Posting to the watch thread got me thinking. Might as well ask ya'll
cause the company we bought them from kind of dropped the ball.

My wife (under 40) has arthritis and had to have her ring cut off and
I never wear mine. So I was thinking that something could be made out
of both for her that she could wear , and with only one diamond.

I did a couple of pools for this one guy that is into gem cutting and
has a centrifugal ahhh "thing" for gold. That maybe a way to go , but
I need to know at least basically what I want before I look him up.

Without getting the original company to do it I'm lost on how to make
sure the weight and the same diamond come back... He's probably
trustworthy , but he may not want to do it or take forever and within
a month would be cool. She cried about it for days , but she can't
resize the thing all the time so can't have another wedding ring.

Check into local "custom" jewelers. Those are the ones that have furnaces
for melting gold and casting in the lost wax process. We (wife and I) have
had a couple of pieces done where spare gold from old unused jewlery was
melted down and cast into a mount of our design. One in particular featured
the wifes ex-engagement diamond in the center and bezel consisting of small
rubies from another old piece. AFAIK, custom jewelers are trustworthy, but
check them out first. Since you are in Vegas, all bets are off! G

Bob Swinney
"Sunworshipper" wrote in message
...
Posting to the watch thread got me thinking. Might as well ask ya'll
cause the company we bought them from kind of dropped the ball.

My wife (under 40) has arthritis and had to have her ring cut off and
I never wear mine. So I was thinking that something could be made out
of both for her that she could wear , and with only one diamond.

I did a couple of pools for this one guy that is into gem cutting and
has a centrifugal ahhh "thing" for gold. That maybe a way to go , but
I need to know at least basically what I want before I look him up.

Without getting the original company to do it I'm lost on how to make
sure the weight and the same diamond come back... He's probably
trustworthy , but he may not want to do it or take forever and within
a month would be cool. She cried about it for days , but she can't
resize the thing all the time so can't have another wedding ring.

In article ,
"Robert Swinney" wrote:

I'm lost on how to make
sure the weight and the same diamond come back...

Keep it in your possession until he needs to mount it?

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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:48:12 -0500, "Robert Swinney"
wrote:

Check into local "custom" jewelers. Those are the ones that have furnaces
for melting gold and casting in the lost wax process. We (wife and I) have
had a couple of pieces done where spare gold from old unused jewlery was
melted down and cast into a mount of our design. One in particular featured
the wifes ex-engagement diamond in the center and bezel consisting of small
rubies from another old piece. AFAIK, custom jewelers are trustworthy, but
check them out first. Since you are in Vegas, all bets are off! G

Bob Swinney

LOL your right ! Other than who , I'm looking for ideas on what, all
I can think of is something that hangs on a necklace. Maybe I just
can't go wrong with that. The place in TX. won't do anything with the
scrap.

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:27:56 -0700, Sunworshipper
wrote:

===Posting to the watch thread got me thinking. Might as well ask ya'll
===cause the company we bought them from kind of dropped the ball.
===
===My wife (under 40) has arthritis and had to have her ring cut off and
===I never wear mine. So I was thinking that something could be made out
===of both for her that she could wear , and with only one diamond.
===
===I did a couple of pools for this one guy that is into gem cutting and
===has a centrifugal ahhh "thing" for gold. That maybe a way to go , but
===I need to know at least basically what I want before I look him up.
===
===Without getting the original company to do it I'm lost on how to make
===sure the weight and the same diamond come back... He's probably
===trustworthy , but he may not want to do it or take forever and within
===a month would be cool. She cried about it for days , but she can't
===resize the thing all the time so can't have another wedding ring.
===

