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Why is it?
Every small and medium sized MIG welder I see has the wire loaded on
the right hand side of the machine and the wire unrolls off the bottom
of the spool. Yet every spool of MIG wire I have seen that fits in
these machines only has one label and this label is on the side of the
spool that faces in so the spool must be removed in order to see what
kind of wire it is.
Sheesh!
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Why is it?
Every small and medium sized MIG welder I see has the wire loaded on
the right hand side of the machine and the wire unrolls off the bottom
of the spool. Yet every spool of MIG wire I have seen that fits in
these machines only has one label and this label is on the side of the
spool that faces in so the spool must be removed in order to see what
kind of wire it is.
Sheesh!
Eric


I made a slight mod to my little MIG welder. I drilled a hole in the back panel so I can mount a 30 lb spool on some supports behind the welder and run tte wire thru the hole and on to the pinch rollers. The intent is of course to be able to use 30 lb spools , but it does make it easy to see both sides of the spool.

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I made a slight mod to my little MIG welder. I drilled a
hole in the back panel so I can mount a 30 lb spool on some
supports behind the welder and run tte wire thru the hole
and on to the pinch rollers. The intent is of course to be
able to use 30 lb spools , but it does make it easy to see
both sides of the spool.


Pretty funny. I had to cob together an adapter to use a 2lb spool in my
Millermatic 200. No problem mounting 44lb spools

Normally I always ran the big spools of .035 ER70S-6 wire so it really
didn't matter if I could read the label or not. Kinda knew already what
was in it.

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Why is it?
Every small and medium sized MIG welder I see has the wire loaded on
the right hand side of the machine and the wire unrolls off the bottom
of the spool. Yet every spool of MIG wire I have seen that fits in
these machines only has one label and this label is on the side of the
spool that faces in so the spool must be removed in order to see what
kind of wire it is.
Sheesh!
Eric


No matter to me. My baby MIG only gets one kind of wire. .30 generic flux
core.






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Why is it?
Every small and medium sized MIG welder I see has the wire loaded on
the right hand side of the machine and the wire unrolls off the
bottom of the spool. Yet every spool of MIG wire I have seen that
fits in these machines only has one label and this label is on the
side of the spool that faces in so the spool must be removed in
order to see what kind of wire it is.
Sheesh!
Eric


No matter to me. My baby MIG only gets one kind of wire. .30
generic flux core.


Pretty easy to tell here , I use only .025" ER70S6 or .035" flux core .
Until the roll of .025" is used up , then I'll go to the roll of .030" .
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Why is it?
Every small and medium sized MIG welder I see has the wire loaded on
the right hand side of the machine and the wire unrolls off the bottom
of the spool. Yet every spool of MIG wire I have seen that fits in
these machines only has one label and this label is on the side of the
spool that faces in so the spool must be removed in order to see what
kind of wire it is.
Sheesh!
Eric


No matter to me. My baby MIG only gets one kind of wire. .30 generic flux
core.



Today I was running .030 silicon bronze. Besides the silicon bronze,
I have and run .030 4043 and 5356 aluminum, .023 and .030 70S2 steel,
..035 flux core hardfacing , and .025 304 and 309 SS wires. Using my
little Lincoln SP 125Plus. Great little machine. I love it.
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I made a slight mod to my little MIG welder. ... a 30 lb spool ...


30 lb! 2 lb lasts me forever - do you use your MIG for business? If
not, what kind of hobby work uses so much wire?

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30 lb! 2 lb lasts me forever - do you use your MIG for business? If
not, what kind of hobby work uses so much wire?

Bob


I am a scrounge. So bought various big spools at places as Boeing Surplus and the local scrap yard and have wound some onto 10 lb spools. But respooling is kind of a PITA. So just made a stand out of bed frame angle iron . -I have found dual shield, silicon bronze , and various stainless wires at scrap yard prices.

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Today I was running .030 silicon bronze. Besides the silicon bronze,
I have and run .030 4043 and 5356 aluminum, .023 and .030 70S2 steel,
.035 flux core hardfacing , and .025 304 and 309 SS wires. Using my
little Lincoln SP 125Plus. Great little machine. I love it.
Eric


I have that machine & love mine.

Do you have a spool gun for aluminum? I've heard that it's almost
impossible to use without one. And I suppose that you have a variety of
gases for the different wires.

Do you change wires often? It's such a PITA for me that I'd almost
rather haul my gas tank to a remote job than switch to flux core & then
back.

Bob

I use a different whip for aluminum. Instead of changing liners cause
it's such a hassle. I do use different gasses and even made a mixing
manifold that works well. I have found that I can run the softer 4043
aluminum wire with little problem. In fact, I did a job recently where
I could see, with my new helmet, the aluminum wire vaporizing in the
arc and depositing on the part. The trick for aluminum wire is the
plastic liner in the whip, keeping the whip as straight as possible,
and adjusting the drive roll pressure such that it barely drives the
wire. That way if the wire stops moving in the whip it won't bird's
nest inside the machine. And I really don't mind changing wires so
much. I have done it enough that I have apparently found a method that
works well because I can change wire and contact tip in just a few
minutes. I made new, large, thumb screws for weld cables, ones that I
can grab easily with my Welper pliers, so that changing polarity is
easy too.
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Why is it?
Every small and medium sized MIG welder I see has the wire loaded on
the right hand side of the machine and the wire unrolls off the bottom
of the spool. Yet every spool of MIG wire I have seen that fits in
these machines only has one label and this label is on the side of the
spool that faces in so the spool must be removed in order to see what
kind of wire it is.
Sheesh!
Eric


No matter to me. My baby MIG only gets one kind of wire. .30 generic
flux
core.



Today I was running .030 silicon bronze. Besides the silicon bronze,
I have and run .030 4043 and 5356 aluminum, .023 and .030 70S2 steel,
.035 flux core hardfacing , and .025 304 and 309 SS wires. Using my
little Lincoln SP 125Plus. Great little machine. I love it.
Eric


I run 4043 and 5356 in my spool gun on the bigger machine. The labels show
nicely. Well, except on the spools that the labels fell off of and I don't
know what they are anymore.



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what kind of hobby work uses so much wire?


Hobbies that want to be a business but real life (and the ****ing
Greedy Power Co) get in the way of:-(
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On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 10:35:44 AM UTC-4, wrote:

30 lb! 2 lb lasts me forever - do you use your MIG for business? If
not, what kind of hobby work uses so much wire?

Bob


I am a scrounge. So bought various big spools at places as Boeing Surplus and the local scrap yard and have wound some onto 10 lb spools. But respooling is kind of a PITA. So just made a stand out of bed frame angle iron . -I have found dual shield, silicon bronze , and various stainless wires at scrap yard prices.

Dan


Do you have a stick welder? I was at the scrap yard and there was someone turning in a bunch of various stick rods. I really do not need any more stick electrodes but did buy some as it was stuff I did not have . So if you have a stick welder, let me know and I will see what I can get for you.

Dan

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I use a paint pen. Felt pen doesn't show up very well on
the black plastic reels.


Fingernail polish is good, but its container is bad. Who wants to open up the tools and find broken glass and the stuff everywhere.
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