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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:51:27 -0700, SteveB
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I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was
getting out of the trucking business.

Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and
he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal
barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed.

What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for
special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the
push/pull kinds be okay?


Rotaries are better/easier. The lamentation I hear from the manual
guys is that it takes a tiring half hour to tank up. For cache fuel,
one would work just fine. You likely won't be in any hurry to fuel up
in a dystopic future. They're tagged at 10gpm, but only if you're 6'4"
and athletic buff. Buy two, they're cheap. In a dystopic future, two
is one and one is zero. Or buy 4 and sell the other two for food.


What kind of electrical would do it without
getting a cheapie and burning it up?


You'll double your investment cost if you go with an electric.
Northern and HFT both have them, $99 and $129 respectively.
I'm optimistic and would trust either.


Would an in-line filter be a good idea?


Absolutely. The cheapies come in the kits, or buy a really good one
with water separator. I put a nice Racor on the diesel tow truck for
an employer a couple decades ago. http://tinyurl.com/m5lvmeh or
similar. They do separate the water in bad fuel, too, which you might
be receiving for that price. Be safe.

Get backup bung wrenches, too.


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SteveB wrote:

I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was
getting out of the trucking business.

Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and
he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal
barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed.

What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for
special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the
push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without
getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good
idea?

What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions?

Steve


Don't know... but think I'd start by looking at pumps & pump info on the
McMaster Carr website.

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I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was
getting out of the trucking business.

Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and
he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal
barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed.

What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for
special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the
push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without
getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good
idea?

What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions?

Steve
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:32:02 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:51:27 -0700, SteveB
wrote:

I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was
getting out of the trucking business.

Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and
he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal
barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed.

What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for
special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the
push/pull kinds be okay?


Rotaries are better/easier. The lamentation I hear from the manual
guys is that it takes a tiring half hour to tank up. For cache fuel,
one would work just fine. You likely won't be in any hurry to fuel up
in a dystopic future. They're tagged at 10gpm, but only if you're 6'4"
and athletic buff. Buy two, they're cheap. In a dystopic future, two
is one and one is zero. Or buy 4 and sell the other two for food.


What kind of electrical would do it without
getting a cheapie and burning it up?


You'll double your investment cost if you go with an electric.
Northern and HFT both have them, $99 and $129 respectively.
I'm optimistic and would trust either.


Would an in-line filter be a good idea?


Absolutely. The cheapies come in the kits, or buy a really good one
with water separator. I put a nice Racor on the diesel tow truck for
an employer a couple decades ago. http://tinyurl.com/m5lvmeh or
similar. They do separate the water in bad fuel, too, which you might
be receiving for that price. Be safe.

Get backup bung wrenches, too.

GoldenRod filter
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On 2013-10-21, SteveB wrote:
I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was
getting out of the trucking business.

Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and
he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal
barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed.

What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for
special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the
push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without
getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good
idea?


Yes, get a push/pull (or rotary) pump and be happy. It is not a lot of
fuel and you only need so much at a time.

i

What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions?

Steve



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To add to this: we pump a lot of oil and fuel. Pump diesel fuel out of
trucks we sell, pump oil out of vehicles and machines, etc etc etc.

90% of time we use a pneumatic membrane pump that we have.

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On 22/10/2013 1:51 AM, SteveB wrote:
I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was
getting out of the trucking business.

Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and
he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal
barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed.

What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for
special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the
push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without
getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good
idea?

What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions?

Steve



Syphon into gerry cans or 20L drums & then pour via a funnel into your
vehicle?
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On 2013-10-21, SteveB wrote:
I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was
getting out of the trucking business.

Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and
he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal
barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed.

What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for
special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the
push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without
getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good
idea?


Yes, get a push/pull (or rotary) pump and be happy. It is not a lot of
fuel and you only need so much at a time.

i

What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions?

Steve

I use a manual rotary pump to pump hydraulic oil into a 5 gal pail. It
takes less than a minute to fill it up.

