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Do your friends think that your metalworking hobby is a boring old thing for phlegmatic, antiquarian farts? If so, let them watch this loon build a pulse jet, hydroforming it with an ordinary pressure washer, and then setting his truck on fire -- sort of -- with the jet.

This is not your garden-variety metalworker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsg5pQimWI

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Do your friends think that your metalworking hobby is a boring old thing for phlegmatic, antiquarian farts? If so, let them watch this loon build a pulse jet, hydroforming it with an ordinary pressure washer, and then setting his truck on fire -- sort of -- with the jet.

This is not your garden-variety metalworker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsg5pQimWI

Cool! But damn, I was feeling good about building a fancy aluminum
cell phone holder. I need to up my game with propulsion or something.

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On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 10:43:47 AM UTC-4, Month of May wrote:
On Mon, 22 May 2017 07:33:50 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Do your friends think that your metalworking hobby is a boring old thing for phlegmatic, antiquarian farts? If so, let them watch this loon build a pulse jet, hydroforming it with an ordinary pressure washer, and then setting his truck on fire -- sort of -- with the jet.

This is not your garden-variety metalworker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsg5pQimWI

Cool! But damn, I was feeling good about building a fancy aluminum
cell phone holder. I need to up my game with propulsion or something.


We need to be more flamboyant. The guy in that video is beyond flamboyant. He was almost flambé!

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On Mon, 22 May 2017 07:33:50 -0700, edhuntress2 wrote:

Do your friends think that your metalworking hobby is a boring old thing
for phlegmatic, antiquarian farts? If so, let them watch this loon build
a pulse jet, hydroforming it with an ordinary pressure washer, and then
setting his truck on fire -- sort of -- with the jet.

This is not your garden-variety metalworker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsg5pQimWI


That loon has a series of videos. As near as I can tell he's a good
metalworker, and the loonyness is a way to sell videos.

I've seen other, more serious, applications of hydroforming with a
pressure washer on YouTube. It looks like a solid technique for making
some curved surfaces. In fact, Colin (the loon) has a preliminary video
to that where he gets the washer and experiments with shapes.

Ferinstance, I think you could make a nice motorcycle fender starting
with a banana-shaped flat, puffing it up, and then cutting off the inner
part of the resulting balloon.

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On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 11:06:27 AM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Mon, 22 May 2017 07:33:50 -0700, edhuntress2 wrote:

Do your friends think that your metalworking hobby is a boring old thing
for phlegmatic, antiquarian farts? If so, let them watch this loon build
a pulse jet, hydroforming it with an ordinary pressure washer, and then
setting his truck on fire -- sort of -- with the jet.

This is not your garden-variety metalworker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsg5pQimWI


That loon has a series of videos. As near as I can tell he's a good
metalworker, and the loonyness is a way to sell videos.

I've seen other, more serious, applications of hydroforming with a
pressure washer on YouTube. It looks like a solid technique for making
some curved surfaces. In fact, Colin (the loon) has a preliminary video
to that where he gets the washer and experiments with shapes.

Ferinstance, I think you could make a nice motorcycle fender starting
with a banana-shaped flat, puffing it up, and then cutting off the inner
part of the resulting balloon.

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Yes. To get serious about it, that method is a real eye-opener. Just wear good safety glasses to protect those open eyes. g

I never thought about this before. I have been interested in hydroforming (I've written articles about it), but the thought of machining my own force multiplier kept it in the "too much time to do it" category.

I'm going to look at the related videos and see what's being done.

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On Mon, 22 May 2017 08:14:13 -0700, edhuntress2 wrote:

On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 11:06:27 AM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Mon, 22 May 2017 07:33:50 -0700, edhuntress2 wrote:

Do your friends think that your metalworking hobby is a boring old
thing for phlegmatic, antiquarian farts? If so, let them watch this
loon build a pulse jet, hydroforming it with an ordinary pressure
washer, and then setting his truck on fire -- sort of -- with the
jet.

This is not your garden-variety metalworker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsg5pQimWI


That loon has a series of videos. As near as I can tell he's a good
metalworker, and the loonyness is a way to sell videos.

I've seen other, more serious, applications of hydroforming with a
pressure washer on YouTube. It looks like a solid technique for making
some curved surfaces. In fact, Colin (the loon) has a preliminary
video to that where he gets the washer and experiments with shapes.

Ferinstance, I think you could make a nice motorcycle fender starting
with a banana-shaped flat, puffing it up, and then cutting off the
inner part of the resulting balloon.

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Yes. To get serious about it, that method is a real eye-opener. Just
wear good safety glasses to protect those open eyes. g

I never thought about this before. I have been interested in
hydroforming (I've written articles about it), but the thought of
machining my own force multiplier kept it in the "too much time to do
it" category.

I'm going to look at the related videos and see what's being done.


A search on "pressure washer hydroforming" on YouTube gets a slew of
results.

Dunno if it'll still pop up, but someone made a really nice fuel tank for
a 1910-style motorcycle with one of them.

Given that the usual technique is to weld two flat pieces together, I
think you need to be able to put down a _really smooth_ bead. Hicups on
the weld will translate into nasties in the final part.

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Do your friends think that your metalworking hobby is a boring old thing for
phlegmatic, antiquarian farts? If so, let them watch this loon build a pulse
jet, hydroforming it with an ordinary pressure washer, and then setting his
truck on fire -- sort of -- with the jet.

This is not your garden-variety metalworker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsg5pQimWI

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I noticed he is wearing a neck tie while working.

Wonder if he owns a lathe?

Best Regards
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Do your friends think that your metalworking hobby is a boring old thing for
phlegmatic, antiquarian farts? If so, let them watch this loon build a pulse
jet, hydroforming it with an ordinary pressure washer, and then setting his
truck on fire -- sort of -- with the jet.

This is not your garden-variety metalworker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsg5pQimWI

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I noticed he is wearing a neck tie while working.

Wonder if he owns a lathe?

Best Regards
Tom.


