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Eric R Snow
 
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Default Backhoes. I got the plans. Now I got a backhoe.

So I've looked at several backhoes in the last couple years but they
were all too expensive for me. Then I rented a small excavator. Boy,
was that fun! So, I bought a set of plans from a guy who posted a
message here about plans for sale. He sent me the wrong plans by
mistake and when I e-mailed him about this he sent me the right plans
and told me to keep the ones he sent by mistake. Then, because that's
how life is, a good deal on a backhoe comes my way. After selling the
1939 Ford 9N, my cost for upgrading to a 1974 Case 580 CK bucket
loader with backhoe will be $1500.00. About what I was planning on
spending for a home made excavator. So I now have plans for a couple
machines that I'm probably not gonna build. And a besides the backhoe,
I have a bucket loader. My neighbor owns an excavating business and
does all my real dirtwork. Like excavating and preparing the site for
my shop. When he did the site for the green house he said it would be
easier for all if I rented a small excavator to do all the ditch work.
He knows he will still be doing all my major work and maybe that's why
he only charged me $80.00 for picking up and delivering the new
machine to me and spending an hour showing me how it worked and what
to look out for. Getting lessons from someone who really knows what
they are doing is great. I gotta go now because the machine is warmed
up and I wanna play.
Cheers,
ERS
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In article ,
Eric R Snow wrote:

Getting lessons from someone who really knows what
they are doing is great. I gotta go now because the machine is warmed
up and I wanna play.


They can be a lot of fun. While your nighbor probably said all this, it
bears repeating: Try to avoid having help in the movement zone - one
wrong lever push, bad things happen. Likewise, even though they are very
useful for picking things up, remember that any of several failures
(such as a burst hose) can mean the load will drop - and you want to
make sure that you only do that sort of thing so it all dropping, at any
time, will only hurt machinery, not people. If your machine has a ROPS,
use the seatbelt, every time. If it does not have a ROPS, it should not
have a seatbelt at all. In either case, be very careful about the ground
you are moving over and operating on - they can take a lot, but when
they get to the tipping point, there's little if any time to recover.

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"Eric R Snow" wrote in message
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So I've looked at several backhoes in the last couple years but they
were all too expensive for me. Then I rented a small excavator. Boy,
was that fun! So, I bought a set of plans from a guy who posted a
message here about plans for sale. He sent me the wrong plans by
mistake and when I e-mailed him about this he sent me the right plans
and told me to keep the ones he sent by mistake. Then, because that's
how life is, a good deal on a backhoe comes my way. After selling the
1939 Ford 9N, my cost for upgrading to a 1974 Case 580 CK bucket
loader with backhoe will be $1500.00. About what I was planning on
spending for a home made excavator. So I now have plans for a couple
machines that I'm probably not gonna build. And a besides the backhoe,
I have a bucket loader. My neighbor owns an excavating business and
does all my real dirtwork. Like excavating and preparing the site for
my shop. When he did the site for the green house he said it would be
easier for all if I rented a small excavator to do all the ditch work.
He knows he will still be doing all my major work and maybe that's why
he only charged me $80.00 for picking up and delivering the new
machine to me and spending an hour showing me how it worked and what
to look out for. Getting lessons from someone who really knows what
they are doing is great. I gotta go now because the machine is warmed
up and I wanna play.
Cheers,
ERS


I suggest you put your metalworking skills to good use and build a thumb for
your backhoe. Trust me, you won't be disappointed.

Shawn


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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:29:10 GMT, the inscrutable Ecnerwal
spake:

In article ,
Eric R Snow wrote:

Getting lessons from someone who really knows what
they are doing is great. I gotta go now because the machine is warmed
up and I wanna play.


You suck, Eric. /jealousy (Congrats on the new trade-in toy.)


They can be a lot of fun. While your nighbor probably said all this, it
bears repeating: Try to avoid having help in the movement zone - one
wrong lever push, bad things happen. Likewise, even though they are very
useful for picking things up, remember that any of several failures
(such as a burst hose) can mean the load will drop - and you want to
make sure that you only do that sort of thing so it all dropping, at any
time, will only hurt machinery, not people. If your machine has a ROPS,
use the seatbelt, every time. If it does not have a ROPS, it should not
have a seatbelt at all. In either case, be very careful about the ground
you are moving over and operating on - they can take a lot, but when
they get to the tipping point, there's little if any time to recover.


And here's what happens when you tip it:
http://www.craneaccidents.com/drp.htm Don't Do This!


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Does anyone have plans for an easy to build backhoe thumb? I'd like to add
one to my small tractor BH and to my Ford 550. Thanks!

John

"Shawn" shawn_75ATcomcastDOTnet wrote in message
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"Eric R Snow" wrote in message
...
So I've looked at several backhoes in the last couple years but they
were all too expensive for me. Then I rented a small excavator. Boy,
was that fun! So, I bought a set of plans from a guy who posted a
message here about plans for sale. He sent me the wrong plans by
mistake and when I e-mailed him about this he sent me the right plans
and told me to keep the ones he sent by mistake. Then, because that's
how life is, a good deal on a backhoe comes my way. After selling the
1939 Ford 9N, my cost for upgrading to a 1974 Case 580 CK bucket
loader with backhoe will be $1500.00. About what I was planning on
spending for a home made excavator. So I now have plans for a couple
machines that I'm probably not gonna build. And a besides the backhoe,
I have a bucket loader. My neighbor owns an excavating business and
does all my real dirtwork. Like excavating and preparing the site for
my shop. When he did the site for the green house he said it would be
easier for all if I rented a small excavator to do all the ditch work.
He knows he will still be doing all my major work and maybe that's why
he only charged me $80.00 for picking up and delivering the new
machine to me and spending an hour showing me how it worked and what
to look out for. Getting lessons from someone who really knows what
they are doing is great. I gotta go now because the machine is warmed
up and I wanna play.
Cheers,
ERS


I suggest you put your metalworking skills to good use and build a thumb

for
your backhoe. Trust me, you won't be disappointed.

