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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B.
wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner |
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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
Gunner Asch on Sun, 04 Oct 2015 22:13:35 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: They were ? Funny....the start of the last set of riots were planned and executed over some period of time. They just were of limited scope. The Great Cull....IE the Second American Revolution....wont be a riot by black gangsas I assure you. Some people might hope all colors of gangstas to be some of the first casualties of said impending revolution. True indeed. "Cleaning the streets". Ive been told that there are a number of people who go into the city and troll for thugs, and when they attack, they get terminated. Now I think thats a bit unecessary..but it does tend to thin out the worst ones. Everybody has their hobby. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
On 10/5/2015 7:54 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? You claim it *is* going to happen, but you've been claiming it was going to happen "soon" - imminently - for the last 10 years, and of course, it hasn't. And of course...it *won't*. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Apparently your memory is so ****ed up you don't realize you're only going to turn 62 next month, not 63. Your birthday is November 11, 1953. You will turn 62 next month, not 63, you stupid demented ****tard. https://www.facebook.com/GunnerAsch/...8%3A1444103279 I'm a year older than you, and I don't consider myself old. I'm not young, either, but I'm not old and broken as you are. Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? No. |
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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 20:49:35 -0700, Kevin Casey
wrote: On 10/5/2015 7:54 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? You claim it *is* going to happen, but you've been claiming it was going to happen "soon" - imminently - for the last 10 years, and of course, it hasn't. And of course...it *won't*. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Apparently your memory is so ****ed up you don't realize you're only going to turn 62 next month, not 63. Your birthday is November 11, 1953. You will turn 62 next month, not 63, you stupid demented ****tard. https://www.facebook.com/GunnerAsch/...8%3A1444103279 I'm a year older than you, and I don't consider myself old. I'm not young, either, but I'm not old and broken as you are. Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? No. Well, to be fair, he said definitely by 2012. But Gunner hasn't bought a new calendar since 1998. -- Ed Huntress |
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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). -- cheers, John B. |
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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B.
wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen then, which I clearly stated at that time. But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the long..long list of such events in history that I posted. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago. Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand sticks in my mind. http://list25.com/25-most-violent-military-coups/2/ The US of course has only had (2)..and neither were military coups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...and_rebellions http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-most-n...evolutions.php Im really...really interested in the reasons you and your leftist buddies think that such a thing is "impossible" inside the US. Post reasons for your bleeves. I dont believe we would ever have a military coup..though Ive been wrong before. |
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On 10/6/2015 1:11 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. You said it was going to happen *every* year since at least as far back as 2007. But....shrug..it will happen. It won't happen, you nutless car-less truck-less retarded cripple. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year. Not here, liar. |
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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 13:11:48 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen then, which I clearly stated at that time. But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the long..long list of such events in history that I posted. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago. Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand sticks in my mind. Well I can't speak for a foreign newspaper's interpretation, Hell! I just live here. But I saw nothing to indicate any revolution. The Army simply walked in the door and took over. No shooting or anything else. The TV didn't seem to be working that morning but about lunch time it came back on and an announcement was made that the Army was running things. No guns were fired, no bodies in the street, no politicians lined up and executed. The stores remained open, the busses kept running, no crowds in the streets. Nothing. If that is your idea of a revolution then I can only say that you have very strange ideas. -- cheers, John B. |
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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:39:35 +0700, John B.
wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 13:11:48 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen then, which I clearly stated at that time. But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the long..long list of such events in history that I posted. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago. Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand sticks in my mind. Well I can't speak for a foreign newspaper's interpretation, Hell! I just live here. But I saw nothing to indicate any revolution. The Army simply walked in the door and took over. No shooting or anything else. The TV didn't seem to be working that morning but about lunch time it came back on and an announcement was made that the Army was running things. No guns were fired, no bodies in the street, no politicians lined up and executed. The stores remained open, the busses kept running, no crowds in the streets. Nothing. If that is your idea of a revolution then I can only say that you have very strange ideas. So if a person, heavily armed enters your home and states its now his, in a nice tone of voice..but mentions that if you argue with him he will shoot you....its really not a crime? Fascinating...absolutely fascinating |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 00:14:47 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:39:35 +0700, John B. wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 13:11:48 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen then, which I clearly stated at that time. But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the long..long list of such events in history that I posted. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago. Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand sticks in my mind. Well I can't speak for a foreign newspaper's interpretation, Hell! I just live here. But I saw nothing to indicate any revolution. The Army simply walked in the door and took over. No shooting or anything else. The TV didn't seem to be working that morning but about lunch time it came back on and an announcement was made that the Army was running things. No guns were fired, no bodies in the street, no politicians lined up and executed. The stores remained open, the busses kept running, no crowds in the streets. Nothing. If that is your idea of a revolution then I can only say that you have very strange ideas. So if a person, heavily armed enters your home and states its now his, in a nice tone of voice..but mentions that if you argue with him he will shoot you....its really not a crime? Fascinating...absolutely fascinating What is fascinating is how you can slither and squirm all around the subject and never even come close. We were talking about revolutions and I said that Thailand hadn't had a revolution in the last 100 years. You than countered with a description from the Washington Post trying to call it a revolution and I said that I was right here in the city and I didn't see any revolution. Now you are going on about some house breaker. I hate to be the one to tell you but a burglar coming in the door does not mean that there is a revolution in your front room. -- cheers, John B. |
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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:30:33 +0700, John B.
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 00:14:47 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:39:35 +0700, John B. wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 13:11:48 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen then, which I clearly stated at that time. But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the long..long list of such events in history that I posted. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago. Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand sticks in my mind. Well I can't speak for a foreign newspaper's interpretation, Hell! I just live here. But I saw nothing to indicate any revolution. The Army simply walked in the door and took over. No shooting or anything else. The TV didn't seem to be working that morning but about lunch time it came back on and an announcement was made that the Army was running things. No guns were fired, no bodies in the street, no politicians lined up and executed. The stores remained open, the busses kept running, no crowds in the streets. Nothing. If that is your idea of a revolution then I can only say that you have very strange ideas. So if a person, heavily armed enters your home and states its now his, in a nice tone of voice..but mentions that if you argue with him he will shoot you....its really not a crime? Fascinating...absolutely fascinating What is fascinating is how you can slither and squirm all around the subject and never even come close. Slither around what subject? We were talking about revolutions and I said that Thailand hadn't had a revolution in the last 100 years. You than countered with a description from the Washington Post trying to call it a revolution and I said that I was right here in the city and I didn't see any revolution. Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"? Id have to say you were either stupid...or insane Now you are going on about some house breaker. Pishposh...dont tell us you are THAT stupid....geeze dude! I hate to be the one to tell you but a burglar coming in the door does not mean that there is a revolution in your front room. Tsk tsk....and you pull a richshaw on Tudo Street for a living? Come now laddy....sure you arent that simple minded? Say it isnt so!! |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 05:02:26 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:30:33 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 00:14:47 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:39:35 +0700, John B. wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 13:11:48 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen then, which I clearly stated at that time. But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the long..long list of such events in history that I posted. