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Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

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https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.


love the upside down power switch.


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Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.


love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
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Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.


love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.


Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a
pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out
the magneto like a kill switch.


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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.


Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a
pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out
the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.


Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
PJ O'Rourke


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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.


Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a
pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out
the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.


I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is
on and 0 is off.

I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of
surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom
pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches,
which I never noticed before.




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On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 17:37:14 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.

Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a
pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out
the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.


I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is
on and 0 is off.

I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of
surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom
pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches,
which I never noticed before.


I always figured it was a Euro or Asian thingy that came ashore by
accident

Gunner





"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.

Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a
pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out
the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.


I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is
on and 0 is off.


I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of
surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom
pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches,
which I never noticed before.


Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA.

Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world.

I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be
caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke
engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the
engine.

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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 09:13:20 +1100, John G wrote:

It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated :
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.

Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a
pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out
the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.


I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is
on and 0 is off.


I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of
surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom
pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches,
which I never noticed before.


Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA.

Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world.

I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be
caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke
engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the
engine.

It is most definitely NOT a 2 stroke, if you look you can see it is
an overhead valve engine. (most definitely 4 stroke)
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John G wrote:
It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated :
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.

Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a
pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out
the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.


I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is
on and 0 is off.


I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of
surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom
pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches,
which I never noticed before.


Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA.


It is pretty sweet to not have to worry about car bombings, getting
kidnapped, or catching malaria, air you can see though. Clean water and
freedom of speech are pretty spiffy perks too. Other places have had had
thousands of years to get their acts together and utterly failed. No need
to copy what they're doing wrong.

Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world.

I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be
caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke
engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the
engine.



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John G wrote:
It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated :
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.

Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's a
pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts out
the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.


I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is
on and 0 is off.


I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of
surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom
pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches,
which I never noticed before.


Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA.

Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world.


I did a quick jog around work to look for any toggle switches in a
vertical position and found everything has on pressed in at the top. Most
of the stuff is probably designed in the US

- Fridigaire refrigerator (commercial-ish unit so it has switches for some
reason)
- Cisco network gear, various models
- Thinklogical terminal servers
- Xerox printer/copier/whatever, I think the develop these in Japan
- Bloomfield coffee machine, momentary brew toggle switch has to be pushed
in at the top
- Compucable KVM switches

All of these except the coffee machine have the generic 0 1 legends which
could be flipped over, unlike the Arrow switch with actual words on it.


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John G wrote:
It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated :
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.

Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's
a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts
out the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.
I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is
on and 0 is off.


I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of
surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom
pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches,
which I never noticed before.


Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA.


It is pretty sweet to not have to worry about car bombings, getting
kidnapped, or catching malaria, air you can see though. Clean water and
freedom of speech are pretty spiffy perks too. Other places have had had
thousands of years to get their acts together and utterly failed. No need
to copy what they're doing wrong.


We have not had a car bomb in years, very little kidnapping, NO Maleria
clean air, clean wate, freedom of speech and One TENTH the number of
firearm related deaths as the USA :-@

Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world.

I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be
caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke
engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the
engine.


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It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated :
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.

Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's
a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts
out the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.
I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is
on and 0 is off.


I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of
surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom
pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches,
which I never noticed before.


Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA.

Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world.

I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be
caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke
engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the
engine.

It is most definitely NOT a 2 stroke, if you look you can see it is
an overhead valve engine. (most definitely 4 stroke)


2 stroke, 4 stroke OK it proably has similar ignition and just needs a
short circuit to stop it.

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We have not had a car bomb in years, very little kidnapping, NO Maleria
clean air, clean wate, freedom of speech and One TENTH the number of
firearm related deaths as the USA :-@


Yeah, there they just burn cars, and bludgen or stab people to death.

Keep in mind that your population vs. the US population matches the crime
death ratio.

Lloyd
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 09:13:20 +1100, John G wrote:


It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated :
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.

Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's
a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts
out the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.
I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is
on and 0 is off.