John
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:32:02 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:51:27 -0700, SteveB
wrote:

I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was
getting out of the trucking business.

Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and
he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal
barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed.

What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for
special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the
push/pull kinds be okay?


Rotaries are better/easier. The lamentation I hear from the manual
guys is that it takes a tiring half hour to tank up. For cache fuel,
one would work just fine. You likely won't be in any hurry to fuel up
in a dystopic future. They're tagged at 10gpm, but only if you're 6'4"
and athletic buff. Buy two, they're cheap. In a dystopic future, two
is one and one is zero. Or buy 4 and sell the other two for food.


What kind of electrical would do it without
getting a cheapie and burning it up?


You'll double your investment cost if you go with an electric.
Northern and HFT both have them, $99 and $129 respectively.
I'm optimistic and would trust either.


Would an in-line filter be a good idea?


Absolutely. The cheapies come in the kits, or buy a really good one
with water separator. I put a nice Racor on the diesel tow truck for
an employer a couple decades ago.
http://tinyurl.com/m5lvmeh or
similar. They do separate the water in bad fuel, too, which you might
be receiving for that price. Be safe.

Get backup bung wrenches, too.

GoldenRod filter


http://tinyurl.com/m9ltuvm Yeah, that'd do quite nicely on the outlet
of the pump. And just $40.

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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:13:12 -0500, Ignoramus25661
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On 2013-10-21, SteveB wrote:
I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was
getting out of the trucking business.

Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and
he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal
barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed.

What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for
special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the
push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without
getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a good
idea?


Yes, get a push/pull (or rotary) pump and be happy. It is not a lot of
fuel and you only need so much at a time.

i

What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions?

Steve


After having used both for many years..a rotary is "easier"

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On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:50:50 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:55:04 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:32:02 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:51:27 -0700, SteveB
wrote:

I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who was
getting out of the trucking business.

Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions, and
he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55 gal
barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge as needed.

What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future for
special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the
push/pull kinds be okay?

Rotaries are better/easier. The lamentation I hear from the manual
guys is that it takes a tiring half hour to tank up. For cache fuel,
one would work just fine. You likely won't be in any hurry to fuel up
in a dystopic future. They're tagged at 10gpm, but only if you're 6'4"
and athletic buff. Buy two, they're cheap. In a dystopic future, two
is one and one is zero. Or buy 4 and sell the other two for food.


What kind of electrical would do it without
getting a cheapie and burning it up?

You'll double your investment cost if you go with an electric.
Northern and HFT both have them, $99 and $129 respectively.
I'm optimistic and would trust either.


Would an in-line filter be a good idea?

Absolutely. The cheapies come in the kits, or buy a really good one
with water separator. I put a nice Racor on the diesel tow truck for
an employer a couple decades ago.
http://tinyurl.com/m5lvmeh or
similar. They do separate the water in bad fuel, too, which you might
be receiving for that price. Be safe.

Get backup bung wrenches, too.

GoldenRod filter


http://tinyurl.com/m9ltuvm Yeah, that'd do quite nicely on the outlet
of the pump. And just $40.

We always had goldenrods on the tanks on the farm.
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SteveB wrote:
I scored 250 gallons of diesel for $.50 per gallon from a friend who
was getting out of the trucking business.

Fresh fuel straight out of the trucks. I didn't ask any questions,
and he didn't volunteer a lot of information. Anyhoo, I got five 55
gal barrels sitting on pallets that I now need to pump into my Dodge
as needed.

What kind of pump do I need? I probably would need it in the future
for special times, but don't want to spend a lot. Would one of the
push/pull kinds be okay? What kind of electrical would do it without
getting a cheapie and burning it up? Would an in-line filter be a
good idea?

What to look for? Caveats? Suggestions?


Only that most of the aircraft guys use Northern
Supply for fuel transfer equipment.


http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...er-lubrication

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