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https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. |
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. |
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag. Good catch! I never remember which symbol is which. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag. Good catch! I never remember which symbol is which. I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is on and 0 is off. I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches, which I never noticed before. |
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 17:37:14 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag. Good catch! I never remember which symbol is which. I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is on and 0 is off. I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches, which I never noticed before. I always figured it was a Euro or Asian thingy that came ashore by accident Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated :
Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag. Good catch! I never remember which symbol is which. I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is on and 0 is off. I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches, which I never noticed before. Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA. Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world. I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the engine. -- John G Sydney. |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 09:13:20 +1100, John G wrote:
It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated : Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag. Good catch! I never remember which symbol is which. I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is on and 0 is off. I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches, which I never noticed before. Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA. Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world. I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the engine. It is most definitely NOT a 2 stroke, if you look you can see it is an overhead valve engine. (most definitely 4 stroke) |
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John G wrote:
It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated : Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag. Good catch! I never remember which symbol is which. I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is on and 0 is off. I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches, which I never noticed before. Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA. It is pretty sweet to not have to worry about car bombings, getting kidnapped, or catching malaria, air you can see though. Clean water and freedom of speech are pretty spiffy perks too. Other places have had had thousands of years to get their acts together and utterly failed. No need to copy what they're doing wrong. Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world. I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the engine. |
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John G wrote:
It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated : Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag. Good catch! I never remember which symbol is which. I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is on and 0 is off. I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches, which I never noticed before. Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA. Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world. I did a quick jog around work to look for any toggle switches in a vertical position and found everything has on pressed in at the top. Most of the stuff is probably designed in the US - Fridigaire refrigerator (commercial-ish unit so it has switches for some reason) - Cisco network gear, various models - Thinklogical terminal servers - Xerox printer/copier/whatever, I think the develop these in Japan - Bloomfield coffee machine, momentary brew toggle switch has to be pushed in at the top - Compucable KVM switches All of these except the coffee machine have the generic 0 1 legends which could be flipped over, unlike the Arrow switch with actual words on it. |
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Cydrome Leader presented the following explanation :
John G wrote: It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated : Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag. Good catch! I never remember which symbol is which. I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is on and 0 is off. I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches, which I never noticed before. Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA. It is pretty sweet to not have to worry about car bombings, getting kidnapped, or catching malaria, air you can see though. Clean water and freedom of speech are pretty spiffy perks too. Other places have had had thousands of years to get their acts together and utterly failed. No need to copy what they're doing wrong. We have not had a car bomb in years, very little kidnapping, NO Maleria clean air, clean wate, freedom of speech and One TENTH the number of firearm related deaths as the USA :-@ Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world. I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the engine. -- John G Sydney. |
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John G fired this volley in
: We have not had a car bomb in years, very little kidnapping, NO Maleria clean air, clean wate, freedom of speech and One TENTH the number of firearm related deaths as the USA :-@ Yeah, there they just burn cars, and bludgen or stab people to death. Keep in mind that your population vs. the US population matches the crime death ratio. Lloyd |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:18:49 +1100, John G wrote:
used his keyboard to write : On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 09:13:20 +1100, John G wrote: It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated : Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag. Good catch! I never remember which symbol is which. I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is on and 0 is off. I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches, which I never noticed before. Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA. Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world. I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the engine. It is most definitely NOT a 2 stroke, if you look you can see it is an overhead valve engine. (most definitely 4 stroke) 2 stroke, 4 stroke OK it proably has similar ignition and just needs a short circuit to stop it. Like virtually every magneto ignition system since the late 1800s. |
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh formulated the question :
John G fired this volley in : We have not had a car bomb in years, very little kidnapping, NO Maleria clean air, clean wate, freedom of speech and One TENTH the number of firearm related deaths as the USA :-@ Yeah, there they just burn cars, and bludgen or stab people to death. Cite Please B-) Keep in mind that your population vs. the US population matches the crime death ratio. Australia 0.86 per 100,000 population (2011) USA 10.3 per 100,000 population (2011) Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-? -- John G Sydney. |
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Cydrome Leader has brought this to us :
John G wrote: It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated : Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag. Good catch! I never remember which symbol is which. I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is on and 0 is off. I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches, which I never noticed before. Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA. Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world. I did a quick jog around work to look for any toggle switches in a vertical position and found everything has on pressed in at the top. Most of the stuff is probably designed in the US I rest my case :-Z - Fridigaire refrigerator (commercial-ish unit so it has switches for some reason) - Cisco network gear, various models - Thinklogical terminal servers - Xerox printer/copier/whatever, I think the develop these in Japan - Bloomfield coffee machine, momentary brew toggle switch has to be pushed in at the top - Compucable KVM switches All of these except the coffee machine have the generic 0 1 legends which could be flipped over, unlike the Arrow switch with actual words on it. -- John G Sydney. |