If so, I hope he knows to tuck it inside his shirt. Those old machining photos from the 1920s and '30s, with photos of operators with their ties tucked in, always gave me the creeps.

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On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 12:36:59 PM UTC-4, Jon Elson wrote:
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Do your friends think that your metalworking hobby is a boring old thing
for phlegmatic, antiquarian farts? If so, let them watch this loon build a
pulse jet, hydroforming it with an ordinary pressure washer, and then
setting his truck on fire -- sort of -- with the jet.

This is not your garden-variety metalworker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsg5pQimWI

One thing is clear. He is a GOOD welder. Besides a few pinholes, the welds
on that thing held through some serious torture.

Jon


That was my thought, too, although I don't TIG weld and I don't know what would be reasonable.

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That was my thought, too, although I don't TIG weld and I don't know what
would be reasonable.

I DO TIG weld, but I'm quite sure my skills are NOT up to that level. I
definitely can put stuff together, but those welds held despite severe
stress.

Jon

Greetings Jon,
Your welds may be better than you think strength wise. If you are
getting 100% penetration with no voids and no contamination of the
weld or HAZ then I'll be your welds are good enough. I sometimes TIG
weld 3/4" bi-metal bandsaw blades in my shop. The beads are of course
always proud of the surface and after grinding flush I see no porosity
in my welds and the welds always hold. I do do a little TIG welding
for money in my shop but I only weld about a few hours a month on
average. Maybe all you need to do is get better at making pretty
welds.
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On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 11:06:27 AM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Mon, 22 May 2017 07:33:50 -0700, edhuntress2 wrote:

Do your friends think that your metalworking hobby is a boring
old thing for phlegmatic, antiquarian farts? If so, let them
watch this loon build a pulse jet, hydroforming it with an
ordinary pressure washer, and then setting his truck on fire --
sort of -- with the jet.

This is not your garden-variety metalworker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsg5pQimWI
That loon has a series of videos. As near as I can tell he's a
good metalworker, and the loonyness is a way to sell videos.

I've seen other, more serious, applications of hydroforming with a
pressure washer on YouTube. It looks like a solid technique for
making some curved surfaces. In fact, Colin (the loon) has a
preliminary video to that where he gets the washer and experiments
with shapes.

Ferinstance, I think you could make a nice motorcycle fender
starting with a banana-shaped flat, puffing it up, and then cutting
off the inner part of the resulting balloon.

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Yes. To get serious about it, that method is a real eye-opener. Just
wear good safety glasses to protect those open eyes. g

I never thought about this before. I have been interested in
hydroforming (I've written articles about it), but the thought of
machining my own force multiplier kept it in the "too much time to do
it" category.

I'm going to look at the related videos and see what's being done.


It works very well. I've made a few items using this method. Steel is
much easier to work with. Aluminum is a PIA because you need to be 100%
sure that everything is dead soft and you need to watch the pressures or
you just teat things apart...

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On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 6:04:21 PM UTC-4, Steve W. wrote:
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On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 11:06:27 AM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Mon, 22 May 2017 07:33:50 -0700, edhuntress2 wrote:

Do your friends think that your metalworking hobby is a boring
old thing for phlegmatic, antiquarian farts? If so, let them
watch this loon build a pulse jet, hydroforming it with an
ordinary pressure washer, and then setting his truck on fire --
sort of -- with the jet.

This is not your garden-variety metalworker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsg5pQimWI
That loon has a series of videos. As near as I can tell he's a
good metalworker, and the loonyness is a way to sell videos.

I've seen other, more serious, applications of hydroforming with a
pressure washer on YouTube. It looks like a solid technique for
making some curved surfaces. In fact, Colin (the loon) has a
preliminary video to that where he gets the washer and experiments
with shapes.

Ferinstance, I think you could make a nice motorcycle fender
starting with a banana-shaped flat, puffing it up, and then cutting
off the inner part of the resulting balloon.

--

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Yes. To get serious about it, that method is a real eye-opener. Just
wear good safety glasses to protect those open eyes. g

I never thought about this before. I have been interested in
hydroforming (I've written articles about it), but the thought of
machining my own force multiplier kept it in the "too much time to do
it" category.

I'm going to look at the related videos and see what's being done.


It works very well. I've made a few items using this method. Steel is
much easier to work with. Aluminum is a PIA because you need to be 100%
sure that everything is dead soft and you need to watch the pressures or
you just teat things apart...

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That's really interesting. I wouldn't have guessed that it would work so well.

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On 5/23/2017 8:02 PM, wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 4:11:27 PM UTC-4, tyre biter wrote:
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What is it you think you're doing here, biter? Are you planning to send out a hit squad to kill the people at the Foot Locker?


Ut oh...crazy eddy is on the rag now, LOL!@


You pathetic little coward, hiding behind a nym, and you think you're revealing something that is going to get me upset. You're looking at the situation through the eyes of a coward -- your eyes.

Through mine, you look like a pathetic, cowardly weasel, jerking off in a corner. You also don't know what you're doing with IP numbers.

First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.


Huntress, Edward A
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22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.


Wrong. It was built in 1924.



Of course, you and your coward buddies will do nothing about it. Have a nice day, slimeball.


Ut oh...crazy eddy is on the rag now, LOL!@


What happened to the Footlocker in Newark? You missed by around 20 miles, weasel.

Now, go back to jerking off, since you obviously have nothing else to do, you nym-shifting, weaselly coward.

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On 5/23/2017 8:02 PM,
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On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 4:11:27 PM UTC-4, tyre biter wrote:
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That was my thought, too



IP 24.185.56.152

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What is it you think you're doing here, biter? Are you planning to send out a hit squad to kill the people at the Foot Locker?


Ut oh...crazy eddy is on the rag now, LOL!@


You pathetic little coward, hiding behind a nym, and you think you're revealing something that is going to get me upset. You're looking at the situation through the eyes of a coward -- your eyes.

