On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

On 9/30/2015 10:47 AM, wrote:
On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

There will not be another Republican president for another 20 years.


--

Any serious look at the history of human beings over the millennia shows
that the species began in poverty. It is not poverty, but prosperity,
that needs explaining. Poverty is automatic, but prosperity requires
many things -- none of which is equally distributed around the world or
even within a given society.

Thomas Sowell

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

I heard something funny on TV last night, apparently coming from a
reputable national reporter. He was talking with an unnamed Red State
Republican congressman -- an establishment type -- who said "I spend
my time in Washington trying to convince people that I'm not crazy.
Then I go home to my district and try to convince people that I am."

--
Ed Huntress

" on Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

The GOP - Whigs for the 21st Century.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 10:47:20 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

After the religious right completely takes over and fails miserably the GOP can be rebuilt. Once again Barry Goldwater will be proven right:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05...ligious-right/

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:26:33 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

" on Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

The GOP - Whigs for the 21st Century.

Self Destruction, done dirt cheap.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

Gunner

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:58:27 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

Gunner

I'm surprised you would say that, because the Republican Party has
grown increasingly conservative over the past 40 years. Before that,
there was a liberal wing and a BIG moderate center to the party, and
they elected four presidents out of six.

Remember, Reagan was the one who granted amnesty to undocumented
immigrants; increased the federal workforce by 60,000 people; trimmed
taxes but also raised them 11 times, including the payroll tax hike in
'83 to bail out SS and Medicare; ran up the national debt from $700
billion to $3 trillion, and so on. He was labelled a "conservative"
then, but he was a pragmatist who swung both ways. The nutjobs in the
Republican Party today would disown him if he was around now.

So who is the deadwood? I'd say it's the loons who are preventing the
party from winning the presidency -- because more than half of the
country thinks they're incompetent or nuts.

--
Ed Huntress

Larry Jaques on Wed, 30 Sep 2015
22:09:38 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:26:33 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:
" on Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

The GOP - Whigs for the 21st Century.

Self Destruction, done dirt cheap.

Yep. I don't mind that much what it does to the party. It is the
impact on the country which worries me.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

Gunner Asch on Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:58:27 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

Read up on the Whig party. Especially what happened in the 1850s,
when the leadership couldn't bring itself to be against slavery. The
Democrats won the next go round, but in 1860 couldn't bring the party
to one stance on the slavery issue, and split their vote.

Gunner
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 15:47:19 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

. Before that,
there was a liberal wing and a BIG moderate center to the party, and
they elected four presidents out of six.

That should be four out of seven.

--
Ed Huntress

On 10/1/2015 11:58 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

You're watching the Republican party commit suicide, thereby
guaranteeing 24+ years of Democratic presidents.

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 13:29:46 -0700, "...and the dish ran away with the
spoon" wrote:

On 10/1/2015 11:58 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

You're watching the Republican party commit suicide, thereby
guaranteeing 24+ years of Democratic presidents.

Or it will turn the GOP into a very strong hardline Constitutional
group that will fight the DNC with every tooth and nail.

Which works for me quite nicely.

If it doesnt, it deserves to die.

Gunner

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:58:27 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:54:34 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 13:29:46 -0700, "...and the dish ran away with the
spoon" wrote:

On 10/1/2015 11:58 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

You're watching the Republican party commit suicide, thereby
guaranteeing 24+ years of Democratic presidents.

Or it will turn the GOP into a very strong hardline Constitutional
group that will fight the DNC with every tooth and nail.

Crom help us if it doesn't.


Which works for me quite nicely.

If it doesnt, it deserves to die.

+1. Ross Perot shook the political parties down to their toes in
1992. Unfortunately, even _that_ wasn't enough for them to straighten
up and fly right for more than a few minutes. Now, if Trump doesn't
make it, we may well be demanding "Where's that damned Cull?"

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 05:46:34 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:54:34 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 13:29:46 -0700, "...and the dish ran away with the
spoon" wrote:

On 10/1/2015 11:58 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:47:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:15:24 PM UTC-4, Scott Sease wrote:
It's about ****ing time.


Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution
to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but
was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told
him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund
Planned Parenthood.

Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

You're watching the Republican party commit suicide, thereby
guaranteeing 24+ years of Democratic presidents.

Or it will turn the GOP into a very strong hardline Constitutional
group that will fight the DNC with every tooth and nail.

Crom help us if it doesn't.

The trouble with that is that they'll all have a different idea of
what the Consitution says -- and none of them will really know.



Which works for me quite nicely.

If it doesnt, it deserves to die.

+1. Ross Perot shook the political parties down to their toes in
1992. Unfortunately, even _that_ wasn't enough for them to straighten
up and fly right for more than a few minutes.