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: Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-? "Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people. Always have, always will. Lloyd |
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh has brought this to us :
John G fired this volley in : Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-? "Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people. Always have, always will. So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and other countries of the "Western World" Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but thats nothing to be proud of. B-) -- John G Sydney. |
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John G wrote:
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh has brought this to us : John G fired this volley in : Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-? "Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people. Always have, always will. So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and other countries of the "Western World" Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but thats nothing to be proud of. B-) His point is that guns aren't the only thing used to kill people and OVERALL MURDER RATES are the proper comparison . -- Snag |
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Terry Coombs submitted this idea :
John G wrote: Lloyd E. Sponenburgh has brought this to us : John G fired this volley in : Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-? "Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people. Always have, always will. So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and other countries of the "Western World" Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but thats nothing to be proud of. B-) His point is that guns aren't the only thing used to kill people and OVERALL MURDER RATES are the proper comparison . Even straight out Murder Rates USA is 4.7 per 100,000 While Australia is 1.1 per 100,000 So whatever he tries to say nothing justifies the USA Gun laws supported by a bunch of Red Neck fools. :-? -- John G Sydney. |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:15:54 +1100, John G wrote:
Cydrome Leader presented the following explanation : John G wrote: It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated : Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit. love the upside down power switch. ??? It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion its in now..it is indeed in the Run position. Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out the magneto like a kill switch. Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag. Good catch! I never remember which symbol is which. I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is on and 0 is off. I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches, which I never noticed before. Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA. It is pretty sweet to not have to worry about car bombings, getting kidnapped, or catching malaria, air you can see though. Clean water and freedom of speech are pretty spiffy perks too. Other places have had had thousands of years to get their acts together and utterly failed. No need to copy what they're doing wrong. We have not had a car bomb in years, very little kidnapping, NO Maleria clean air, clean wate, freedom of speech and One TENTH the number of firearm related deaths as the USA :-@ Actually that is the only crime rate that is higher in the US You lads rank us nicely in Assaults, hot burglaries and other similar crimes. And it should be noted that if one simply removes the black gun crimes...ours is within a percentage point or so of yours. Yet we have nearly 400 MILLION arms in our citizens hands (Grin) But we love you lads nontheless, helpless as you may be. (VBG) Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world. I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the engine. "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:49:19 +1100, John G wrote:
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh formulated the question : John G fired this volley in : We have not had a car bomb in years, very little kidnapping, NO Maleria clean air, clean wate, freedom of speech and One TENTH the number of firearm related deaths as the USA :-@ Yeah, there they just burn cars, and bludgen or stab people to death. Cite Please B-) Keep in mind that your population vs. the US population matches the crime death ratio. Australia 0.86 per 100,000 population (2011) USA 10.3 per 100,000 population (2011) Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-? Sorry Johnny..I rather thought you were English. My mistake https://www.theobjectivestandard.com...and-the-cause/ "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:08:52 +1100, John G wrote:
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh has brought this to us : John G fired this volley in : Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-? "Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people. Always have, always will. So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and other countries of the "Western World" SOME other countries of the Western World Perhaps you havent seen this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=7168 Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but thats nothing to be proud of. B-) https://www.theobjectivestandard.com...and-the-cause/ Perhaps we could interest you in our black prison population? It would significantly add to your population (at least for a few years until the bloodshed starts) and we could close over half of our prisons Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:43:33 +1100, John G wrote:
Terry Coombs submitted this idea : John G wrote: Lloyd E. Sponenburgh has brought this to us : John G fired this volley in : Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-? "Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people. Always have, always will. So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and other countries of the "Western World" Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but thats nothing to be proud of. B-) His point is that guns aren't the only thing used to kill people and OVERALL MURDER RATES are the proper comparison . Even straight out Murder Rates USA is 4.7 per 100,000 While Australia is 1.1 per 100,000 So whatever he tries to say nothing justifies the USA Gun laws supported by a bunch of Red Neck fools. :-? Actually lad..without the guns here in the US..our homicide rates would look like those of Honduras...and south america..where private ownership of firearms is illegal/banned Our firearms are used more to defend ourselves from the criminals than the reverse. Sure we couldnt send you say..20 million blacks? Those pesky felony records would blend right in with the history of Oz...right? Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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Posted pics of the Honda Clone genset
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:00:12 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: John G fired this volley in : Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-? "Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people. Always have, always will. Lloyd Why even worry about it. Firearm homicide in the U.S. is about 1/4 the number killed by the automobile. -- Cheers, John B. |
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Posted pics of the Honda Clone genset
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:43:33 +1100, John G wrote:
Terry Coombs submitted this idea : John G wrote: Lloyd E. Sponenburgh has brought this to us : John G fired this volley in : Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-? "Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people. Always have, always will. So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and other countries of the "Western World" Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but thats nothing to be proud of. B-) His point is that guns aren't the only thing used to kill people and OVERALL MURDER RATES are the proper comparison . Even straight out Murder Rates USA is 4.7 per 100,000 While Australia is 1.1 per 100,000 So whatever he tries to say nothing justifies the USA Gun laws supported by a bunch of Red Neck fools. :-? Err... actually the "USA Gun Laws" are supported by the U.S. Constitution and the amending "Bill of Rights". -- Cheers, John B. |
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