On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:07:24 GMT, "David Todtman"
wrote:

Note: this is cross-posted to rec.crafts.metalworking

On the declining art of safecracking. And, another example of cultural loss
due to declines in people going into the trades.

http://www.timhunkin.com/94_illegal_engineering.htm


Very cool!


"If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third
hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're
around."

"Democrat. In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right
before demode` (out of fashion).
-Buddy Jordan 2001

Interesting read, but as I am able to start most cars with no or little
damage, i will not pass that skill on to others, except fellow mechanics,
who i know to be of good character.
Some things shouldn't be on the net.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Paul Calman wrote:

Interesting read, but as I am able to start most cars with no or little
damage, i will not pass that skill on to others, except fellow mechanics,
who i know to be of good character.
Some things shouldn't be on the net.

Why not?

I guess a lot of people have knowledge of many skills that could be used
for "illegal" activities, but we choose not to. Not sharing the skills
just means that they can be "lost" again. Many a civilisation has
foundered by skills/knowledge not being shared.

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:27:54 +1100, Terry Collins
wrote:

Paul Calman wrote:

Interesting read, but as I am able to start most cars with no or little
damage, i will not pass that skill on to others, except fellow mechanics,
who i know to be of good character.
Some things shouldn't be on the net.

Why not?

I guess a lot of people have knowledge of many skills that could be used
for "illegal" activities, but we choose not to. Not sharing the skills
just means that they can be "lost" again. Many a civilisation has
foundered by skills/knowledge not being shared.

Those of us who are male are equipped to be rapists. That we choose
not be be and use the equipment in consensual uses shows that the
equipment is not the problem, like information.

Gunner

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling
which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being
free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
- John Stewart Mill

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:21:45 UTC, Gunner
wrote:

Those of us who are male are equipped to be rapists. That we choose
not be be and use the equipment in consensual uses shows that the
equipment is not the problem, like information.

Gunner

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling
which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being
free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
- John Stewart Mill

Gunner quoting, with seeming approval, a liberal (real, not american
definition) who tended towards socialism in his old age... what next?

Chris
--

On 31 Dec 2004 19:04:28 +0700, "Chris Lasdauskas"
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:21:45 UTC, Gunner
wrote:

Those of us who are male are equipped to be rapists. That we choose
not be be and use the equipment in consensual uses shows that the
equipment is not the problem, like information.

Gunner

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling
which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being
free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
- John Stewart Mill

Gunner quoting, with seeming approval, a liberal (real, not american
definition) who tended towards socialism in his old age... what next?

Chris

Im a Liberal, (not American definition), so why would I not quote
Mills?

As to his lapse into an interest into socialism, senile dementia is
such a terrible thing in the elderly.

Gunner

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling
which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being
free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
- John Stewart Mill