Through mine, you look like a pathetic, cowardly weasel, jerking off in a corner. You also don't know what you're doing with IP numbers.

First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.


Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.


Wrong. It was built in 1924.


VBG




Of course, you and your coward buddies will do nothing about it. Have a nice day, slimeball.


Ut oh...crazy eddy is on the rag now, LOL!@


What happened to the Footlocker in Newark?


Corprorate still hasn't shut off your posting?

Wait for it...

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On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 1:33:20 PM UTC-4, tyre biter wrote:
On 5/24/2017 10:34 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 12:13:45 PM UTC-4, tyre biter wrote:
On 5/23/2017 8:02 PM,
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On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 4:11:27 PM UTC-4, tyre biter wrote:
On 5/22/2017 10:42 AM,
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That was my thought, too



IP 24.185.56.152

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Foot Locker

What is it you think you're doing here, biter? Are you planning to send out a hit squad to kill the people at the Foot Locker?

Ut oh...crazy eddy is on the rag now, LOL!@


You pathetic little coward, hiding behind a nym, and you think you're revealing something that is going to get me upset. You're looking at the situation through the eyes of a coward -- your eyes.

Through mine, you look like a pathetic, cowardly weasel, jerking off in a corner. You also don't know what you're doing with IP numbers.

First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.


Wrong. It was built in 1924.


VBG Gawd. Biter grinning is an ugly thought.






Of course, you and your coward buddies will do nothing about it. Have a nice day, slimeball.

Ut oh...crazy eddy is on the rag now, LOL!@


What happened to the Footlocker in Newark?


Corprorate still hasn't shut off your posting?

Wait for it...


I'm really sweating that one. g

Biter, how did you get to be such a weaselly coward? Are you the best your parents could do?

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Corprorate still hasn't shut off your posting?

Wait for it...

I'm really sweating that one.


Oh Eddy....BOOO!
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On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:10:55 PM UTC-4, tyre biter wrote:

A couple of days ago when I was checking out what was available at the scrap yard, I spotted a bunch of flourescent ballasts along with some ballasts for HPS lamps. The ones for the HPS were in nice extruded aluminum cases about 3 inches by 4 inches by about 12 inches. I just wanted the cases and not the electronics inside. So asked the owner if I could take ten home and take them apart there. Then bring everything back and we would settle up. That was fine with him, so took ten home. The end caps were secured by tork screws, no big deal. But the potting was a big deal. There were two slightly different models. It took me about 15 minutes per ballast to get the potting and electronics out. Glad I did not take more. Will take everything back tomorrow.

Does anyone know exacty what the potting is? It seems like it might be micro crystalline wax. Brown and pretty hard.

Dan

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On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:10:55 PM UTC-4, tyre biter wrote:

A couple of days ago when I was checking out what was available at the scrap yard, I spotted a bunch of flourescent ballasts along with some ballasts for HPS lamps. The ones for the HPS were in nice extruded aluminum cases about 3 inches by 4 inches by about 12 inches. I just wanted the cases and not the electronics inside. So asked the owner if I could take ten home and take them apart there. Then bring everything back and we would settle up. That was fine with him, so took ten home. The end caps were secured by tork screws, no big deal. But the potting was a big deal. There were two slightly different models. It took me about 15 minutes per ballast to get the potting and electronics out. Glad I did not take more. Will take everything back tomorrow.

Does anyone know exacty what the potting is? It seems like it might be micro crystalline wax. Brown and pretty hard.


God I hate that method. A simple repair is turned into an impossible
project...

I've seen lots of stuff used but never tried figuring out what it
really was. Today's internet access helps.... There is a Wiki page. It
is brief but has links to other possible sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potting_(electronics)

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First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.


Huntress, Edward A
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Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.


1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.


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On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.


Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.


1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.


That's why I'm comfortably retired and you're a deadbeat who can't even pay his property taxes.

However, if the stroke hadn't eaten what was left of your brain, you'd remember that I said many times that we live in a tiny house. Not actually that tiny, however. They just took the dimensions of the foundation, before rear additions, and multiplied it by two, for two stories.

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On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.


1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.


That's why I'm comfortably retired


Who says Im not retired? Ive not worked much my entire life! My
lifestyle is almost as good as people on fixed income but still
provides all the excitement enjoyed by starving artists...VBG

and you're a deadbeat who can't even pay his property taxes.


I choose to not pay them...shrug. Im no different than most of my
friends here that choose to not pay things visa versa child support
etc.

However, if the stroke hadn't eaten what was left of your brain,


Its true I dont have quite as much as I used to but I was recently
tested and certified to still have 159 - 162 of my original 165 IQ.
Which is more than enough to anililte all Leftists and most scientists
and scolars... shrug. The proof is in my resume.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wieber-00bb3660 Those of us that
know how to maintain our computers in a hitened state of readiness can
see sites like that one.

you'd remember that I said many times that we live in a tiny house. Not actually that tiny, however. They just took the dimensions of the foundation, before rear additions, and multiplied it by two, for two stories.


Laugh laugh. You fell for the trap of owning your own home. Sucks to
be someone too stupid to know that renting is smarter.
http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/...in-retirement/

Point set match, indeed sir. Anything youd like to add before your
buffonish life is snuffed out in the great cull? Hmmmm? Use all the
whitespace you like.

Gunner, not in the mood today to pretend to be helpless.

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On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 9:59:00 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.

1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.


That's why I'm comfortably retired


Who says Im not retired? Ive not worked much my entire life! My
lifestyle is almost as good as people on fixed income but still
provides all the excitement enjoyed by starving artists...VBG

and you're a deadbeat who can't even pay his property taxes.


I choose to not pay them...shrug. Im no different than most of my
friends here that choose to not pay things visa versa child support
etc.

