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On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:15:33 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

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Mostly sharpening the jackhammer bits.

_I_ wonder how in hell they got a "flood" of concrete in there!

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Tim Wescott wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:15:33 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

http://usvsth3m.com/post/74285062011...-the-victoria-

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Mostly sharpening the jackhammer bits.

_I_ wonder how in hell they got a "flood" of concrete in there!

They were apparently pouring concrete nearby, and a form pushed out
and the concrete flowed where it wasn't supposed to. Somebody spent
a LOT of time installing all that neatly routed wiring, it is going
to be SOME MESS to get that cleared away and working again. I'd
imagine even taking it as an emergency project, it might take weeks
to get the station running again, and then months to get the
signals wiring put back the way it is supposed to be. And, since
it looks like signals and controls wiring, there's a public safety
aspect to fixing it so it can be trusted to not cause a train wreck,
it the completely literal sense.

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Jon Elson fired this volley in
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They were apparently pouring concrete nearby, and a form pushed out
and the concrete flowed where it wasn't supposed to.


Yeah, well. I would want to know why they didn't notice that the forms
weren't filling... SOMEBODY's ass should be on the line for that sort of
stupidity.


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Den 24-01-2014 21:30, Jon Elson skrev:
Tim Wescott wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:15:33 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

http://usvsth3m.com/post/74285062011...-the-victoria-

line-is-currently

Mostly sharpening the jackhammer bits.

_I_ wonder how in hell they got a "flood" of concrete in there!

They were apparently pouring concrete nearby, and a form pushed out
and the concrete flowed where it wasn't supposed to. Somebody spent
a LOT of time installing all that neatly routed wiring, it is going
to be SOME MESS to get that cleared away and working again. I'd
imagine even taking it as an emergency project, it might take weeks
to get the station running again, and then months to get the
signals wiring put back the way it is supposed to be. And, since
it looks like signals and controls wiring, there's a public safety
aspect to fixing it so it can be trusted to not cause a train wreck,
it the completely literal sense.


I for one would never have thought this was possible but they reopened
already:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25873252


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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:30:30 -0600, Jon Elson
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Tim Wescott wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:15:33 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

http://usvsth3m.com/post/74285062011...-the-victoria-

line-is-currently

Mostly sharpening the jackhammer bits.

_I_ wonder how in hell they got a "flood" of concrete in there!

They were apparently pouring concrete nearby, and a form pushed out
and the concrete flowed where it wasn't supposed to.


"Whaddaya mean? You think my sturdy 1/8" thick lauan form panels
weren't sufficient?"


Somebody spent
a LOT of time installing all that neatly routed wiring, it is going
to be SOME MESS to get that cleared away and working again. I'd
imagine even taking it as an emergency project, it might take weeks
to get the station running again, and then months to get the
signals wiring put back the way it is supposed to be. And, since
it looks like signals and controls wiring, there's a public safety
aspect to fixing it so it can be trusted to not cause a train wreck,
it the completely literal sense.


Were it mine, I'd force the insurance to replace it all. And I'd have
pumped loads of water in there to dilute the concrete (which would be
pumped out before it set) disregarding all electronics in the flooded
area. It's toast anyway, from liquid water, humidity, lime, and
whatever. Crete is caustic hell on electronics.

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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:53:48 +0100, Uffe Bærentsen
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Den 24-01-2014 21:30, Jon Elson skrev:
Tim Wescott wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:15:33 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

http://usvsth3m.com/post/74285062011...-the-victoria-
line-is-currently

Mostly sharpening the jackhammer bits.

_I_ wonder how in hell they got a "flood" of concrete in there!

They were apparently pouring concrete nearby, and a form pushed out
and the concrete flowed where it wasn't supposed to. Somebody spent
a LOT of time installing all that neatly routed wiring, it is going
to be SOME MESS to get that cleared away and working again. I'd
imagine even taking it as an emergency project, it might take weeks
to get the station running again, and then months to get the
signals wiring put back the way it is supposed to be. And, since
it looks like signals and controls wiring, there's a public safety
aspect to fixing it so it can be trusted to not cause a train wreck,
it the completely literal sense.


I for one would never have thought this was possible but they reopened
already:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25873252


It sounds like a rinse and check was all they did. STUPID!
Now watch all the wrecks...

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Uffe Bærentsen wrote:

Den 24-01-2014 21:30, Jon Elson skrev:
Tim Wescott wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:15:33 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

http://usvsth3m.com/post/74285062011...-the-victoria-
line-is-currently

Mostly sharpening the jackhammer bits.

_I_ wonder how in hell they got a "flood" of concrete in there!

They were apparently pouring concrete nearby, and a form pushed out
and the concrete flowed where it wasn't supposed to. Somebody spent
a LOT of time installing all that neatly routed wiring, it is going
to be SOME MESS to get that cleared away and working again. I'd
imagine even taking it as an emergency project, it might take weeks
to get the station running again, and then months to get the
signals wiring put back the way it is supposed to be. And, since
it looks like signals and controls wiring, there's a public safety
aspect to fixing it so it can be trusted to not cause a train wreck,
it the completely literal sense.


I for one would never have thought this was possible but they reopened
already:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25873252



Makes you
wonder how much safety equipment they bypassed?
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"Michael A. Terrell" on Sat, 25 Jan 2014
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Uffe Bærentsen wrote:

Den 24-01-2014 21:30, Jon Elson skrev:
Tim Wescott wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:15:33 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

http://usvsth3m.com/post/74285062011...-the-victoria-
line-is-currently

Mostly sharpening the jackhammer bits.

_I_ wonder how in hell they got a "flood" of concrete in there!

They were apparently pouring concrete nearby, and a form pushed out
and the concrete flowed where it wasn't supposed to. Somebody spent
a LOT of time installing all that neatly routed wiring, it is going
to be SOME MESS to get that cleared away and working again. I'd
imagine even taking it as an emergency project, it might take weeks
to get the station running again, and then months to get the
signals wiring put back the way it is supposed to be. And, since
it looks like signals and controls wiring, there's a public safety
aspect to fixing it so it can be trusted to not cause a train wreck,
it the completely literal sense.


I for one would never have thought this was possible but they reopened
already:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25873252



Makes you
wonder how much safety equipment they bypassed?


Or system redundancies ..
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