I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of
surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom
pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches,
which I never noticed before.

Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA.

Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world.

I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be
caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke
engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the
engine.

It is most definitely NOT a 2 stroke, if you look you can see it is
an overhead valve engine. (most definitely 4 stroke)


2 stroke, 4 stroke OK it proably has similar ignition and just needs a
short circuit to stop it.

Like virtually every magneto ignition system since the late 1800s.


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We have not had a car bomb in years, very little kidnapping, NO Maleria
clean air, clean wate, freedom of speech and One TENTH the number of
firearm related deaths as the USA :-@


Yeah, there they just burn cars, and bludgen or stab people to death.

Cite Please B-)

Keep in mind that your population vs. the US population matches the crime
death ratio.

Australia 0.86 per 100,000 population (2011)
USA 10.3 per 100,000 population (2011)
Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country
Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-?

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John G wrote:
It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated :
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.

Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's
a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts
out the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.
I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is
on and 0 is off.


I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of
surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom
pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches,
which I never noticed before.


Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA.

Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world.


I did a quick jog around work to look for any toggle switches in a
vertical position and found everything has on pressed in at the top. Most
of the stuff is probably designed in the US


I rest my case :-Z

- Fridigaire refrigerator (commercial-ish unit so it has switches for some
reason)
- Cisco network gear, various models
- Thinklogical terminal servers
- Xerox printer/copier/whatever, I think the develop these in Japan
- Bloomfield coffee machine, momentary brew toggle switch has to be pushed
in at the top
- Compucable KVM switches


All of these except the coffee machine have the generic 0 1 legends which
could be flipped over, unlike the Arrow switch with actual words on it.


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Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country
Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-?


"Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a
false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like
immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people.

Always have, always will.

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Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country
Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-?


"Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a
false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like
immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people.


Always have, always will.



So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and
other countries of the "Western World"
Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but thats
nothing to be proud of. B-)

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Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country
Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-?


"Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence".
It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent
weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available
to kill people.


Always have, always will.



So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and
other countries of the "Western World"
Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but
thats nothing to be proud of. B-)


His point is that guns aren't the only thing used to kill people and
OVERALL MURDER RATES are the proper comparison .

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Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country
Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-?


"Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence".
It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent
weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available
to kill people.


Always have, always will.



So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and
other countries of the "Western World"
Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but
thats nothing to be proud of. B-)


His point is that guns aren't the only thing used to kill people and
OVERALL MURDER RATES are the proper comparison .


Even straight out Murder Rates USA is 4.7 per 100,000
While Australia is 1.1 per 100,000
So whatever he tries to say nothing justifies the USA Gun laws
supported by a bunch of Red Neck fools. :-?

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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:15:54 +1100, John G wrote:

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John G wrote:
It happens that Cydrome Leader formulated :
Gunner Asch wrote:
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Gunner Asch wrote:
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Gunner Asch wrote:


https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Clone_Genset

Need any others let me know. And yeah..Ill clean it up a bit.

love the upside down power switch.

???

It works properly despite any issues with the markings. In the postion
its in now..it is indeed in the Run position.

Up is usually On, which the bezel shows, but the switch is marked 0 for
off in that position as shown in the photo. Sort of weird, unless that's
a pull start only generator and the 1 for really on switch just shorts
out the magneto like a kill switch.

Ayup...(Grin) pull start only and yeah...it just shorts out the mag.

Good catch!

I never remember which symbol is which.
I can only guess it's taken from binary and computer equipment where 1 is
on and 0 is off.

I checked some legit rocker switches (made by Arrow in the UK) was sort of
surprised that OFF is the top position pushed in and ON is the bottom
pushed in. This seems to be the opposite convention of toggle switches,
which I never noticed before.

Again we have people who live in the splendid isolation of the USA.


It is pretty sweet to not have to worry about car bombings, getting
kidnapped, or catching malaria, air you can see though. Clean water and
freedom of speech are pretty spiffy perks too. Other places have had had
thousands of years to get their acts together and utterly failed. No need
to copy what they're doing wrong.