However, if the stroke hadn't eaten what was left of your brain,


Its true I dont have quite as much as I used to but I was recently
tested and certified to still have 159 - 162 of my original 165 IQ.
Which is more than enough to anililte all Leftists and most scientists
and scolars... shrug. The proof is in my resume.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wieber-00bb3660 Those of us that
know how to maintain our computers in a hitened state of readiness can
see sites like that one.

you'd remember that I said many times that we live in a tiny house. Not actually that tiny, however. They just took the dimensions of the foundation, before rear additions, and multiplied it by two, for two stories.


Laugh laugh. You fell for the trap of owning your own home. Sucks to
be someone too stupid to know that renting is smarter.
http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/...in-retirement/

Point set match, indeed sir. Anything youd like to add before your
buffonish life is snuffed out in the great cull? Hmmmm? Use all the
whitespace you like.

Gunner, not in the mood today to pretend to be helpless.

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That's a pretty good "Gunner," but you left out his fleet of yachts. d8-)

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wrote on 5/28/2017 10:29 AM:
On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 9:59:00 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.

1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.

That's why I'm comfortably retired


Who says Im not retired? Ive not worked much my entire life! My
lifestyle is almost as good as people on fixed income but still
provides all the excitement enjoyed by starving artists...VBG

and you're a deadbeat who can't even pay his property taxes.


I choose to not pay them...shrug. Im no different than most of my
friends here that choose to not pay things visa versa child support
etc.

However, if the stroke hadn't eaten what was left of your brain,


Its true I dont have quite as much as I used to but I was recently
tested and certified to still have 159 - 162 of my original 165 IQ.
Which is more than enough to anililte all Leftists and most scientists
and scolars... shrug. The proof is in my resume.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wieber-00bb3660 Those of us that
know how to maintain our computers in a hitened state of readiness can
see sites like that one.

you'd remember that I said many times that we live in a tiny house. Not actually that tiny, however. They just took the dimensions of the foundation, before rear additions, and multiplied it by two, for two stories.


Laugh laugh. You fell for the trap of owning your own home. Sucks to
be someone too stupid to know that renting is smarter.
http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/...in-retirement/

Point set match, indeed sir. Anything youd like to add before your
buffonish life is snuffed out in the great cull? Hmmmm? Use all the
whitespace you like.

Gunner, not in the mood today to pretend to be helpless.

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That's a pretty good "Gunner," but you left out his fleet of yachts. d8-)


Yachts in a desert? What kind of idiot would do that? I am sure Gummer
makes as much money as those Eskimos selling Hawaiin shirt in the Arctic
Circle.




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On 5/27/2017 7:56 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.


Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.


1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.


....well he might not be completely house-broken ya know...
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On 5/28/2017 8:29 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 9:59:00 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.

1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.

That's why I'm comfortably retired


Who says Im not retired? Ive not worked much my entire life! My
lifestyle is almost as good as people on fixed income but still
provides all the excitement enjoyed by starving artists...VBG

and you're a deadbeat who can't even pay his property taxes.


I choose to not pay them...shrug. Im no different than most of my
friends here that choose to not pay things visa versa child support
etc.

However, if the stroke hadn't eaten what was left of your brain,


Its true I dont have quite as much as I used to but I was recently
tested and certified to still have 159 - 162 of my original 165 IQ.
Which is more than enough to anililte all Leftists and most scientists
and scolars... shrug. The proof is in my resume.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wieber-00bb3660 Those of us that
know how to maintain our computers in a hitened state of readiness can
see sites like that one.

you'd remember that I said many times that we live in a tiny house. Not actually that tiny, however. They just took the dimensions of the foundation, before rear additions, and multiplied it by two, for two stories.


Laugh laugh. You fell for the trap of owning your own home. Sucks to
be someone too stupid to know that renting is smarter.
http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/...in-retirement/

Point set match, indeed sir. Anything youd like to add before your
buffonish life is snuffed out in the great cull? Hmmmm? Use all the
whitespace you like.

Gunner, not in the mood today to pretend to be helpless.

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That's a pretty good "Gunner," but you left out his fleet of yachts. d8-)


The only "yachts" in Noo Joisey are rancid potato skins manned by
Eyetalian sewer rats, right Crazy Eddiy?


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On Sat, 27 May 2017 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.

1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.


That's why I'm comfortably retired


Who says Im not retired? Ive not worked much my entire life! My


Tsk tsk tsk....you know this really doesnt work anymore. Are you that
obsessive about "haunting" me that you simply dont understand that it
doesnt work, and only makes you look like an utter retard?

Gags like this only work a few times....you are going on about 6
months..and it simply doesnt work anymore. But hey...if you want to
show the folks just how mentally ill you actually are...have at it.
Its funny to watch and gives me something to poke you with a stick
over.

Gunner

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On Sun, 28 May 2017 12:02:05 -0400, JolDc?? ?????? ? ??????? ??zsbBL
wrote:

wrote on 5/28/2017 10:29 AM:
On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 9:59:00 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.

1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.

That's why I'm comfortably retired

Who says Im not retired? Ive not worked much my entire life! My
lifestyle is almost as good as people on fixed income but still
provides all the excitement enjoyed by starving artists...VBG

and you're a deadbeat who can't even pay his property taxes.

I choose to not pay them...shrug. Im no different than most of my
friends here that choose to not pay things visa versa child support
etc.

However, if the stroke hadn't eaten what was left of your brain,

Its true I dont have quite as much as I used to but I was recently
tested and certified to still have 159 - 162 of my original 165 IQ.
Which is more than enough to anililte all Leftists and most scientists
and scolars... shrug. The proof is in my resume.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wieber-00bb3660 Those of us that
know how to maintain our computers in a hitened state of readiness can
see sites like that one.

you'd remember that I said many times that we live in a tiny house. Not actually that tiny, however. They just took the dimensions of the foundation, before rear additions, and multiplied it by two, for two stories.

Laugh laugh. You fell for the trap of owning your own home. Sucks to
be someone too stupid to know that renting is smarter.
http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/...in-retirement/

Point set match, indeed sir. Anything youd like to add before your
buffonish life is snuffed out in the great cull? Hmmmm? Use all the
whitespace you like.