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago. Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand sticks in my mind. Well I can't speak for a foreign newspaper's interpretation, Hell! I just live here. But I saw nothing to indicate any revolution. The Army simply walked in the door and took over. No shooting or anything else. The TV didn't seem to be working that morning but about lunch time it came back on and an announcement was made that the Army was running things. No guns were fired, no bodies in the street, no politicians lined up and executed. The stores remained open, the busses kept running, no crowds in the streets. Nothing. If that is your idea of a revolution then I can only say that you have very strange ideas. So if a person, heavily armed enters your home and states its now his, in a nice tone of voice..but mentions that if you argue with him he will shoot you....its really not a crime? Fascinating...absolutely fascinating What is fascinating is how you can slither and squirm all around the subject and never even come close. Slither around what subject? We were talking about revolutions and I said that Thailand hadn't had a revolution in the last 100 years. You than countered with a description from the Washington Post trying to call it a revolution and I said that I was right here in the city and I didn't see any revolution. Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"? Id have to say you were either stupid...or insane Now you are going on about some house breaker. Pishposh...dont tell us you are THAT stupid....geeze dude! I hate to be the one to tell you but a burglar coming in the door does not mean that there is a revolution in your front room. Tsk tsk....and you pull a richshaw on Tudo Street for a living? Come now laddy....sure you arent that simple minded? Say it isnt so!! Gunner, you're calling coups d'état "revolutions," as if they're the same thing. Sometimes they are, but mostly they're not. Mostly they're just a bunch of military officers deciding that they don't like the current prime minister or whatever, and that they -- the military -- just aren't getting enough of the spoils of corruption. They want more. That's not a revolution. That's just one mob pushing another mob out of the picture, so they can run the show and pocket the cash. -- Ed Huntress |
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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
On 10/7/2015 12:14 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:39:35 +0700, John B. wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 13:11:48 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen then, which I clearly stated at that time. But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the long..long list of such events in history that I posted. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research LOL! Ha ha ha ha ha! gummer's "research" - holy mother of ****, that's just ****ing hilarious! I did inicated there was another one last year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago. Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand sticks in my mind. Well I can't speak for a foreign newspaper's interpretation, Hell! I just live here. But I saw nothing to indicate any revolution. The Army simply walked in the door and took over. No shooting or anything else. The TV didn't seem to be working that morning but about lunch time it came back on and an announcement was made that the Army was running things. No guns were fired, no bodies in the street, no politicians lined up and executed. The stores remained open, the busses kept running, no crowds in the streets. Nothing. If that is your idea of a revolution then I can only say that you have very strange ideas. So if a person, heavily armed enters your home and states its now his, in a nice tone of voice..but mentions that if you argue with him he will shoot you....its really not a crime? Nothing to do with your long-promised-never-seen "great cull", you stupid nutless car-less truck-less *work-less* squat-to-**** ****. There is no "cull" impending. There is no "list" of those to be "culled". There is no "those who keep the list", and even if there were, you would have *ZERO* connection to them. There's just you running your stupid lying ignorant yap and fingering your HIV-oozing asshole, swigging that camel-**** Mountain Dew and waiting for your next meth score. Why do methheads just love Mountain Dew, anyway? |
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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
On 10/7/2015 5:02 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:30:33 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 00:14:47 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:39:35 +0700, John B. wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 13:11:48 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen then, which I clearly stated at that time. But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the long..long list of such events in history that I posted. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago. Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand sticks in my mind. Well I can't speak for a foreign newspaper's interpretation, Hell! I just live here. But I saw nothing to indicate any revolution. The Army simply walked in the door and took over. No shooting or anything else. The TV didn't seem to be working that morning but about lunch time it came back on and an announcement was made that the Army was running things. No guns were fired, no bodies in the street, no politicians lined up and executed. The stores remained open, the busses kept running, no crowds in the streets. Nothing. If that is your idea of a revolution then I can only say that you have very strange ideas. So if a person, heavily armed enters your home and states its now his, in a nice tone of voice..but mentions that if you argue with him he will shoot you....its really not a crime? Fascinating...absolutely fascinating What is fascinating is how you can slither and squirm all around the subject and never even come close. Slither around what subject? Your risible "great cull", you dumb ****wit. Have you really gone that bad with the meth addiction? We were talking about revolutions and I said that Thailand hadn't had a revolution in the last 100 years. You than countered with a description from the Washington Post trying to call it a revolution and I said that I was right here in the city and I didn't see any revolution. Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"? They haven't had a *single* "revolution", you stupid nutless car-less truckless *work-less* ****. They've had a bunch of coups. Those aren't revolutions, ****worm. Now you are going on about some house breaker. Pishposh...dont tell us you are THAT stupid You're the one who bizarrely started yammering about house breakers, you dumb ****. |
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RINO John Boehner, House Speaker, Will Resign From Congress
On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 05:02:26 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:30:33 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 00:14:47 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:39:35 +0700, John B. wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 13:11:48 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen then, which I clearly stated at that time. But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the long..long list of such events in history that I posted. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago. Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand sticks in my mind. Well I can't speak for a foreign newspaper's interpretation, Hell! I just live here. But I saw nothing to indicate any revolution. The Army simply walked in the door and took over. No shooting or anything else. The TV didn't seem to be working that morning but about lunch time it came back on and an announcement was made that the Army was running things. No guns were fired, no bodies in the street, no politicians lined up and executed. The stores remained open, the busses kept running, no crowds in the streets. Nothing. If that is your idea of a revolution then I can only say that you have very strange ideas. So if a person, heavily armed enters your home and states its now his, in a nice tone of voice..but mentions that if you argue with him he will shoot you....its really not a crime? Fascinating...absolutely fascinating What is fascinating is how you can slither and squirm all around the subject and never even come close. Slither around what subject? We were talking about revolutions and I said that Thailand hadn't had a revolution in the last 100 years. You than countered with a description from the Washington Post trying to call it a revolution and I said that I was right here in the city and I didn't see any revolution. Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"? I can only assume that your understanding of the English language is very limited, or you are just arguing to try and disguise the fact that you don't know what you are talking about. You can, or course call an elephant a mouse, if you want to. Of curse it makes you look stupid and you'll have to haul a great deal more fodder to feed your "mouse", but it is a free country. Id have to say you were either stupid...or insane Now you are going on about some house breaker. Pishposh...dont tell us you are THAT stupid....geeze dude! I hate to be the one to tell you but a burglar coming in the door does not mean that there is a revolution in your front room. Tsk tsk....and you pull a richshaw on Tudo Street for a living? And yet another example of Gunner's astonishing knowledge of the world. "Tudo Street" was in Saigon, South Vietnam (it no longer exists) while I reside in Bangkok, Thailand, some 700 Km. away and on the other side of Cambodia. Sort of like confusing Bakersfield with Phoenix. Come now laddy....sure you arent that simple minded? Say it isnt so!! Perhaps "Gunner" should be pronounced "Dummy". -- cheers, John B. |
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On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 08:25:09 +0700, John B.
wrote: Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"? I can only assume that your understanding of the English language is very limited, or you are just arguing to try and disguise the fact that you don't know what you are talking about. Take it up with the Washington Post...hardly a "rightwing" news organization is it....? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 20:20:59 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 08:25:09 +0700, John B. wrote: Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"? I can only assume that your understanding of the English language is very limited, or you are just arguing to try and disguise the fact that you don't know what you are talking about. Take it up with the Washington Post...hardly a "rightwing" news organization is it....? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ As I said, I take little notice of what foreign news sources say as in most cases that have their own agenda which they promote regardless of the truth. But as I said, if you want to call an elephant a mouse it is a free country. Of curse you have to haul in a of fodder and haul out a lot of ****, but go ahead, Regardless of how stupid it makes you look. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:48:40 +0700, John B.
