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Default need cap for residential A/C service valve

I topped off the R-22 in my ancient home A/C yesterday, and when putting it
all back together, I dropped the cap for the service valve. This is the
thing with about a 3/4" hex and a cylindrical dome above it, that seals the
valve stem of the service valve. I thought the cap was steel, and searched
the whole area with a strong magnet, then assuming maybe it was brass I
searched some more with my hands, but still have not found the darn thing!
I'd swear I saw where it dropped, too, but just a minute later it was not
there.

Anybody know where I could get one of these? This is for a 44 year-old
Bryant condensing unit. I looked on eBay, but nothing came up.

Thanks for any tips,

Jon
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On 8/15/2020 9:37 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
I topped off the R-22 in my ancient home A/C yesterday, and when putting it
all back together, I dropped the cap for the service valve. This is the
thing with about a 3/4" hex and a cylindrical dome above it, that seals the
valve stem of the service valve. I thought the cap was steel, and searched
the whole area with a strong magnet, then assuming maybe it was brass I
searched some more with my hands, but still have not found the darn thing!
I'd swear I saw where it dropped, too, but just a minute later it was not
there.

Anybody know where I could get one of these? This is for a 44 year-old
Bryant condensing unit. I looked on eBay, but nothing came up.

Thanks for any tips,

Jon


HVAC FLARE CAP

They are inexpensive usually brass and readily available from a
refrigeration supply shop. The service port is typically a male flare
taper and thread, and the service port cap usually has a gasket in it
that seals against the end of the service port. Usually they are 1/4
inch flare, but some equipment may have 3/8 flare. I think one of my
HVAC units has one odd size cap. On service equipment such as vacuum
pumps and evacuation pumps you can find them in brass or plastic used to
keep airborne dust out of the equipment when not in use. Steel is
unlikely as it would react with the brass body of the service port.

If you are in the USA I'd be glad to send you one. I have atleast a
half dozen brand new 1/4 inch flare caps in my box of HVAC service
stuff. More than likely you can go to a local HVAC supplier and get one
on Monday quicker than I could mail one to you.

Many HVAC techs reuse them, but because of the gasket I treat them as a
replaceable service item.

Places like "Supply House" ship nationwide if you don't have a local
refrigeration supplier, and you would prefer to purchase them.

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Goodman-...-Valve-Cap-Kit

I think it is unlikely that a big box supplier like Home Depot or Lowes
would have a service port cap, but a smaller well stocked local hardware
store might. The chance is slim, but possible.

I believe they are available on Ebay as well.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro... odkw=hvac+cap

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On 8/15/2020 9:54 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 8/15/2020 9:37 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
I topped off the R-22 in my ancient home A/C yesterday, and when
putting it
all back together, I dropped the cap for the service valve.Â* This is the
thing with about a 3/4" hex and a cylindrical dome above it, that
seals the
valve stem of the service valve.Â* I thought the cap was steel, and
searched
the whole area with a strong magnet, then assuming maybe it was brass I
searched some more with my hands, but still have not found the darn
thing!
I'd swear I saw where it dropped, too, but just a minute later it was not
there.

Anybody know where I could get one of these?Â* This is for a 44 year-old
Bryant condensing unit.Â* I looked on eBay, but nothing came up.

Thanks for any tips,

Jon


HVAC FLARE CAP

They are inexpensive usually brass and readily available from a
refrigeration supply shop.Â* The service port is typically a male flare
taper and thread, and the service port cap usually has a gasket in it
that seals against the end of the service port.Â* Usually they are 1/4
inch flare, but some equipment may have 3/8 flare.Â* I think one of my
HVAC units has one odd size cap.Â* On service equipment such as vacuum
pumps and evacuation pumps you can find them in brass or plastic used to
keep airborne dust out of the equipment when not in use.Â* Steel is
unlikely as it would react with the brass body of the service port.

If you are in the USA I'd be glad to send you one.Â* I have atleast a
half dozen brand new 1/4 inch flare caps in my box of HVAC service
stuff.Â* More than likely you can go to a local HVAC supplier and get one
on Monday quicker than I could mail one to you.

Many HVAC techs reuse them, but because of the gasket I treat them as a
replaceable service item.

Places like "Supply House" ship nationwide if you don't have a local
refrigeration supplier, and you would prefer to purchase them.

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Goodman-...-Valve-Cap-Kit

I think it is unlikely that a big box supplier like Home Depot or Lowes
would have a service port cap, but a smaller well stocked local hardware
store might.Â* The chance is slim, but possible.

I believe they are available on Ebay as well.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro... odkw=hvac+cap




I didn't look, but I think Supply House also sells a "kit" of these
flare caps with several different sizes for around $10.


