On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 12:56:57 PM UTC-5, VSnoK–‘ ï¼*ｉｇｈｔｙ –‘ ï¼·ï½�ｎｎï½�ｂｅ –‘SfvgA wrote:
Neon John wrote on 20/01/2016 12:26:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:49:56 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:


I might have tried that if I didn't already have it torn partway down for
diagnostic purposes - I was looking for a loose connection or a wire
unplugged . Not really a big deal on this model though , 4 screws for the
end cap and 2 that secure the brush holder/rectifier unit .

My standard flashing kit doesn't require any disassembly. IT consists
of a Jesus cord (male 120 volt plug on one end, flying leads on the
other) connected in series with a 300 watt incandescent lamp to a
small AGM 12 volt battery.

Cranking the chuck of a corded electric drill plugged into the generator
by hand to energize the field coil may be more convenient.


To use, crank the generator and then simply stick the Jesus cord plug
into one of the outlets for just a moment. The lamp when cold, allows
quite a bit of DC current to flow. That almost instantly energizes
the field which makes the generator start generating 120 volts. That's
when the lamp lights, protecting the battery from an AC surge.

I used to have one generator that required flashing almost every time
I used it. I solved that problem by drilling the edge of the face of
one stator pole and gluing a tiny super-magnet in the hole. Problem
solved for as long as I owned the unit.

This is ingenious. There will always be "residual" magnetism in the poles..

Yea, after the power is off. Then, its like a capacitative effect, but it could be dangerous if you take it apart (if it isn't first bled). You know, it could "whack" you a bit.

wrote:
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 12:56:57 PM UTC-5, VSnoK? Mighty ?
Wannabe ?SfvgA wrote:
Neon John wrote on 20/01/2016 12:26:

To use, crank the generator and then simply stick the Jesus cord
plug into one of the outlets for just a moment. The lamp when
cold, allows quite a bit of DC current to flow. That almost
instantly energizes the field which makes the generator start
generating 120 volts. That's when the lamp lights, protecting the
battery from an AC surge.

I used to have one generator that required flashing almost every
time I used it. I solved that problem by drilling the edge of the
face of one stator pole and gluing a tiny super-magnet in the hole.
Problem solved for as long as I owned the unit.

This is ingenious. There will always be "residual" magnetism in the
poles.

Yea, after the power is off. Then, its like a capacitative effect,
but it could be dangerous if you take it apart (if it isn't first
bled). You know, it could "whack" you a bit.

Say what ? Residual magnetism can act as a capacitor and "bite" you ?
I'll get the popcorn , this is gonna be interesting .
--
Snag

On 1/20/2016 1:43 PM, wrote:


I used to have one generator that required flashing almost every time
I used it. I solved that problem by drilling the edge of the face of
one stator pole and gluing a tiny super-magnet in the hole. Problem
solved for as long as I owned the unit.

This is ingenious. There will always be "residual" magnetism in the poles.

Yea, after the power is off. Then, its like a capacitative effect,

but it could be dangerous if you take it apart (if it isn't first bled).

You know, it could "whack" you a bit.

Oh no, this isn't another one of your whacky voodoo electronics
theories is it.
I remember the last one, you were so misinformed, I couldn't even
begin to get thinking straight.

Mikek

On 1/20/2016 3:40 PM, amdx wrote:
On 1/20/2016 1:43 PM, wrote:


I used to have one generator that required flashing almost every time
I used it. I solved that problem by drilling the edge of the face of
one stator pole and gluing a tiny super-magnet in the hole. Problem
solved for as long as I owned the unit.

This is ingenious. There will always be "residual" magnetism in the
poles.

Yea, after the power is off. Then, its like a capacitative effect,

but it could be dangerous if you take it apart (if it isn't first bled).

You know, it could "whack" you a bit.

Oh no, this isn't another one of your whacky voodoo electronics
theories is it.
I remember the last one, you were so misinformed, I couldn't even
begin to get you thinking straight.

Mikek

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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 12:56:57 PM UTC-5, VSnoK? Mighty ?
Wannabe ?SfvgA wrote:
Neon John wrote on 20/01/2016 12:26:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:49:56 -0600, "Terry Coombs"

wrote:


I might have tried that if I didn't already have it torn
partway down for
diagnostic purposes - I was looking for a loose connection or a
wire
unplugged . Not really a big deal on this model though , 4 screws
for the
end cap and 2 that secure the brush holder/rectifier unit .