We did exactly that with ours. I was never alowed to wear rings etc in
the military and over the years I just got used to not wearing
jewerly. The wife was always missplacing her's when she would remove
it to wash dishes or during those times of the month when water gets
retained etc. and she really is not all that big into rings, even more
so now that her employer has regs agaisnt wearing them or earings etc
at work. We had both of them weighed. Contracted with a custom jeweler
to make her a pendant for a necklace. He estimated what it would weigh
after it was finished, and after making it he returned the balance of
the molten down gold as a nugget along with a pendant that was pretty
much in line with his estimate.. The diamond in the ring was
incorporated into the pendant along with birthstones of the kids etc.
A neckless pendant fits all unlike a ring does so in her opinion is a
better item to hand down than an old wedding ring and besides you
should not need a ring to remind you of your marital status.
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:07:40 GMT, (Roy)
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:27:56 -0700, Sunworshipper
wrote:

===Posting to the watch thread got me thinking. Might as well ask ya'll
===cause the company we bought them from kind of dropped the ball.
===
===My wife (under 40) has arthritis and had to have her ring cut off and
===I never wear mine. So I was thinking that something could be made out
===of both for her that she could wear , and with only one diamond.
===
===I did a couple of pools for this one guy that is into gem cutting and
===has a centrifugal ahhh "thing" for gold. That maybe a way to go , but
===I need to know at least basically what I want before I look him up.
===
===Without getting the original company to do it I'm lost on how to make
===sure the weight and the same diamond come back... He's probably
===trustworthy , but he may not want to do it or take forever and within
===a month would be cool. She cried about it for days , but she can't
===resize the thing all the time so can't have another wedding ring.
===

We did exactly that with ours. I was never alowed to wear rings etc in
the military and over the years I just got used to not wearing
jewerly. The wife was always missplacing her's when she would remove
it to wash dishes or during those times of the month when water gets
retained etc. and she really is not all that big into rings, even more
so now that her employer has regs agaisnt wearing them or earings etc
at work. We had both of them weighed. Contracted with a custom jeweler
to make her a pendant for a necklace. He estimated what it would weigh
after it was finished, and after making it he returned the balance of
the molten down gold as a nugget along with a pendant that was pretty
much in line with his estimate.. The diamond in the ring was
incorporated into the pendant along with birthstones of the kids etc.
A neckless pendant fits all unlike a ring does so in her opinion is a
better item to hand down than an old wedding ring and besides you
should not need a ring to remind you of your marital status.
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.

That helps. Birth stone , hmmm when was are kid born. Then something
she likes... Wonder if the mother in law can help and keep her mouth
shut...

I can just see me in a deep **** hole for melting down the stuff
without her ahhh SWMBO permission. LOL

In article , Sunworshipper
wrote:

Posting to the watch thread got me thinking. Might as well ask ya'll
cause the company we bought them from kind of dropped the ball.

My wife (under 40) has arthritis and had to have her ring cut off and
I never wear mine. So I was thinking that something could be made out
of both for her that she could wear , and with only one diamond.

I did a couple of pools for this one guy that is into gem cutting and
has a centrifugal ahhh "thing" for gold. That maybe a way to go , but
I need to know at least basically what I want before I look him up.

Without getting the original company to do it I'm lost on how to make
sure the weight and the same diamond come back... He's probably
trustworthy , but he may not want to do it or take forever and within
a month would be cool. She cried about it for days , but she can't
resize the thing all the time so can't have another wedding ring.



There is a jeweler in my home town in Indiana who offers "Divorce"
rings.
He remelts your old wedding ring into a new ring design.

Any diamond merchant can certify your diamond and make sure you got the
same one back afterwords.

Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:

In article , Sunworshipper
wrote:

Posting to the watch thread got me thinking. Might as well ask ya'll
cause the company we bought them from kind of dropped the ball.

My wife (under 40) has arthritis and had to have her ring cut off and
I never wear mine. So I was thinking that something could be made out
of both for her that she could wear , and with only one diamond.

I did a couple of pools for this one guy that is into gem cutting and
has a centrifugal ahhh "thing" for gold. That maybe a way to go , but
I need to know at least basically what I want before I look him up.

Without getting the original company to do it I'm lost on how to make
sure the weight and the same diamond come back... He's probably
trustworthy , but he may not want to do it or take forever and within
a month would be cool. She cried about it for days , but she can't
resize the thing all the time so can't have another wedding ring.



There is a jeweler in my home town in Indiana who offers "Divorce"
rings.
He remelts your old wedding ring into a new ring design.