Gunner, not in the mood today to pretend to be helpless.

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That's a pretty good "Gunner," but you left out his fleet of yachts. d8-)


Yachts in a desert? What kind of idiot would do that? I am sure Gummer
makes as much money as those Eskimos selling Hawaiin shirt in the Arctic
Circle.



Yachts? Yachts are typically over 30' long..usually in the 40' and
longer class. My biggest boat is only 25' long

https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9

https://goo.gl/photos/SSUkWWxmr6BYJohp9

With this sad ol girl..I have 7.

https://goo.gl/photos/t8ETr7jyDpT8ArP98

Got several of them up for sale btw. The most expensive one is the
Ensenada 20, at $1500 with outboard, the Venture 224 is $1000, no
outboard and the Oday Daysailer...hummm...$600-800, depending on who
wants it and where they live.


Ill turn the Newport Venture loose for about $500 or so. Has all the
gear and parts..but needs to be reassembled and the cockpit floor
glassed back in.

Btw...I dont do it for money. I do it because I enjoy restoring them,
and then sailing them. Hell..Ive given 3 boats away that Id restored.
Folks sail em several times a month.

The Canukistani has no comprehension of that concept..he is
universally worthless in all aspects.


Gunner
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Bogus Gunner Alert!

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On 5/28/2017 2:10 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2017 12:02:05 -0400, JolDc?? ?????? ? ??????? ??zsbBL
wrote:

wrote on 5/28/2017 10:29 AM:
On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 9:59:00 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.

1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.

That's why I'm comfortably retired

Who says Im not retired? Ive not worked much my entire life! My
lifestyle is almost as good as people on fixed income but still
provides all the excitement enjoyed by starving artists...VBG

and you're a deadbeat who can't even pay his property taxes.

I choose to not pay them...shrug. Im no different than most of my
friends here that choose to not pay things visa versa child support
etc.

However, if the stroke hadn't eaten what was left of your brain,

Its true I dont have quite as much as I used to but I was recently
tested and certified to still have 159 - 162 of my original 165 IQ.
Which is more than enough to anililte all Leftists and most scientists
and scolars... shrug. The proof is in my resume.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wieber-00bb3660 Those of us that
know how to maintain our computers in a hitened state of readiness can
see sites like that one.

you'd remember that I said many times that we live in a tiny house. Not actually that tiny, however. They just took the dimensions of the foundation, before rear additions, and multiplied it by two, for two stories.

Laugh laugh. You fell for the trap of owning your own home. Sucks to
be someone too stupid to know that renting is smarter.
http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/...in-retirement/

Point set match, indeed sir. Anything youd like to add before your
buffonish life is snuffed out in the great cull? Hmmmm? Use all the
whitespace you like.

Gunner, not in the mood today to pretend to be helpless.

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That's a pretty good "Gunner," but you left out his fleet of yachts. d8-)


Yachts in a desert? What kind of idiot would do that? I am sure Gummer
makes as much money as those Eskimos selling Hawaiin shirt in the Arctic
Circle.



Yachts? Yachts are typically over 30' long..usually in the 40' and
longer class. My biggest boat is only 25' long

https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9

https://goo.gl/photos/SSUkWWxmr6BYJohp9

With this sad ol girl..I have 7.

https://goo.gl/photos/t8ETr7jyDpT8ArP98

Got several of them up for sale btw. The most expensive one is the
Ensenada 20, at $1500 with outboard, the Venture 224 is $1000, no
outboard and the Oday Daysailer...hummm...$600-800, depending on who
wants it and where they live.


Ill turn the Newport Venture loose for about $500 or so. Has all the
gear and parts..but needs to be reassembled and the cockpit floor
glassed back in.

Btw...I dont do it for money. I do it because I enjoy restoring them,
and then sailing them. Hell..Ive given 3 boats away that Id restored.
Folks sail em several times a month.

The Canukistani has no comprehension of that concept..he is
universally worthless in all aspects.


Short sailing season up in North America's largest walk-in cooler -
maybe July and a few weeks of August...

Gunner


What can you tell us about Windancer II?

Looks to be a Hobie Cat, yes?

Those are a kick to hike out on.
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 14:45:08 -0600, tyre biter wrote:

On 5/28/2017 2:10 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2017 12:02:05 -0400, JolDc?? ?????? ? ??????? ??zsbBL
wrote:

wrote on 5/28/2017 10:29 AM:
On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 9:59:00 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.

1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.

That's why I'm comfortably retired

Who says Im not retired? Ive not worked much my entire life! My
lifestyle is almost as good as people on fixed income but still
provides all the excitement enjoyed by starving artists...VBG

and you're a deadbeat who can't even pay his property taxes.

I choose to not pay them...shrug. Im no different than most of my
friends here that choose to not pay things visa versa child support
etc.

However, if the stroke hadn't eaten what was left of your brain,

Its true I dont have quite as much as I used to but I was recently
tested and certified to still have 159 - 162 of my original 165 IQ.
Which is more than enough to anililte all Leftists and most scientists
and scolars... shrug. The proof is in my resume.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wieber-00bb3660 Those of us that
know how to maintain our computers in a hitened state of readiness can
see sites like that one.

you'd remember that I said many times that we live in a tiny house. Not actually that tiny, however. They just took the dimensions of the foundation, before rear additions, and multiplied it by two, for two stories.

Laugh laugh. You fell for the trap of owning your own home. Sucks to
be someone too stupid to know that renting is smarter.
http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/...in-retirement/

Point set match, indeed sir. Anything youd like to add before your
buffonish life is snuffed out in the great cull? Hmmmm? Use all the
whitespace you like.

Gunner, not in the mood today to pretend to be helpless.

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That's a pretty good "Gunner," but you left out his fleet of yachts. d8-)


Yachts in a desert? What kind of idiot would do that? I am sure Gummer
makes as much money as those Eskimos selling Hawaiin shirt in the Arctic
Circle.