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 20:20:59 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 08:25:09 +0700, John B. wrote: Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"? I can only assume that your understanding of the English language is very limited, or you are just arguing to try and disguise the fact that you don't know what you are talking about. Take it up with the Washington Post...hardly a "rightwing" news organization is it....? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ As I said, I take little notice of what foreign news sources say as in most cases that have their own agenda which they promote regardless of the truth. So you are claiming that the WP is lying? But as I said, if you want to call an elephant a mouse it is a free country. Of curse you have to haul in a of fodder and haul out a lot of ****, but go ahead, Regardless of how stupid it makes you look. So my disproving your statement "that there were no such events in Thailand" with cites for 11 of them...makes ME? look stupid Think again, John. Think again. |
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On 10/7/2015 6:25 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 05:02:26 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:30:33 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 00:14:47 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:39:35 +0700, John B. wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 13:11:48 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen then, which I clearly stated at that time. But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the long..long list of such events in history that I posted. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago. Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand sticks in my mind. Well I can't speak for a foreign newspaper's interpretation, Hell! I just live here. But I saw nothing to indicate any revolution. The Army simply walked in the door and took over. No shooting or anything else. The TV didn't seem to be working that morning but about lunch time it came back on and an announcement was made that the Army was running things. No guns were fired, no bodies in the street, no politicians lined up and executed. The stores remained open, the busses kept running, no crowds in the streets. Nothing. If that is your idea of a revolution then I can only say that you have very strange ideas. So if a person, heavily armed enters your home and states its now his, in a nice tone of voice..but mentions that if you argue with him he will shoot you....its really not a crime? Fascinating...absolutely fascinating What is fascinating is how you can slither and squirm all around the subject and never even come close. Slither around what subject? We were talking about revolutions and I said that Thailand hadn't had a revolution in the last 100 years. You than countered with a description from the Washington Post trying to call it a revolution and I said that I was right here in the city and I didn't see any revolution. Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"? I can only assume that your understanding of the English language is very limited, or you are just arguing to try and disguise the fact that you don't know what you are talking about. You can, or course call an elephant a mouse, if you want to. Of curse it makes you look stupid and you'll have to haul a great deal more fodder to feed your "mouse", but it is a free country. Id have to say you were either stupid...or insane Now you are going on about some house breaker. Pishposh...dont tell us you are THAT stupid....geeze dude! I hate to be the one to tell you but a burglar coming in the door does not mean that there is a revolution in your front room. Tsk tsk....and you pull a richshaw on Tudo Street for a living? And yet another example of Gunner's astonishing knowledge of the world. "Tudo Street" was in Saigon, South Vietnam (it no longer exists) while I reside in Bangkok, Thailand, some 700 Km. away and on the other side of Cambodia. Sort of like confusing Bakersfield with Phoenix. gummer *has* confused Taft (elev. 955) with Palmdale (elev. 2612). He said that Taft is the "high desert." Come now laddy....sure you arent that simple minded? Say it isnt so!! Perhaps "Gunner" should be pronounced "Dummy". That would be much closer to reality, as his name actually is gummer. You see, he has no teeth. |
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On 10/7/2015 8:20 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 08:25:09 +0700, John B. wrote: Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"? I can only assume that your understanding of the English language is very limited, or you are just arguing to try and disguise the fact that you don't know what you are talking about. Take it up with the Washington Post...hardly a "rightwing" news organization is it....? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ "Thailand’s army just announced a *coup*. Here are 11 other Thai *coups* since 1932." [emphasis added for non-native English speakers] So, English really isn't your native tongue, is it? A coup d'état is not a revolution, you ****wit. But thanks for confirming that what you have been advocating all along is not a popular conservative uprising, but a military takeover. Of course, we all knew that already. |
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On 10/8/2015 4:53 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:48:40 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 20:20:59 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 08:25:09 +0700, John B. wrote: Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"? I can only assume that your understanding of the English language is very limited, or you are just arguing to try and disguise the fact that you don't know what you are talking about. Take it up with the Washington Post...hardly a "rightwing" news organization is it....? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ As I said, I take little notice of what foreign news sources say as in most cases that have their own agenda which they promote regardless of the truth. So you are claiming that the WP is lying? They're not lying, you ****wit. The Post story doesn't support your claim. You said there were "revolutions". John pointed out to you, correctly, that there have been coups but no revolutions. A coup d'état is not a revolution. But as I said earlier, you never were advocating for a popular conservative uprising; you have always been advocating a military coup d'état. That is calling for the violent overthrow of the U.S. government, and it is illegal for you to do so. But as I said, if you want to call an elephant a mouse it is a free country. Of curse you have to haul in a of fodder and haul out a lot of ****, but go ahead, Regardless of how stupid it makes you look. So my disproving your statement "that there were no such events in Thailand" He never said that. That's not a quote; it's a fabrication. with cites for 11 of them...makes ME? look stupid Your calling a coup d'état a "revolution" does, indeed, make you look stupid. But you *are* stupid, so you *LOOK* stupid all the time. -- Any serious look at the history of human beings over the millennia shows that the species began in poverty. It is not poverty, but prosperity, that needs explaining. Poverty is automatic, but prosperity requires many things -- none of which is equally distributed around the world or even within a given society. Thomas Sowell |
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Well I grew up in a high desert - El Paso. Check out that one.