My standard flashing kit doesn't require any disassembly. IT
consists
of a Jesus cord (male 120 volt plug on one end, flying leads on
the
other) connected in series with a 300 watt incandescent lamp to a
small AGM 12 volt battery.

Cranking the chuck of a corded electric drill plugged into the
generator
by hand to energize the field coil may be more convenient.


To use, crank the generator and then simply stick the Jesus cord
plug
into one of the outlets for just a moment. The lamp when cold,
allows
quite a bit of DC current to flow. That almost instantly
energizes
the field which makes the generator start generating 120 volts.
That's
when the lamp lights, protecting the battery from an AC surge.

I used to have one generator that required flashing almost every
time
I used it. I solved that problem by drilling the edge of the face
of
one stator pole and gluing a tiny super-magnet in the hole.
Problem
solved for as long as I owned the unit.

This is ingenious. There will always be "residual" magnetism in the
poles.

Yea, after the power is off. Then, its like a capacitative effect, but
it could be dangerous if you take it apart (if it isn't first bled).
You know, it could "whack" you a bit.

Electricity and magnetism behave differently from that under our
yellow sun.

amdx wrote:
begin to get you thinking straight.


Yeah, with that fancy dime-store ammeter wanna-be professor crap.

Terry Coombs wrote:

Say what ?

You saw what I wrote. What, are you blind, Terry?

Residual magnetism can act as a capacitor and "bite" you ?
I'll get the popcorn , this is gonna be interesting .

Well actually Terry, maybe, just maybe it won't. Maybe, if you unplug something and take it apart, maybe nothing'll bite.
--

Jim Wilkins wrote:
....
Yea, after the power is off. Then, its like a capacitative effect, but
it could be dangerous if you take it apart (if it isn't first bled).
You know, it could "whack" you a bit.

Electricity and magnetism behave differently from that under our
yellow sun.

Not under mine.

On 1/20/2016 7:21 PM, wrote:
amdx wrote:
begin to get you thinking straight.


Yeah, with that fancy dime-store ammeter wanna-be professor crap.


You can lead a horse to water but...
As was the end to the thread when you said,
"Overhead commercial lighting voltage is 277 so its less current and
less dangerous,"
Do you still stand by that statement or have you been enlightened.

Mikek

btw, you said, "with that fancy dime-store ammeter" sounds like maybe
you bought yourself a new multimeter that you're proud of, go ahead,
tell us about it. What did you get?

wrote:
Terry Coombs wrote:

Say what ?

You saw what I wrote. What, are you blind, Terry?

Residual magnetism can act as a capacitor and "bite" you ?
I'll get the popcorn , this is gonna be interesting .

Well actually Terry, maybe, just maybe it won't. Maybe, if you
unplug something and take it apart, maybe nothing'll bite.

The generation of electrical current using a magnet requires the magnetic
field interacting with a coil of wire , it has no storage capacity and
*CANNOT* "bite" you .
--
Snag

amdx wrote:
You can lead a horse to water but...
As was the end to the thread when you said,
"Overhead commercial lighting voltage is 277 so its less current and
less dangerous,"
Do you still stand by that statement or have you been enlightened.

That ... Has been bothering you? all this time? Mike, I'm not a professional engineer and clearly you aren't either. If I honestly want to know, I could find out from several places. I don't have to know. I just pull wire, install devices & supports and drive trucks. I don't have a journeyman's license in electrical, nor do I want the RESPONSIBILITY of having one.

btw, you said, "with that fancy dime-store ammeter" sounds like maybe
you bought yourself a new multimeter that you're proud of, go ahead,
tell us about it. What did you get?

My fluke is burned out. I only use a hot stick when needed.

Terry, if I want to know what can shock me and what can't, I'm sure I can find out way quicker than you.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 19:54:03 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

wrote:
Terry Coombs wrote:

Say what ?

You saw what I wrote. What, are you blind, Terry?

Residual magnetism can act as a capacitor and "bite" you ?
I'll get the popcorn , this is gonna be interesting .

Well actually Terry, maybe, just maybe it won't. Maybe, if you
unplug something and take it apart, maybe nothing'll bite.

The generation of electrical current using a magnet requires the magnetic
field interacting with a coil of wire , it has no storage capacity and
*CANNOT* "bite" you .

Well, you're wrong you know. A magnet can bite you, just get your
finger between one of the big rare earth magnets and a steel plate.
But of course that's just brute strength, no 'lestrics at all. :-)
--

Cheers,

John B.