Yachts? Yachts are typically over 30' long..usually in the 40' and
longer class. My biggest boat is only 25' long

https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9

https://goo.gl/photos/SSUkWWxmr6BYJohp9

With this sad ol girl..I have 7.

https://goo.gl/photos/t8ETr7jyDpT8ArP98

Got several of them up for sale btw. The most expensive one is the
Ensenada 20, at $1500 with outboard, the Venture 224 is $1000, no
outboard and the Oday Daysailer...hummm...$600-800, depending on who
wants it and where they live.


Ill turn the Newport Venture loose for about $500 or so. Has all the
gear and parts..but needs to be reassembled and the cockpit floor
glassed back in.

Btw...I dont do it for money. I do it because I enjoy restoring them,
and then sailing them. Hell..Ive given 3 boats away that Id restored.
Folks sail em several times a month.

The Canukistani has no comprehension of that concept..he is
universally worthless in all aspects.


Short sailing season up in North America's largest walk-in cooler -
maybe July and a few weeks of August...


As long as the water isnt blocked by ice..its sailing season. I will
note though that having a nice heater on board makes it much more
comfy.

Gunner


What can you tell us about Windancer II?


Its a 1972, Ive owned it since 1986, raced the **** out of it for
almost 10 yrs..then gave it away. They never used it and moved about
6 months or so ago, and they gave it back.

Looks to be a Hobie Cat, yes?


Ayup, Hobie 16. She is a bit tired..the hulls delaminated (very
common for early to mid 70s hulls in the hot desert sun out here. It
was fixed..but I dont trust hull strength in high winds. She will be
fine up to about 12 knots wind..after that...she might simply break in
half. Or not. Shrug.

Those are a kick to hike out on.


They are a total riot to sail, particularly in high winds. That one
was clocked at 35 mph in a 20 knot wind on Lake Buena Vista..which is
a very small lake just outside of Bakersfield, Ca.

Here is a video of a similar boat. Sailing scenes are in real time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUHXmuGMDPc

The section of the video where the bow of the boat is driven under
water..is called a "pitch pole"...which is why they are sitting on the
far ass end of the trampoline..to keep the bows out of the water...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtWoxDXUmko


This one is a Hobie 18 (internal dagger boards)...as you can see..they
are fast tough boats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tUz-J9QAtk



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On Sun, 28 May 2017 14:45:08 -0600, tyre biter wrote:

On 5/28/2017 2:10 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2017 12:02:05 -0400, JolDc?? ?????? ? ??????? ??zsbBL
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wrote on 5/28/2017 10:29 AM:
On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 9:59:00 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT),
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On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.

1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.

That's why I'm comfortably retired

Who says Im not retired? Ive not worked much my entire life! My
lifestyle is almost as good as people on fixed income but still
provides all the excitement enjoyed by starving artists...VBG

and you're a deadbeat who can't even pay his property taxes.

I choose to not pay them...shrug. Im no different than most of my
friends here that choose to not pay things visa versa child support
etc.

However, if the stroke hadn't eaten what was left of your brain,

Its true I dont have quite as much as I used to but I was recently
tested and certified to still have 159 - 162 of my original 165 IQ.
Which is more than enough to anililte all Leftists and most scientists
and scolars... shrug. The proof is in my resume.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wieber-00bb3660 Those of us that
know how to maintain our computers in a hitened state of readiness can
see sites like that one.

you'd remember that I said many times that we live in a tiny house. Not actually that tiny, however. They just took the dimensions of the foundation, before rear additions, and multiplied it by two, for two stories.

Laugh laugh. You fell for the trap of owning your own home. Sucks to
be someone too stupid to know that renting is smarter.
http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/...in-retirement/

Point set match, indeed sir. Anything youd like to add before your
buffonish life is snuffed out in the great cull? Hmmmm? Use all the
whitespace you like.

Gunner, not in the mood today to pretend to be helpless.

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That's a pretty good "Gunner," but you left out his fleet of yachts. d8-)


Yachts in a desert? What kind of idiot would do that? I am sure Gummer
makes as much money as those Eskimos selling Hawaiin shirt in the Arctic
Circle.



Yachts? Yachts are typically over 30' long..usually in the 40' and
longer class. My biggest boat is only 25' long

https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9

https://goo.gl/photos/SSUkWWxmr6BYJohp9

With this sad ol girl..I have 7.

https://goo.gl/photos/t8ETr7jyDpT8ArP98

Got several of them up for sale btw. The most expensive one is the
Ensenada 20, at $1500 with outboard, the Venture 224 is $1000, no
outboard and the Oday Daysailer...hummm...$600-800, depending on who
wants it and where they live.


Ill turn the Newport Venture loose for about $500 or so. Has all the
gear and parts..but needs to be reassembled and the cockpit floor
glassed back in.

Btw...I dont do it for money. I do it because I enjoy restoring them,
and then sailing them. Hell..Ive given 3 boats away that Id restored.
Folks sail em several times a month.

The Canukistani has no comprehension of that concept..he is
universally worthless in all aspects.


Short sailing season up in North America's largest walk-in cooler -
maybe July and a few weeks of August...


As long as the water isnt blocked by ice..its sailing season.


Well they do have that problem, lol...

I will
note though that having a nice heater on board makes it much more
comfy.


You'd need a coal-fired stove up there!

Gunner


What can you tell us about Windancer II?


Its a 1972, Ive owned it since 1986, raced the **** out of it for
almost 10 yrs..then gave it away. They never used it and moved about
6 months or so ago, and they gave it back.


That is very cool, bet that doesn't happen a lot.

Looks to be a Hobie Cat, yes?


Ayup, Hobie 16. She is a bit tired..the hulls delaminated (very
common for early to mid 70s hulls in the hot desert sun out here. It
was fixed..but I dont trust hull strength in high winds. She will be
fine up to about 12 knots wind..after that...she might simply break in
half. Or not. Shrug.


Well that'd be an eye-opener!

You plan on making her solid again?