And how high must it be to be high ? Death Valley is close by and it is a hole in the ground. Lowest place in the country.... So things are relative to what is near by. And Palm Springs isn't next door by any means. Been there seen it myself. Martin On 10/8/2015 9:09 AM, Charles Koch wrote: On 10/7/2015 6:25 PM, John B. wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 05:02:26 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:30:33 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 00:14:47 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:39:35 +0700, John B. wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 13:11:48 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:27:36 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:23:53 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:38:40 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:43:09 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:08:59 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:58:37 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:00:38 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 09:32:42 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:29:15 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:22:23 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:11:49 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:45:18 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:35:05 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party. Dan At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And good riddance!! I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood" One can only hope so. -- "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress. What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt. Dan It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by the DNC and their RINO compatriots. Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off over 200 million people. Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now. One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the other 51% are Democrats and "Others". It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned. By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely, especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks and join the revolution. --- Ed Huntress Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in reality. Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three (I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what did I know, I just carried a gun". I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the government. The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and Los Angeles, for example, But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream. I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis XVI would have to say about those claims? Or maybe...some of these people.... Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland. Yes and? Revolution is revolution. Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution under the leadership of Joe Blow..." Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line. And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning for one?..or planning one? You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here.... Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed. But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere. You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the Governor. Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be involved in something like this? Im old. Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed! Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear. And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is nothing but a feeble old man. You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick? Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues, based on this post of yours. Gunner What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a stroke? The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your claim? Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year. Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will ever happen. 3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen then, which I clearly stated at that time. But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the long..long list of such events in history that I posted. Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And? Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about? Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I recall. Gunner Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem (who was Prime Minister at the time). Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/ I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago. Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand sticks in my mind. Well I can't speak for a foreign newspaper's interpretation, Hell! I just live here. But I saw nothing to indicate any revolution. The Army simply walked in the door and took over. No shooting or anything else. The TV didn't seem to be working that morning but about lunch time it came back on and an announcement was made that the Army was running things. No guns were fired, no bodies in the street, no politicians lined up and executed. The stores remained open, the busses kept running, no crowds in the streets. Nothing. If that is your idea of a revolution then I can only say that you have very strange ideas. So if a person, heavily armed enters your home and states its now his, in a nice tone of voice..but mentions that if you argue with him he will shoot you....its really not a crime? Fascinating...absolutely fascinating What is fascinating is how you can slither and squirm all around the subject and never even come close. Slither around what subject? We were talking about revolutions and I said that Thailand hadn't had a revolution in the last 100 years. You than countered with a description from the Washington Post trying to call it a revolution and I said that I was right here in the city and I didn't see any revolution. Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"? I can only assume that your understanding of the English language is very limited, or you are just arguing to try and disguise the fact that you don't know what you are talking about. You can, or course call an elephant a mouse, if you want to. Of curse it makes you look stupid and you'll have to haul a great deal more fodder to feed your "mouse", but it is a free country. Id have to say you were either stupid...or insane Now you are going on about some house breaker. Pishposh...dont tell us you are THAT stupid....geeze dude! I hate to be the one to tell you but a burglar coming in the door does not mean that there is a revolution in your front room. Tsk tsk....and you pull a richshaw on Tudo Street for a living? And yet another example of Gunner's astonishing knowledge of the world. "Tudo Street" was in Saigon, South Vietnam (it no longer exists) while I reside in Bangkok, Thailand, some 700 Km. away and on the other side of Cambodia. Sort of like confusing Bakersfield with Phoenix. gummer *has* confused Taft (elev. 955) with Palmdale (elev. 2612). He said that Taft is the "high desert." Come now laddy....sure you arent that simple minded? Say it isnt so!! Perhaps "Gunner" should be pronounced "Dummy". 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