Ross Perot pulled less than 19% of the popular vote. Here was the
lesson learned: A neurotic populist is going to be disliked by eight
out of ten Americans. Stay clear of that nonsense.

Now, if Trump doesn't
make it, we may well be demanding "Where's that damned Cull?"

Mass-murder fantasies are only going to leave you frustrated. Normal
people will stay as far away from you as they can.

--
Ed Huntress

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

--
Ed Huntress

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.
--
cheers,

John B.

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

Actually..you got your numbers a bit confused. There are aprox 400
Million privately owned firearms in American hands, and a bit over 50%
of citizens admit..admit to owning one or more firearms. Total US
population is about 352 Million last I heard..so that makes at least
(1) firearm for every man, woman and child here, with a significant
number as surplus.

Over the past 10 yrs..and its continuing, first time firearms buyers
lead the way in becoming gun owners..hence there were aprox 11 million
or more AR-15s sold in the past 5 yrs alone, and at least 2x that many
new handguns.

Politicians have been juggling the numbers around for years..but few
people actually know who has them. I make the case that a large
number of Democrats own firearms and use them wisely. One should
never forget that Most...most Democrats believe in the Second
Amendment and ownership of firearms. Unfortunately..the leadership of
their party are wackos of the worst sort.

I live in a very Red county here in California..and at the shooting
matches..a significant number of the shooters are Democrat.
However..they are NOT Far Leftwing Extremist Fringe Kooks.

On the other hand..the prisons in the US are filled to capacity with
Democrats..with a few Republicans as well..simply to season the mix.

Hell...57% of the prison populations are Black..and they are life long
Democrats..whose parents were/are Democrats. Yet they only make up 13%
of the voting public. Virtually ALL those convicted of drug and sex
crimes are Democrats. White collar crimes tend to be committed by
Republicans. Shrug

The mental hospitals of course..are filled with Democrats. To be a
Far Leftwing Extremist Fringe Kook..you have to be crazy..there are
significant published studies that show that clearly..and of course,
once again...the Democrat fits the criteria.

Shrug. When I was a cop back in the 1970s...I cant recall ever
arresting a Republican for a crime. Democrats and wetbacks....they
were the nasty ones.

Gunner

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Yeah, I keep waiting for that last straw to be played by the gov't.
Then,
It's Culler Time!

--
The human brain is unique in that it is the only container of which
it can be said that the more you put into it, the more it will hold.
-- Glenn Doman

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.
--
cheers,

John B.

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I'm sure that your international perspective is useful in assessing
what's going on here. My only personal experience was that I was in
Paris in '68, arriving on the day of the ""Adieu, de Gaulle!" march of
a half-million people, which made me think I must have time-travelled
back to 1789. I half-expected to see the guillotine hauled out onto
the street. g

One thing you probably recognize is how profoundly conservative the US
is, in the classical sense (which has nothing to do with today's
politics). The chance we would actually have a revolution is zero.

With the fragmentation of our media, along with the idea-isolation
that goes along with it, we have some delusional cells of people on
both ends of the spectrum, who look around at their cohorts and start
to believe that the kind of anger and dissafection they see will build
up and lead to a physical revolution. That's mostly a product of their
feeble imaginations and wishful thinking. They live on anecdotes and
selective sources of ideas, and their selection looks like a meat
market in the Soviet Union, ca. 1970 -- mostly fat and rotted meat.
For example, the crap dragged in here by Kopypasta Keller.

Polls have become even more valuable to re-gain perspective on what
the country as a whole thinks and wants. It ain't a revolution. It's
more of a restoration of accountable and responsible government. And
they know that the least likely way to achieve that is to let the gun
nutz/right-wing loons run loose and start shooting. They have no clue
what to do, and almost everyone knows it.

--
Ed Huntress

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Ah.... first of all you only have $150 so you can't afford to buy
enough gas to get to Sacramento, and none of your junk cars will run,
so you can't get to Sacrament even if you had $200. Secondly, you
don't dare to go out an shoot anyone. If you actually were a brave and
intrepid revolutionary you would have already done it, rather than
just talk about it.

As I've already said, the riots in Los Angeles were spontaneous
up-risings. They demonstrate just how effective they really are. Did
Gunner and his mates go running down to Watts to join the uprising?
Did those uprisings trigger all the malcontents in California to grab
their guns and start shooting?
--
cheers,

John B.

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.


Ah.... first of all you only have $150 so you can't afford to buy
enough gas to get to Sacramento, and none of your junk cars will run,
so you can't get to Sacrament even if you had $200. Secondly, you
don't dare to go out an shoot anyone. If you actually were a brave and
intrepid revolutionary you would have already done it, rather than
just talk about it.

Now you are certainly drifting into the ozone.

