck but is still a quadriplegic. Oh, and there's the one who blew his fingers off with a cherry bomb. And speaking of fingers, my neighbor stuck his finger on the chain of his bicycle and lost it at the first joint. Then there's the kid who lost an eye when his brother shot him with an arrow. And I'll bet each was already all warned about each episode before it took place. Boys will be boys. C'est la vie, c'est la guerre. Seems like giving a three year old an air gun at even 15 psi is pretty stupid. Especially when his dad is gone and he gets a hold of the air hose at 90 psi. I guess I'll have to stop reacting to the folks who want to make life safe for everyone without a brain and go along with you on this one. -- ************************************************** ********* "Boy, I feel safer now that Martha Stewart is behind bars! O.J. is walking around free, Osama Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook and clean and work in the yard and haul her ass to jail." --Tim Allen ************************************************** ********* |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Dave Hinz
wrote back on 21 Feb 2005 17:20:35 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking : On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:06:01 -0700, Bill Rude wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:48:21 -0600, Richard J Kinch wrote: Jason Marshall writes: I turn my regulator down to about 15 psi and turn my 3-year-old loose with a blow gun all the time while I'm working in the shop. Do you know the bursting strength of the tympanic membrane? Quiet, Darwin is at work here............ I didn't know an eardrum was needed for reproduction. If you can't hear her say "Doing anything, big boy?" there is a whole lot less chance of you having kids who don't listen to you either. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." |
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I'm still trying to come to grips with the fact that he has added CH tools to his collection and he feels that it is, somehow, an improvement...... |
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In article , Gunner says...
And everyone needs to feel that moment of.. the moment of dazzling crystalline clarity..when you realize and know completely and utterly to the depths of your core, that you just ****ed up. This is the definition of "Klong." That rush of **** to your heart.... Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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In article , Robin S. says...
I don't know what 15psi feels like, but you get precisely two eyes and no more. Like the sign says, "Do Not Stare into Airgun with Remaining Eyeball." Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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