Any diamond merchant can certify your diamond and make sure you got the
same one back afterwords.


Speaking of keepsake diamonds...

There was an artcle in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune (Metro/State
section, page B-1) this morning about a company that will take your
loved one's ashes and convert the carbon, from the bones, into a
diamond.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4956523.html

Carats are good for her eyes?

Ken Moffett wrote:

Speaking of keepsake diamonds...

There was an artcle in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune (Metro/State
section, page B-1) this morning about a company that will take your
loved one's ashes and convert the carbon, from the bones, into a
diamond.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4956523.html


Oh, that's a *beautiful* diamond. Did your husband give that to you?

Oh, no, that IS my husband.

~D

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Ken Moffett wrote:

Speaking of keepsake diamonds...

There was an artcle in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune (Metro/State
section, page B-1) this morning about a company that will take your
loved one's ashes and convert the carbon, from the bones, into a
diamond.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4956523.html


Oh, that's a *beautiful* diamond. Did your husband give that to you?

Oh, no, that IS my husband.

~D

I have been thinking along the same lines, except using the ashes in a
ceramic vase, for the clay and glaze. Bones make a good flux for glazes.
Hey, a nice urn looks better than ashes "I always knew that *******
had a yellow streak" could be pointed out as fact

Les

uncloak
Been lurking for a few months here. This article in
the link has something I don't understand.
Diamonds are 100% carbon.
Crematory remains are 0% carbon.
How do they make a diamond out of ashes?

Or is this a scam?

Oscar

/uncloak



"Ken Moffett" wrote in message ...
snip
There was an artcle in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune (Metro/State
section, page B-1) this morning about a company that will take your
loved one's ashes and convert the carbon, from the bones, into a
diamond.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4956523.html

In article 7suZc.273319$eM2.145093@attbi_s51, Occupant says...

uncloak
Been lurking for a few months here. This article in
the link has something I don't understand.
Diamonds are 100% carbon.
Crematory remains are 0% carbon.
How do they make a diamond out of ashes?

LOL. Don't confuse the marketing folks
with facts. Makes their heads swell up
and bust.

Jim


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On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 01:12:35 GMT, "Occupant"
wrote:

uncloak
Been lurking for a few months here. This article in
the link has something I don't understand.
Diamonds are 100% carbon.
Crematory remains are 0% carbon.

What gives you that idea?

Gunner

How do they make a diamond out of ashes?

Or is this a scam?

Oscar

/uncloak



"Ken Moffett" wrote in message ...
snip
There was an artcle in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune (Metro/State
section, page B-1) this morning about a company that will take your
loved one's ashes and convert the carbon, from the bones, into a
diamond.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4956523.html




"In my humble opinion, the petty carping levied against Bush by
the Democrats proves again, it is better to have your eye plucked
out by an eagle than to be nibbled to death by ducks." - Norman
Liebmann

In article , Gunner says...

Crematory remains are 0% carbon.

What gives you that idea?

The fact that carbon and oxygen react fully at the
temperatures they burn bodies at....

Jim


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Sunworshipper wrote:

My wife (under 40) has arthritis and had to have her ring cut off and
I never wear mine. So I was thinking that something could be made out
of both for her that she could wear , and with only one diamond.

You could get a little colour match gold "solder" (or maybe TIG), repair
the saw cut to get two rings whole again, join them in a figure eight
and buy a gold chain to make a necklace from them. The fact that you
did it yourself would add to the emotional value of the piece.

Ted

In article , Ted Edwards says...

.... The fact that you
did it yourself would add to the emotional value of the piece.

Here speaks a man who *truly* understands what's important
about that ring....

Jim


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what about linking them (like a chain)? joined for ever.
Karl
"jim rozen" wrote in message
...
In article , Ted Edwards says...

.... The fact that you
did it yourself would add to the emotional value of the piece.

Here speaks a man who *truly* understands what's important
about that ring....

Jim


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Karl Vorwerk wrote:

what about linking them (like a chain)? joined for ever.
I thought of that but I didn't think it would sit nicely against her
skin (necklace). That would work for a broach though.