As I've already said, the riots in Los Angeles were spontaneous
up-risings. They demonstrate just how effective they really are. Did
Gunner and his mates go running down to Watts to join the uprising?
Did those uprisings trigger all the malcontents in California to grab
their guns and start shooting?

They were ? Funny....the start of the last set of riots were planned
and executed over some period of time. They just were of limited
scope. The Great Cull....IE the Second American Revolution....wont be
a riot by black gangsas I assure you.

Gunner

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!


Ah.... first of all you only have $150 so you can't afford to buy
enough gas to get to Sacramento, and none of your junk cars will run,
so you can't get to Sacrament even if you had $200. Secondly, you
don't dare to go out an shoot anyone. If you actually were a brave and
intrepid revolutionary you would have already done it, rather than
just talk about it.

Now you are certainly drifting into the ozone.

As I've already said, the riots in Los Angeles were spontaneous
up-risings. They demonstrate just how effective they really are. Did
Gunner and his mates go running down to Watts to join the uprising?
Did those uprisings trigger all the malcontents in California to grab
their guns and start shooting?

They were ? Funny....the start of the last set of riots were planned
and executed over some period of time. They just were of limited
scope. The Great Cull....IE the Second American Revolution....wont be
a riot by black gangsas I assure you.

Some people might hope all colors of gangstas to be some of the first
casualties of said impending revolution.

--
Canadian: An unarmed American with healthcare.

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm
the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You
want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear.



Ah.... first of all you only have $150 so you can't afford to buy
enough gas to get to Sacramento, and none of your junk cars will run,
so you can't get to Sacrament even if you had $200. Secondly, you
don't dare to go out an shoot anyone. If you actually were a brave and
intrepid revolutionary you would have already done it, rather than
just talk about it.

Now you are certainly drifting into the ozone.

As I've already said, the riots in Los Angeles were spontaneous
up-risings. They demonstrate just how effective they really are. Did
Gunner and his mates go running down to Watts to join the uprising?
Did those uprisings trigger all the malcontents in California to grab
their guns and start shooting?

They were ? Funny....the start of the last set of riots were planned
and executed over some period of time. They just were of limited
scope. The Great Cull....IE the Second American Revolution....wont be
a riot by black gangsas I assure you.

Some people might hope all colors of gangstas to be some of the first
casualties of said impending revolution.

And which color are you wishing will be the first casualties, Larry?

--
Ed Huntress

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

Ayup...he sure did.


Ah.... first of all you only have $150 so you can't afford to buy
enough gas to get to Sacramento, and none of your junk cars will run,
so you can't get to Sacrament even if you had $200. Secondly, you
don't dare to go out an shoot anyone. If you actually were a brave and
intrepid revolutionary you would have already done it, rather than
just talk about it.

Now you are certainly drifting into the ozone.

As I've already said, the riots in Los Angeles were spontaneous
up-risings. They demonstrate just how effective they really are. Did
Gunner and his mates go running down to Watts to join the uprising?
Did those uprisings trigger all the malcontents in California to grab
their guns and start shooting?

They were ? Funny....the start of the last set of riots were planned
and executed over some period of time. They just were of limited
scope. The Great Cull....IE the Second American Revolution....wont be
a riot by black gangsas I assure you.

Some people might hope all colors of gangstas to be some of the first
casualties of said impending revolution.

True indeed. "Cleaning the streets".

Ive been told that there are a number of people who go into the city
and troll for thugs, and when they attack, they get terminated. Now
I think thats a bit unecessary..but it does tend to thin out the worst
ones.

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 22:13:35 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

Ayup...he sure did.

Dimwit. You can't follow attributions, either.

--
Ed Huntress

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

It would probably make your remarks a bit more interesting if you read
the message before you replied to it.

Twernt Ed that made that remark, 'twas me.

--
cheers,

John B.

On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm
the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You
want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear.


And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After
threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great
Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his
bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is
nothing but a feeble old man.
--
cheers,

John B.

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 22:13:35 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:
But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

Ayup...he sure did.

And he thinks _we're_ loose cannons?


As I've already said, the riots in Los Angeles were spontaneous
up-risings. They demonstrate just how effective they really are. Did
Gunner and his mates go running down to Watts to join the uprising?
Did those uprisings trigger all the malcontents in California to grab
their guns and start shooting?

They were ? Funny....the start of the last set of riots were planned
and executed over some period of time. They just were of limited
scope. The Great Cull....IE the Second American Revolution....wont be
a riot by black gangsas I assure you.

Some people might hope all colors of gangstas to be some of the first
casualties of said impending revolution.

True indeed. "Cleaning the streets".

Ive been told that there are a number of people who go into the city
and troll for thugs, and when they attack, they get terminated. Now
I think thats a bit unecessary..