We have not had a car bomb in years, very little kidnapping, NO Maleria
clean air, clean wate, freedom of speech and One TENTH the number of
firearm related deaths as the USA :-@


Actually that is the only crime rate that is higher in the US

You lads rank us nicely in Assaults, hot burglaries and other similar
crimes. And it should be noted that if one simply removes the black
gun crimes...ours is within a percentage point or so of yours.

Yet we have nearly 400 MILLION arms in our citizens hands

(Grin)

But we love you lads nontheless, helpless as you may be.

(VBG)


Top IN for OFF is common in the rest of the world.

I must agree that in this case the markings are confusing and could be
caused by using an avaiable switch to control the presumably 2 stroke
engine which just needs a closed switch in the magneto to stop the
engine.


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We have not had a car bomb in years, very little kidnapping, NO Maleria
clean air, clean wate, freedom of speech and One TENTH the number of
firearm related deaths as the USA :-@


Yeah, there they just burn cars, and bludgen or stab people to death.

Cite Please B-)

Keep in mind that your population vs. the US population matches the crime
death ratio.

Australia 0.86 per 100,000 population (2011)
USA 10.3 per 100,000 population (2011)
Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country
Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-?


Sorry Johnny..I rather thought you were English. My mistake

https://www.theobjectivestandard.com...and-the-cause/


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Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country
Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-?


"Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a
false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like
immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people.


Always have, always will.



So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and
other countries of the "Western World"


SOME other countries of the Western World

Perhaps you havent seen this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=7168


Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but thats
nothing to be proud of. B-)


https://www.theobjectivestandard.com...and-the-cause/

Perhaps we could interest you in our black prison population? It
would significantly add to your population (at least for a few years
until the bloodshed starts) and we could close over half of our
prisons

Gunner

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Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:43:33 +1100, John G wrote:

Terry Coombs submitted this idea :
John G wrote:
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh has brought this to us :
John G fired this volley in
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Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country
Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-?

"Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence".
It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent
weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available
to kill people.

Always have, always will.


So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and
other countries of the "Western World"
Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but
thats nothing to be proud of. B-)


His point is that guns aren't the only thing used to kill people and
OVERALL MURDER RATES are the proper comparison .


Even straight out Murder Rates USA is 4.7 per 100,000
While Australia is 1.1 per 100,000
So whatever he tries to say nothing justifies the USA Gun laws
supported by a bunch of Red Neck fools. :-?


Actually lad..without the guns here in the US..our homicide rates
would look like those of Honduras...and south america..where private
ownership of firearms is illegal/banned

Our firearms are used more to defend ourselves from the criminals than
the reverse.

Sure we couldnt send you say..20 million blacks? Those pesky felony
records would blend right in with the history of Oz...right?

Gunner

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John G fired this volley in
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Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country
Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-?


"Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence". It's a
false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent weapons (like
immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available to kill people.

Always have, always will.

Lloyd


Why even worry about it. Firearm homicide in the U.S. is about 1/4 the
number killed by the automobile.
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:43:33 +1100, John G wrote:

Terry Coombs submitted this idea :
John G wrote:
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh has brought this to us :
John G fired this volley in
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Deaths by Firearm PER One hundred thousand in each country
Simple math = TEN times as bad in USA :-?

"Deaths by firearm" doesn't measure deaths by "inflicted violence".
It's a false metric. Where firearms are illegal, other violent
weapons (like immolation) are used. Perps use whatever is available
to kill people.

Always have, always will.


So whats your point? USA death by firearm is 10 times Astralia and
other countries of the "Western World"
Some African and South American countries are worse thanb USA but
thats nothing to be proud of. B-)


His point is that guns aren't the only thing used to kill people and
OVERALL MURDER RATES are the proper comparison .


Even straight out Murder Rates USA is 4.7 per 100,000
While Australia is 1.1 per 100,000
So whatever he tries to say nothing justifies the USA Gun laws
supported by a bunch of Red Neck fools. :-?


Err... actually the "USA Gun Laws" are supported by the U.S.
Constitution and the amending "Bill of Rights".
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