Ted

Ted Edwards wrote:

Sunworshipper wrote:



My wife (under 40) has arthritis and had to have her ring cut off and
I never wear mine. So I was thinking that something could be made out
of both for her that she could wear , and with only one diamond.



You could get a little colour match gold "solder" (or maybe TIG), repair
the saw cut to get two rings whole again, join them in a figure eight
and buy a gold chain to make a necklace from them. The fact that you
did it yourself would add to the emotional value of the piece.

Ted




Or make a pair of bellybutton rings? Hey, I live in California.
Everything is pierced here.

ffredd

My wife (under 40) has arthritis and had to have her ring cut off and
I never wear mine. So I was thinking that something could be made out
of both for her that she could wear , and with only one diamond.

ffredd

A compotent Jeweler can install an " Arthritic Shank " on Your
wife's ring.
Perhaps the best solution. Gold reclamed from old rings can be full of
undesireable alloys for casting. This is why it is often melted into a
nugget.

If you are afrade of having your diamonds switched, have them surveyed
or apparised. There will be an additional charge for this, but you can
often get a discount from your insurance co. The apparisal will be
used to determin the replacement value of the new ring.

I would recomend, from the writen discription given, that you have an
Arthritic shank installed on your wife's ring and a Nugget pendent
made of Your old wedding band for her.

I have been a Journeyman Millwright for 28 yrs with other Journeyman
trade certifications .
I retired 5 yrs ago ( bad back ) to become a Certified Jeweler and
Gemologist after 2 1/2 yrs of fulltime schooling.
I will recomend the " rec. crafts. Jewelry site on the Google Groups.
It is well moderated and has several jewelers more experienced than I
contributing.

Robb GGS and JA certified.

On 3 Sep 2004 13:00:46 -0700, (ROBB) wrote:

My wife (under 40) has arthritis and had to have her ring cut off and
I never wear mine. So I was thinking that something could be made out
of both for her that she could wear , and with only one diamond.

ffredd

A compotent Jeweler can install an " Arthritic Shank " on Your
wife's ring.

Never heard of one, I'll have to check it out. The rings are made to
look weaved , but if I or we changed the design to accommodate an
Arthritic Shank.

I called one promising place , but they want to make an appointment
which I always have problems with. For the guy with the pool I have
to be at the store to remind the owner while he's going through old
plans.

Seems like I have to work on every Labor Day weekend. At least I don't
have to go camping at 11,000 feet !

Perhaps the best solution. Gold reclamed from old rings can be full of
undesireable alloys for casting. This is why it is often melted into a
nugget.

If you are afrade of having your diamonds switched, have them surveyed
or apparised. There will be an additional charge for this, but you can
often get a discount from your insurance co. The apparisal will be
used to determin the replacement value of the new ring.

I would recomend, from the writen discription given, that you have an
Arthritic shank installed on your wife's ring and a Nugget pendent
made of Your old wedding band for her.

I have been a Journeyman Millwright for 28 yrs with other Journeyman
trade certifications .
I retired 5 yrs ago ( bad back ) to become a Certified Jeweler and
Gemologist after 2 1/2 yrs of fulltime schooling.
I will recomend the " rec. crafts. Jewelry site on the Google Groups.
It is well moderated and has several jewelers more experienced than I
contributing.

Robb GGS and JA certified.

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 13:53:31 -0700, Sunworshipper
calmly ranted:

Seems like I have to work on every Labor Day weekend.

Pobrecito!


At least I don't have to go camping at 11,000 feet !

When I went over to NM to scout for new places to move
to and live ('02, ABQ was a possiblity), I stopped in and
harassed Lew Hartswick. He and his wife are great folks
and very hospitable, they even put me up for the night
and made a king's breakfast for me the next morning. I
stopped at the Sandia Tramway and went up for the sights.
At the top, Sandia Peak is 10,678', I hiked around for
nearly an hour. On the way down, people were talking about
the altitude and I realized that I wasn't bothered by it
at all. I guess I'm lucky in that respect.


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