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Welding machine, point and squeeze the trigger?
As seen on YouTube...
https://youtu.be/vBvb8ltntR8 Point and squeeze the trigger. That's my kind of welding. One comment calls it a "powertig welder". Lots of money? Just curious. |
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Welding machine, point and squeeze the trigger?
On 7/19/2019 3:20 AM, John Doe wrote:
As seen on YouTube... https://youtu.be/vBvb8ltntR8 .... "Homemade Angle Grinder Stand" |
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Welding machine, point and squeeze the trigger?
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 08:50:50 -0400
Bob Engelhardt wrote: On 7/19/2019 3:20 AM, John Doe wrote: As seen on YouTube... https://youtu.be/vBvb8ltntR8 ... "Homemade Angle Grinder Stand" It's just a MIG welder per seeing the gun early on. Didn't watch the rest. You still need to know what you're doing with one. They don't just squirt welds out like a caulk gun. There's the old, famous Gunner spare tire mount story if one thinks it is so easy You can buy a cheap one from HF for $200 or buy a commercial machine from maybe $1500 and up... -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI |
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Welding machine, point and squeeze the trigger?
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:11:18 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote: On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 08:50:50 -0400 Bob Engelhardt wrote: On 7/19/2019 3:20 AM, John Doe wrote: As seen on YouTube... https://youtu.be/vBvb8ltntR8 ... "Homemade Angle Grinder Stand" It's just a MIG welder per seeing the gun early on. Didn't watch the rest. You still need to know what you're doing with one. They don't just squirt welds out like a caulk gun. There's the old, famous Gunner spare tire mount story if one thinks it is so easy You can buy a cheap one from HF for $200 or buy a commercial machine from maybe $1500 and up... Forget MIG - likely just flux-core - and I can buy a 130 amp FDS flux core welder for $128 CANADIAN - thats a Benjamin for you Americans. |
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Welding machine, point and squeeze the trigger?
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:50:48 -0400
Clare Snyder wrote: Forget MIG - likely just flux-core - and I can buy a 130 amp FDS flux core welder for $128 CANADIAN - thats a Benjamin for you Americans. ??? My MIG is a Millermatic 200. Bought new maybe 20 years ago for around $1800. With solid .035 wire and argon 75/25 mix it can easily weld 3/8 inch material in one pass. Probably not the best way to do most jobs though. These are serious machines for repair and production work when you get into the more expensive, well built units... -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI |
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Welding machine, point and squeeze the trigger?
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:29:03 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote: On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:50:48 -0400 Clare Snyder wrote: Forget MIG - likely just flux-core - and I can buy a 130 amp FDS flux core welder for $128 CANADIAN - thats a Benjamin for you Americans. ??? My MIG is a Millermatic 200. Bought new maybe 20 years ago for around $1800. With solid .035 wire and argon 75/25 mix it can easily weld 3/8 inch material in one pass. Probably not the best way to do most jobs though. These are serious machines for repair and production work when you get into the more expensive, well built units... Not disputing that at all - whether used in sputter (pulsed or globular spray) or short circuit mode. I'm still partial to SMAW (stick) welding when I need to deposit lots of metal or get deep penetration. The AC/DC tombstone is my personal welding machine of choice For fine work TIG is more easily controlled - and I am more likely to break out the acetylene torch or take it to one of 2 friends who are very proficient with the TIG. Nothing wrong with a GOOD MIG weld -but I've never made a good one - and it is too easy to make a butt ugly weld that holds, or a good looking (to the untrained eye) weld that is no good at all. Been playing with a "cobra" or "henrob" torch recently - gives control approaching TIG for fine work. |
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Welding machine, point and squeeze the trigger?
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:37:48 -0400
Clare Snyder wrote: snip I'm still partial to SMAW (stick) welding when I need to deposit lots of metal or get deep penetration. The AC/DC tombstone is my personal welding machine of choice For fine work TIG is more easily controlled - and I am more likely to break out the acetylene torch or take it to one of 2 friends who are very proficient with the TIG. Nothing wrong with a GOOD MIG weld -but I've never made a good one - and it is too easy to make a butt ugly weld that holds, or a good looking (to the untrained eye) weld that is no good at all. I had the MIG for quite a few years before getting an old stick machine. Wish I could have watched stuff like Jody puts on youtube back when I was starting out. We tend to trust/use what we have worked with the most Been playing with a "cobra" or "henrob" torch recently - gives control approaching TIG for fine work. Have thought for some time now that a flame control that worked like the TIG foot pedal would be extremely helpful for acy/oxy torches. Probably one out there but I'm not going to pony up for it nowadays... -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI |
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Welding machine, point and squeeze the trigger?
"Leon Fisk" wrote in message
... On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 08:50:50 -0400 Bob Engelhardt wrote: On 7/19/2019 3:20 AM, John Doe wrote: As seen on YouTube... https://youtu.be/vBvb8ltntR8 ... "Homemade Angle Grinder Stand" It's just a MIG welder per seeing the gun early on. Didn't watch the rest. You still need to know what you're doing with one. They don't just squirt welds out like a caulk gun. There's the old, famous Gunner spare tire mount story if one thinks it is so easy You can buy a cheap one from HF for $200 or buy a commercial machine from maybe $1500 and up... -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI What he said. Also, practice until your weld joints consistently withstand being bent, don't trust their appearance. |
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"Clare Snyder" wrote in message
... ... I'm still partial to SMAW (stick) welding when I need to deposit lots of metal or get deep penetration. The AC/DC tombstone is my personal welding machine of choice For fine work TIG is more easily controlled - and I am more likely to break out the acetylene torch or take it to one of 2 friends who are very proficient with the TIG. Nothing wrong with a GOOD MIG weld -but I've never made a good one - and it is too easy to make a butt ugly weld that holds, or a good looking (to the untrained eye) weld that is no good at all. Been playing with a "cobra" or "henrob" torch recently - gives control approaching TIG for fine work. What's the dividing line where stick or acetylene are equally good? |
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Welding machine, point and squeeze the trigger?
Bob Engelhardt wrote:
John Doe wrote: As seen on YouTube... https://youtu.be/vBvb8ltntR8 "Homemade Angle Grinder Stand" Yeah. And? He uses a welder to make it. You need some help playing the video??? |
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Welding machine, point and squeeze the trigger?
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:11:18 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote: On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 08:50:50 -0400 Bob Engelhardt wrote: On 7/19/2019 3:20 AM, John Doe wrote: As seen on YouTube... https://youtu.be/vBvb8ltntR8 ... "Homemade Angle Grinder Stand" It's just a MIG welder per seeing the gun early on. Didn't watch the rest. You still need to know what you're doing with one. They don't just squirt welds out like a caulk gun. There's the old, famous Gunner spare tire mount story if one thinks it is so easy Thanks..Id hoped that had been long forgotten...sigh...(blush) You can buy a cheap one from HF for $200 or buy a commercial machine from maybe $1500 and up... Check Craigslist in your area for a MIG welder. They can be had for $100 and up. Flux core is the cheapest. Gas shielded is the best..but can be expensive to set up. CO2 works fine as a shielding gas for most welding __ "Poor widdle Wudy...mentally ill, lies constantly, doesnt know who he is, or even what gender "he" is. No more pathetic creature has ever walked the earth. But...he is locked into a mental hospital for the safety of the public. Which is a very good thing." Asun rauhassa, valmistaudun sotaan. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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