Do you really? I might agree, only to the extent that there are some
brainless/lawless vigilantes who are indiscriminate. But I say "more
power to the street cleaners". The fewer violent thugs who go into
our prison system (or continue to ruin lives on the street) the
better. It costs taxpayers more to keep a thug in prison than you or
I make in a year. Street Cleaner prescribed lead pills are much more
economical and sane, IMHO.

I support the 99% of police who are the good guys, and hope CopCams on
our men in blue weed out that last 1% of corruption and hate within
the next year.


but it does tend to thin out the worst ones.

As it should. Viva Judge Dredd!

--
Canadian: An unarmed American with healthcare.

On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 08:39:02 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 22:13:35 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:
But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

Ayup...he sure did.

And he thinks _we're_ loose cannons?

Idiot. You've been corrected twice on that. Do you need new glasses?

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm
the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You
want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear.


And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After
threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great
Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his
bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is
nothing but a feeble old man.

You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a
stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick?

Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues,
based on this post of yours.


Gunner

On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 08:39:02 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 22:13:35 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:
But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

Ayup...he sure did.

And he thinks _we're_ loose cannons?


As I've already said, the riots in Los Angeles were spontaneous
up-risings. They demonstrate just how effective they really are. Did
Gunner and his mates go running down to Watts to join the uprising?
Did those uprisings trigger all the malcontents in California to grab
their guns and start shooting?

They were ? Funny....the start of the last set of riots were planned
and executed over some period of time. They just were of limited
scope. The Great Cull....IE the Second American Revolution....wont be
a riot by black gangsas I assure you.

Some people might hope all colors of gangstas to be some of the first
casualties of said impending revolution.

True indeed. "Cleaning the streets".

Ive been told that there are a number of people who go into the city
and troll for thugs, and when they attack, they get terminated. Now
I think thats a bit unecessary..

Do you really? I might agree, only to the extent that there are some
brainless/lawless vigilantes who are indiscriminate. But I say "more
power to the street cleaners". The fewer violent thugs who go into
our prison system (or continue to ruin lives on the street) the
better. It costs taxpayers more to keep a thug in prison than you or
I make in a year. Street Cleaner prescribed lead pills are much more
economical and sane, IMHO.

Some of the guys coming back from the Sandbox have made this sorta a
hobby, by all accounts. An interesting way to deal with PTSD.

Cops dont talk about it much...shrug.

I support the 99% of police who are the good guys, and hope CopCams on
our men in blue weed out that last 1% of corruption and hate within
the next year.


but it does tend to thin out the worst ones.

As it should. Viva Judge Dredd!

On 10/4/2015 12:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

That's right, you are old, and decrepit. Those yarns about one-handed
pull-ups and kicking lightbulbs out of fixtures on an eight-foot ceiling
were obviously horse****.

The fact remains that you have been claiming - obvious bull**** - to be
"forwarding the headers" of people who offend you to "those who keep the
[non-existent] list" of people who are to be "culled." You purport to
have some kind of knowledge of these people.

It's all bull****. No "cull", no "list", no "those who keep the list."

I say you're a no-fight fat **** and I could kick your ass. We'll never
know. The smart money would be on me if it ever came to pass - no
bypass surgery, no stroke, and I don't fight clean.

On 10/4/2015 10:13 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

Ayup...he sure did.


Ah.... first of all you only have $150 so you can't afford to buy
enough gas to get to Sacramento, and none of your junk cars will run,
so you can't get to Sacrament even if you had $200. Secondly, you
don't dare to go out an shoot anyone. If you actually were a brave and
intrepid revolutionary you would have already done it, rather than
just talk about it.

Now you are certainly drifting into the ozone.

As I've already said, the riots in Los Angeles were spontaneous
up-risings. They demonstrate just how effective they really are. Did
Gunner and his mates go running down to Watts to join the uprising?
Did those uprisings trigger all the malcontents in California to grab
their guns and start shooting?

They were ? Funny....the start of the last set of riots were planned
and executed over some period of time. They just were of limited
scope. The Great Cull....IE the Second American Revolution....wont be
a riot by black gangsas I assure you.

Some people might hope all colors of gangstas to be some of the first
casualties of said impending revolution.

True indeed. "Cleaning the streets".

Ive been told that there are a number of people who go into the city
and troll for thugs, and when they attack, they get terminated.

Bull****. "I've been told..." - ha ha ha ha ha!

You decrepit fat ****. You don't know anyone who would tell you that.

On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

---
Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm
the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You
want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear.


And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After
threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great
Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his
bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is
nothing but a feeble old man.

You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a
stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick?

Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues,
based on this post of yours.


Gunner

What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been
prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you
stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a
stroke?

Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about?
--
cheers,

John B.