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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:51:27 -0700, SteveB
wrote: I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was getting out of the trucking business. Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed. What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the push/pull kinds be okay? Rotaries are better/easier. The lamentation I hear from the manual guys is that it takes a tiring half hour to tank up. For cache fuel, one would work just fine. You likely won't be in any hurry to fuel up in a dystopic future. They're tagged at 10gpm, but only if you're 6'4" and athletic buff. Buy two, they're cheap. In a dystopic future, two is one and one is zero. Or buy 4 and sell the other two for food. What kind of electrical would do it without getting a cheapie and burning it up? You'll double your investment cost if you go with an electric. Northern and HFT both have them, $99 and $129 respectively. I'm optimistic and would trust either. Would an in-line filter be a good idea? Absolutely. The cheapies come in the kits, or buy a really good one with water separator. I put a nice Racor on the diesel tow truck for an employer a couple decades ago. http://tinyurl.com/m5lvmeh or similar. They do separate the water in bad fuel, too, which you might be receiving for that price. Be safe. Get backup bung wrenches, too. -- It takes as much energy to wish as to plan. --Eleanor Roosevelt |
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SteveB wrote: I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was getting out of the trucking business. Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed. What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good idea? What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions? Steve Don't know... but think I'd start by looking at pumps & pump info on the McMaster Carr website. Erik |
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I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was
getting out of the trucking business. Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed. What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good idea? What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions? Steve |
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:32:02 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:51:27 -0700, SteveB wrote: I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was getting out of the trucking business. Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed. What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the push/pull kinds be okay? Rotaries are better/easier. The lamentation I hear from the manual guys is that it takes a tiring half hour to tank up. For cache fuel, one would work just fine. You likely won't be in any hurry to fuel up in a dystopic future. They're tagged at 10gpm, but only if you're 6'4" and athletic buff. Buy two, they're cheap. In a dystopic future, two is one and one is zero. Or buy 4 and sell the other two for food. What kind of electrical would do it without getting a cheapie and burning it up? You'll double your investment cost if you go with an electric. Northern and HFT both have them, $99 and $129 respectively. I'm optimistic and would trust either. Would an in-line filter be a good idea? Absolutely. The cheapies come in the kits, or buy a really good one with water separator. I put a nice Racor on the diesel tow truck for an employer a couple decades ago. http://tinyurl.com/m5lvmeh or similar. They do separate the water in bad fuel, too, which you might be receiving for that price. Be safe. Get backup bung wrenches, too. GoldenRod filter |
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On 2013-10-21, SteveB wrote:
I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was getting out of the trucking business. Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed. What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good idea? Yes, get a push/pull (or rotary) pump and be happy. It is not a lot of fuel and you only need so much at a time. i What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions? Steve |
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To add to this: we pump a lot of oil and fuel. Pump diesel fuel out of
trucks we sell, pump oil out of vehicles and machines, etc etc etc. 90% of time we use a pneumatic membrane pump that we have. i |
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On 22/10/2013 1:51 AM, SteveB wrote:
I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was getting out of the trucking business. Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed. What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good idea? What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions? Steve Syphon into gerry cans or 20L drums & then pour via a funnel into your vehicle? |
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Ignoramus25661 wrote:
On 2013-10-21, SteveB wrote: I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was getting out of the trucking business. Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed. What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good idea? Yes, get a push/pull (or rotary) pump and be happy. It is not a lot of fuel and you only need so much at a time. i What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions? Steve I use a manual rotary pump to pump hydraulic oil into a 5 gal pail. It takes less than a minute to fill it up. John |
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:13:12 -0500, Ignoramus25661
wrote: On 2013-10-21, SteveB wrote: I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was getting out of the trucking business. Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed. What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good idea? Yes, get a push/pull (or rotary) pump and be happy. It is not a lot of fuel and you only need so much at a time. i What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions? Steve After having used both for many years..a rotary is "easier" Gunner -- "Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand that "special" is a polite euphemism for; *window licker on the short bus*" --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:50:50 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:55:04 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:32:02 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:51:27 -0700, SteveB wrote: I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was getting out of the trucking business. Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed. What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the push/pull kinds be okay? Rotaries are better/easier. The lamentation I hear from the manual guys is that it takes a tiring half hour to tank up. For cache fuel, one would work just fine. You likely won't be in any hurry to fuel up in a dystopic future. They're tagged at 10gpm, but only if you're 6'4" and athletic buff. Buy two, they're cheap. In a dystopic future, two is one and one is zero. Or buy 4 and sell the other two for food. What kind of electrical would do it without getting a cheapie and burning it up? You'll double your investment cost if you go with an electric. Northern and HFT both have them, $99 and $129 respectively. I'm optimistic and would trust either. Would an in-line filter be a good idea? Absolutely. The cheapies come in the kits, or buy a really good one with water separator. I put a nice Racor on the diesel tow truck for an employer a couple decades ago. http://tinyurl.com/m5lvmeh or similar. They do separate the water in bad fuel, too, which you might be receiving for that price. Be safe. Get backup bung wrenches, too. GoldenRod filter http://tinyurl.com/m9ltuvm Yeah, that'd do quite nicely on the outlet of the pump. And just $40. We always had goldenrods on the tanks on the farm. |
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SteveB wrote:
I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was getting out of the trucking business. Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed. What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good idea? What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions? Only that most of the aircraft guys use Northern Supply for fuel transfer equipment. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...er-lubrication |
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