Shawn







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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:09:53 -0500, "Shawn" shawn_75ATcomcastDOTnet
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"Eric R Snow" wrote in message
.. .
So I've looked at several backhoes in the last couple years but they
were all too expensive for me. Then I rented a small excavator. Boy,
was that fun! So, I bought a set of plans from a guy who posted a
message here about plans for sale. He sent me the wrong plans by
mistake and when I e-mailed him about this he sent me the right plans
and told me to keep the ones he sent by mistake. Then, because that's
how life is, a good deal on a backhoe comes my way. After selling the
1939 Ford 9N, my cost for upgrading to a 1974 Case 580 CK bucket
loader with backhoe will be $1500.00. About what I was planning on
spending for a home made excavator. So I now have plans for a couple
machines that I'm probably not gonna build. And a besides the backhoe,
I have a bucket loader. My neighbor owns an excavating business and
does all my real dirtwork. Like excavating and preparing the site for
my shop. When he did the site for the green house he said it would be
easier for all if I rented a small excavator to do all the ditch work.
He knows he will still be doing all my major work and maybe that's why
he only charged me $80.00 for picking up and delivering the new
machine to me and spending an hour showing me how it worked and what
to look out for. Getting lessons from someone who really knows what
they are doing is great. I gotta go now because the machine is warmed
up and I wanna play.
Cheers,
ERS


I suggest you put your metalworking skills to good use and build a thumb for
your backhoe. Trust me, you won't be disappointed.

Shawn

That's first on the list. I am looking for another Case 580 that has a
thumb. When I see one I'll take a picture of it. I almost always have
a camera with me.
ERS
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Larry Jaques wrote:

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have a seatbelt at all. In either case, be very careful about the ground
you are moving over and operating on - they can take a lot, but when
they get to the tipping point, there's little if any time to recover.


And here's what happens when you tip it:
http://www.craneaccidents.com/drp.htm Don't Do This!


And although totally on-topic, don't do this either:
http://www.craneaccidents.com/dummy/contraption.htm (:

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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:09:53 -0500, Shawn wrote:

I suggest you put your metalworking skills to good use and build a thumb for
your backhoe. Trust me, you won't be disappointed.


And if you're anywhere near Wisconsin, I have a hydraulic cylinder you
could use. I always planned to do this, but just sold the hoe...

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On 24 Jan 2005 21:08:16 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:09:53 -0500, Shawn wrote:

I suggest you put your metalworking skills to good use and build a thumb for
your backhoe. Trust me, you won't be disappointed.


And if you're anywhere near Wisconsin, I have a hydraulic cylinder you
could use. I always planned to do this, but just sold the hoe...

Thanks for the offer. But I'm on the west coast. Pretty far from you.
But if you want to come out and vist bring the thing. We roast a pig
the first saturday in august.
ERS
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:22:26 -0800, Eric R Snow wrote:
On 24 Jan 2005 21:08:16 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:09:53 -0500, Shawn wrote:

I suggest you put your metalworking skills to good use and build a thumb for
your backhoe. Trust me, you won't be disappointed.


And if you're anywhere near Wisconsin, I have a hydraulic cylinder you
could use. I always planned to do this, but just sold the hoe...

Thanks for the offer. But I'm on the west coast. Pretty far from you.
But if you want to come out and vist bring the thing. We roast a pig
the first saturday in august.


Anywhere near the Bay Area? I need to head out there about then...



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On 24 Jan 2005 22:40:44 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:22:26 -0800, Eric R Snow wrote:
On 24 Jan 2005 21:08:16 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:09:53 -0500, Shawn wrote:

I suggest you put your metalworking skills to good use and build a thumb for
your backhoe. Trust me, you won't be disappointed.

And if you're anywhere near Wisconsin, I have a hydraulic cylinder you
could use. I always planned to do this, but just sold the hoe...

Thanks for the offer. But I'm on the west coast. Pretty far from you.
But if you want to come out and vist bring the thing. We roast a pig
the first saturday in august.


Anywhere near the Bay Area? I need to head out there about then...

About thirty miles north of Seattle. 17 hours from the Bay Area. But
That's OK, you can camp out here. Lotsa folks do. We got 10 acres so
there's plenty of room
ERS
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aqhs zaaOn Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:22:26 -0800, Eric R Snow
wrote:

On 24 Jan 2005 21:08:16 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:09:53 -0500, Shawn wrote:

I suggest you put your metalworking skills to good use and build a thumb for
your backhoe. Trust me, you won't be disappointed.


And if you're anywhere near Wisconsin, I have a hydraulic cylinder you
could use. I always planned to do this, but just sold the hoe...

Thanks for the offer. But I'm on the west coast. Pretty far from you.
But if you want to come out and vist bring the thing. We roast a pig
the first saturday in august.
ERS


What are you looking for, Eric? I missed most of this thread.

Gunner

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miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
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