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On 8/15/2020 9:54 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 8/15/2020 9:37 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
I topped off the R-22 in my ancient home A/C yesterday, and when
putting it
all back together, I dropped the cap for the service valve.Â* This is the
thing with about a 3/4" hex and a cylindrical dome above it, that
seals the
valve stem of the service valve.Â* I thought the cap was steel, and
searched
the whole area with a strong magnet, then assuming maybe it was brass I
searched some more with my hands, but still have not found the darn
thing!
I'd swear I saw where it dropped, too, but just a minute later it was not
there.

Anybody know where I could get one of these?Â* This is for a 44 year-old
Bryant condensing unit.Â* I looked on eBay, but nothing came up.

Thanks for any tips,

Jon


HVAC FLARE CAP

They are inexpensive usually brass and readily available from a
refrigeration supply shop.Â* The service port is typically a male flare
taper and thread, and the service port cap usually has a gasket in it
that seals against the end of the service port.Â* Usually they are 1/4
inch flare, but some equipment may have 3/8 flare.Â* I think one of my
HVAC units has one odd size cap.Â* On service equipment such as vacuum
pumps and evacuation pumps you can find them in brass or plastic used to
keep airborne dust out of the equipment when not in use.Â* Steel is
unlikely as it would react with the brass body of the service port.

If you are in the USA I'd be glad to send you one.Â* I have atleast a
half dozen brand new 1/4 inch flare caps in my box of HVAC service
stuff.Â* More than likely you can go to a local HVAC supplier and get one
on Monday quicker than I could mail one to you.

Many HVAC techs reuse them, but because of the gasket I treat them as a
replaceable service item.

Places like "Supply House" ship nationwide if you don't have a local
refrigeration supplier, and you would prefer to purchase them.

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Goodman-...-Valve-Cap-Kit

I think it is unlikely that a big box supplier like Home Depot or Lowes
would have a service port cap, but a smaller well stocked local hardware
store might.Â* The chance is slim, but possible.

I believe they are available on Ebay as well.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro... odkw=hvac+cap




.... and if your standard manifold hoses fit on the service port without
an adapter then it probably uses a 1/4 inch flare cap.
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Jon Elson wrote:

I dropped the cap for the service valve. This is the
thing with about a 3/4" hex and a cylindrical dome above it, that seals
the
valve stem of the service valve.

Well, my friend came over with his metal detector, and found it in just a
couple minutes. So, all is well again, and the charge should hold for
another 10 years or so.

Thanks, everybody,

Jon


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On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 12:55:02 PM UTC-4, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 8/15/2020 9:37 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
I topped off the R-22 in my ancient home A/C yesterday, and when putting it
all back together, I dropped the cap for the service valve. This is the
thing with about a 3/4" hex and a cylindrical dome above it, that seals the
valve stem of the service valve. I thought the cap was steel, and searched
the whole area with a strong magnet, then assuming maybe it was brass I
searched some more with my hands, but still have not found the darn thing!
I'd swear I saw where it dropped, too, but just a minute later it was not
there.

Anybody know where I could get one of these? This is for a 44 year-old
Bryant condensing unit. I looked on eBay, but nothing came up.

Thanks for any tips,

Jon


HVAC FLARE CAP

They are inexpensive usually brass and readily available from a
refrigeration supply shop. The service port is typically a male flare
taper and thread, and the service port cap usually has a gasket in it
that seals against the end of the service port. Usually they are 1/4
inch flare, but some equipment may have 3/8 flare. I think one of my
HVAC units has one odd size cap. On service equipment such as vacuum
pumps and evacuation pumps you can find them in brass or plastic used to
keep airborne dust out of the equipment when not in use. Steel is
unlikely as it would react with the brass body of the service port.

If you are in the USA I'd be glad to send you one. I have atleast a
half dozen brand new 1/4 inch flare caps in my box of HVAC service
stuff. More than likely you can go to a local HVAC supplier and get one
on Monday quicker than I could mail one to you.

Many HVAC techs reuse them, but because of the gasket I treat them as a
replaceable service item.

Places like "Supply House" ship nationwide if you don't have a local
refrigeration supplier, and you would prefer to purchase them.

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Goodman-...-Valve-Cap-Kit

I think it is unlikely that a big box supplier like Home Depot or Lowes
would have a service port cap, but a smaller well stocked local hardware
store might. The chance is slim, but possible.

I believe they are available on Ebay as well.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro... odkw=hvac+cap


What he's describing isn't what you're describing. Based on him saying that it covers the stem on the valve, I'd be looking for the lighter-colored part of this: https://www.slevysurplus.com/used-eq...8-flare-7768-b

Of course if the valve packing is good and the bonnet nut is tight, the cover is superfluous. I serviced one machine that had 60 valves and the stems on every one of them leaked. The previous tech had simply applied a bunch of teflon tape & dope to the caps to keep them from leaking rather than about 5 minutes to disassemble, repack and reassemble. Somewhere out there is the worst mechanic in the world...
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