Those are a kick to hike out on.


They are a total riot to sail, particularly in high winds. That one
was clocked at 35 mph in a 20 knot wind on Lake Buena Vista..which is
a very small lake just outside of Bakersfield, Ca.


Oooh, that's smoking along!

Here is a video of a similar boat. Sailing scenes are in real time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUHXmuGMDPc

The section of the video where the bow of the boat is driven under
water..is called a "pitch pole"...which is why they are sitting on the
far ass end of the trampoline..to keep the bows out of the water...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtWoxDXUmko



Oh HELL YES!!!!!

Those guys are flying, and 60 knots - wow!

This one is a Hobie 18 (internal dagger boards)...as you can see..they
are fast tough boats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tUz-J9QAtk

I thought that one guy was going right in the drink, good for having a
safety harness, no other way to make that work.

So is your Hobie fixable?

Be a shame not to bring her back to past glory.

Ever sail Dutchman class?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFERhk5uskM

They are super stable and the spinnaker kit is the bomb!
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.

1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.

That's why I'm comfortably retired


Who says Im not retired? Ive not worked much my entire life! My


Tsk tsk tsk....you know this really doesnt work anymore. Are you that
obsessive about "haunting" me that you simply dont understand that it
doesnt work, and only makes you look like an utter retard?


According to the dictionary, Haunting:
"having a deeply disquieting or disturbing effect"

Apparently telling the truth about you has a "a deeply disquieting or
disturbing effect" on you.

Gee, the solutions seems so simple, doesn't it? Just stop telling all
those lies.
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 17:07:48 -0600, tyre biter wrote:

On 5/28/2017 4:56 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2017 14:45:08 -0600, tyre biter wrote:

On 5/28/2017 2:10 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2017 12:02:05 -0400, JolDc?? ?????? ? ??????? ??zsbBL
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wrote on 5/28/2017 10:29 AM:
On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 9:59:00 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:13:33 -0600, tyre biter wrote:


First, you're not even in the right county. Second, if you're planning on committing a felony at my house, you miserable cowardly weasel, I'll make it easy for you: Google my ham radio call sign KC2NZT. You'll get my full name, my middle initial, my home address, and maybe more.

Huntress, Edward A
22 Tulsa Ave
Metuchen, NJ 08840


22 Tulsa Ave, Metuchen, NJ is a single family home that contains 1,196
sq ft and was built in 1935.

1200 sq ft? For a man of such grace, style and economic wealth?

My dog houses are bigger than that.

That's why I'm comfortably retired

Who says Im not retired? Ive not worked much my entire life! My
lifestyle is almost as good as people on fixed income but still
provides all the excitement enjoyed by starving artists...VBG

and you're a deadbeat who can't even pay his property taxes.

I choose to not pay them...shrug. Im no different than most of my
friends here that choose to not pay things visa versa child support
etc.

However, if the stroke hadn't eaten what was left of your brain,

Its true I dont have quite as much as I used to but I was recently
tested and certified to still have 159 - 162 of my original 165 IQ.
Which is more than enough to anililte all Leftists and most scientists
and scolars... shrug. The proof is in my resume.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wieber-00bb3660 Those of us that
know how to maintain our computers in a hitened state of readiness can
see sites like that one.

you'd remember that I said many times that we live in a tiny house. Not actually that tiny, however. They just took the dimensions of the foundation, before rear additions, and multiplied it by two, for two stories.

Laugh laugh. You fell for the trap of owning your own home. Sucks to
be someone too stupid to know that renting is smarter.
http://www.simplifyingthemarket.com/...in-retirement/

Point set match, indeed sir. Anything youd like to add before your
buffonish life is snuffed out in the great cull? Hmmmm? Use all the
whitespace you like.

Gunner, not in the mood today to pretend to be helpless.

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That's a pretty good "Gunner," but you left out his fleet of yachts. d8-)


Yachts in a desert? What kind of idiot would do that? I am sure Gummer
makes as much money as those Eskimos selling Hawaiin shirt in the Arctic
Circle.



Yachts? Yachts are typically over 30' long..usually in the 40' and
longer class. My biggest boat is only 25' long

https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9

https://goo.gl/photos/SSUkWWxmr6BYJohp9

With this sad ol girl..I have 7.

https://goo.gl/photos/t8ETr7jyDpT8ArP98

Got several of them up for sale btw. The most expensive one is the
Ensenada 20, at $1500 with outboard, the Venture 224 is $1000, no
outboard and the Oday Daysailer...hummm...$600-800, depending on who
wants it and where they live.


Ill turn the Newport Venture loose for about $500 or so. Has all the
gear and parts..but needs to be reassembled and the cockpit floor
glassed back in.

Btw...I dont do it for money. I do it because I enjoy restoring them,
and then sailing them. Hell..Ive given 3 boats away that Id restored.
Folks sail em several times a month.

The Canukistani has no comprehension of that concept..he is
universally worthless in all aspects.

Short sailing season up in North America's largest walk-in cooler -
maybe July and a few weeks of August...


As long as the water isnt blocked by ice..its sailing season.


Well they do have that problem, lol...


I was raised in Northern Michigan...I have some..some idea of the
concept...(Grin)

I will
note though that having a nice heater on board makes it much more
comfy.


You'd need a coal-fired stove up there!


Nah..the diesel heaters work pretty well. My alky stoves do a nice
job in the boats with a galley, as do my Coleman stoves in the
others..when the temps fall below that frigid 50F mark. (Grin)

Gunner

What can you tell us about Windancer II?


Its a 1972, Ive owned it since 1986, raced the **** out of it for
almost 10 yrs..then gave it away. They never used it and moved about
6 months or so ago, and they gave it back.


That is very cool, bet that doesn't happen a lot.


I have 5 nice boats that I've paid at most..in total..$1200 for the
boats, trailers, and all materials and supplies to recondition them.
I also run a group on Yahoo called "Cheapsailboats" where I find boats
from Free to $1500 and post them. I need to sit down this weekend and
post another 50 or so boats..Ive been working or sleeping and havent
maintained the group very well over the last few months.

Ebay is also a good place to find boats for cheap.

Cut and paste this into your browser and if it doesnt come up with
cheapest first..simply make that change

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Boats/26429/...dIn=1&_ sop=2

Examples from a minute ago...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Catalin...-/391794146908

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-Catalin...-/352070051175

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NF-1976-ODay...-/391792887374

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-ODay-Sa...-/263000080839

There are lots of cheap boats out there for little to nothing. Just
know what you are buying and how you are going to move it. This is why
I only deal with boats with centerboards and on trailers...as you
could see in the links I provided earlier.


This boat is typical:
https://goo.gl/photos/CWtpsL3UPsaixbqK8

This boat cost me...hummm....$200 for the boat, $66 for the
registration and paper work (California) and $163 for all the
materials, fish finders 5hp outboard, marine radio etc etc etc.

As is probably well known..I tend to be a scrounger and know when and
where to find stuff for very little money. Its become my Sunday
racer/single hander for when I want to go out to the lake for the day
and simply enjoy myself

The Aquarius 23 (link given earlier) was pretty much mint, cost me $67
for fuel to go get her and of course..$66 for registration. Its my
party/family/friends boat. She was loaded with everything from brand
new radios..am/fm and marine, to new compasses and many sails.

She is the Winnabago of the boats I own. Suprisingly fast, light
enough to tow behind my Ranger and capable of sleeping 5 adults in the
cabin. She does need some accent stripes on the outside of the hull
however...when I get around to it. Rustoleum is cheap. Shrug.





Looks to be a Hobie Cat, yes?


Ayup, Hobie 16. She is a bit tired..the hulls delaminated (very
common for early to mid 70s hulls in the hot desert sun out here. It
was fixed..but I dont trust hull strength in high winds. She will be
fine up to about 12 knots wind..after that...she might simply break in
half. Or not. Shrug.


Well that'd be an eye-opener!


Getting her back to shore is the bigger problem.

You plan on making her solid again?


Nah...Hobies much newer, are $500 or less and I really dont have much
interest anymore in dragsters...so she is up for grabs for anyone who
wants her. Free to anyone who wants to come and get her. As I
said..Im not in it for the money. There is about $500 worth of mast,
good sails and hardware on her if someone wanted to break her down and
sell her a piece at a time..but I dont have the heart to do that.



Those are a kick to hike out on.


They are a total riot to sail, particularly in high winds. That one
was clocked at 35 mph in a 20 knot wind on Lake Buena Vista..which is
a very small lake just outside of Bakersfield, Ca.


Oooh, that's smoking along!

Here is a video of a similar boat. Sailing scenes are in real time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUHXmuGMDPc

The section of the video where the bow of the boat is driven under
water..is called a "pitch pole"...which is why they are sitting on the
far ass end of the trampoline..to keep the bows out of the water...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtWoxDXUmko



Oh HELL YES!!!!!

Those guys are flying, and 60 knots - wow!

This one is a Hobie 18 (internal dagger boards)...as you can see..they
are fast tough boats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tUz-J9QAtk

I thought that one guy was going right in the drink, good for having a
safety harness, no other way to make that work.


Thats called a "Trapeze". Because the boat only weighs about 500 lbs
at most...the crew is used to ballast her..to keep her from flipping
over. A steel cable hangs from each side where a "trapeze" harness is
used to hook to a ring/dogbone on each side. One can "trap up" in less
than 2 seconds, "fly on the wire" and when turning to head in another
direction..unhook, and move to the other side of the boat, hook back
up again and **** and git.
The Trap is common on many many small sailboats and on cats
(catamarans).



So is your Hobie fixable?

Be a shame not to bring her back to past glory.


Too much concern about the hull seperating just in front of the
trampoline. Then needing to be towed back to the loading ramp...and
then trying to fit her on a trailer designed to hold 2 intact hulls.
It would be a good boat for a couple who dont have an addiction to
High Wind Glory....but I tend to take things out to the bleeding
edge..and she simply isnt up to it anymore. Lots of Hobies out there
for very little money. The trailer is good, tires could use
replaceing, the sails are Excellent, the lines are good etc etc.

Ever sail Dutchman class?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFERhk5uskM

They are super stable and the spinnaker kit is the bomb!


Ive been on a Flying Dutchman several times. Neat boats. I sold a
pair of Flying Juniors last year that I enjoyed..but were too small
for me. Bought one for $200..a 1998 and the other for $125..a 2004.

Then the grandkids moved to Utah and I had no one to sail em
with...sigh.

That being said..I am looking for a decent 505, if you ever find one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYU4Xtndj9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5edIDduOfS4

I rather enjoy "Fresh to Frightening" sailing, but my wife is not into
it and has some medical issues..so the 505 I can..can single hand
(without the chute) in most weather and its set up well enough that I
can put her back up on her feet if I capsize her, without help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RndsGUyzG40

The 505 is also the strongest of the bigger than 15' dingies and the
easiest to sail single handed.

I raced a Thistle for 10 yrs, mostly single handed...when I was young,
tough and in good shape. Too much boat for me these days....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMWK4PAJ0AA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhi0...yxWf73&index=1

Ever see her...#1308...rub her bow for me. No idea where she is
now...sigh.

Gunner

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As long as the water isnt blocked by ice..its sailing season. I will
note though that having a nice heater on board makes it much more
comfy.

Gunner




As long as the ice is smooth and strong enough, you can sail on an ice boat.

Dan
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On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 6:56:09 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:



As long as the water isnt blocked by ice..its sailing season. I will
note though that having a nice heater on board makes it much more
comfy.

Gunner



As long as the ice is smooth and strong enough, you can sail on an ice boat.

Dan


True indeed! I almost wish we had a "winter" here, so I could run an
iceboat.

However..desert sailing is fun also.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_sailing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRFRQXPtXTs


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